# Cars & Coffee @ Eastern Hills Mall (NOT run by Matt)

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cars-coffee-eastern-hills-mall-not-run-by-matt/268790>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [March 28, 2014, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cars-coffee-eastern-hills-mall-not-run-by-matt/268790 "2014-03-28T08:42:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![seth13](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/seth13/32/8038_2.png) [@seth13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/seth13)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cars-coffee-eastern-hills-mall-not-run-by-matt/268790/1584 "2019-05-09T15:16:15Z")

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Matt has an in, that’s for sure. I remember seeing him last summer at an exclusive invitation only event. He runs in the right groups to make C&C a success. Unfortunately, you can’t guard against all the bullshit that comes with it being open to the public. It is just the nature of the beast.

Hilarious to me that 716 racing is going to try to host this. I can’t imagine it stays under control for long.

Also, this is going to be at the same location? How is that going to fly? Sounds like this might just be a bunch of people showing up in a parking lot without the proper involvement/ permission.

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**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cars-coffee-eastern-hills-mall-not-run-by-matt/268790/1585 "2019-05-09T15:39:45Z")

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I remember drama surrounding @DrDoS but can’t remember what it was. Something regarding getting an M3?

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**Author:** ![DrDoS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ccd318/32.png) [@DrDoS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DrDoS)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cars-coffee-eastern-hills-mall-not-run-by-matt/268790/1586 "2019-05-09T15:56:18Z")

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I am not running anything, have no association with 716 Racing or any group anymore.

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**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cars-coffee-eastern-hills-mall-not-run-by-matt/268790/1587 "2019-05-09T16:46:52Z")

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Apparently the Eastern Hills Mall is behind this and will be posting to their own Facebook shortly.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cars-coffee-eastern-hills-mall-not-run-by-matt/268790/1588 "2019-05-09T17:24:04Z")

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> [@DrDoS](#):
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> I am not running anything, have no association with 716 Racing or any group anymore.

Gotcha. Do you know who their primary point of contact is right now?

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**Author:** ![maxwell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maxwell/32/6524_2.png) [@maxwell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/maxwell)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cars-coffee-eastern-hills-mall-not-run-by-matt/268790/1589 "2019-05-09T17:26:54Z")

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I am hoping we have some locals attend so they can report back on how much of a fucking shitshow this turns out to be.

All jokes aside I hope it isn’t, but c’mon.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cars-coffee-eastern-hills-mall-not-run-by-matt/268790/1590 "2019-05-09T17:28:01Z")

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> [@yamba6](#):
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> Apparently the Eastern Hills Mall is behind this and will be posting to their own Facebook shortly.

Source?

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**Author:** ![DrDoS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ccd318/32.png) [@DrDoS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DrDoS)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cars-coffee-eastern-hills-mall-not-run-by-matt/268790/1591 "2019-05-09T17:31:27Z")

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> **[Cam Wilko](https://www.facebook.com/cam.wilkowski)**
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> Cam Wilko is on Facebook. Join Facebook to connect with Cam Wilko and others you may know. Facebook gives people the power to share and makes the world more open and connected.

Pretty sure he is the one running the event.

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**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cars-coffee-eastern-hills-mall-not-run-by-matt/268790/1592 "2019-05-09T18:24:05Z")

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![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/4/4a904df014a49ed41bf6af2ca7c489e6cc7de5f7.png)

I don’t have a problem who is running it, I just hope it gets ran correctly and I hope that its not stepping on Matt and the frame work Matt laid down.

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**Author:** ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cars-coffee-eastern-hills-mall-not-run-by-matt/268790/1593 "2019-05-09T18:29:56Z")

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This should be interesting, I will probably check it out and see how it goes. Planning on also swinging by the caffeine & octane this sat as well. Little more confident with the organization of that show.

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**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cars-coffee-eastern-hills-mall-not-run-by-matt/268790/1594 "2019-05-09T18:36:34Z")

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Hate to bring the bad news but you had me interested in this. So when I looked it up, they apparently postpone the event.  
 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/e/e0fb58c22b9061260f00c898d00f2b788d93ee19.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cars-coffee-eastern-hills-mall-not-run-by-matt/268790/1595 "2019-05-09T18:44:03Z")

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Ok well then there goes that idea.

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**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cars-coffee-eastern-hills-mall-not-run-by-matt/268790/1596 "2019-05-09T19:36:11Z")

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I’d like to see this succeed but I’m not holding my breath…unless Matt made it sound way more complicated than it needs to be, these kids seem too young/inexperienced to be able to just “keep it going” just like that.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cars-coffee-eastern-hills-mall-not-run-by-matt/268790/1597 "2019-05-09T20:15:30Z")

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> [@Motocrossx23](#):
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> I’m not holding my breath…unless Matt made it sound way more complicated

Matt @Mr_New_York did pretty well just jumping into it. These guys could too. If they have permission (assuming the mall actually did their due diligence) to advertise an event on private property then they’ve already made solid progress.

My only issue is that if exotic cars are not going to show up to a C&C branded event I’m not going to bother. It’ll just be another cruise night… errr… cruise morning.

Two things that’ll bring me out:

1. Exotic cars that I wouldn’t typically see.
2. NYSpeed members showing up and telling me it’s cool.

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**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cars-coffee-eastern-hills-mall-not-run-by-matt/268790/1598 "2019-05-09T20:17:45Z")

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This exactly.

I can see the majority of this stuff anywhere. I go for the exotics because I may see them on the streets, but this allows me to examine them up close which I would normally not have the opportunity to do.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_New\_York](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dfb087/32.png) [@Mr\_New\_York](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr_New_York)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cars-coffee-eastern-hills-mall-not-run-by-matt/268790/1599 "2019-05-09T23:01:01Z")

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I’ve been watching this unfold, and have received quite a few messages-first and foremost I am in no way affiliated with this new event. When mine ended, the door was left open and this was a possibility. While I do think a different name could have been chosen if they planned to keep it there, or vice versa this very similar name in a new location- it is what is, I can’t control it.

I don’t think complicated is the right word, nothing I did was intricate or non-repeatable; the hard part is that it just takes a lot of effort, there is no monetary or other reward for the organizer, and you accept a boatload of liability. I put it on as long as I could, and wanted to end things on a positive note before something happened following the growing trend of reckless behavior. My only words of advice to the two younger guys running it, get an LLC started ASAP and distance yourself from the liability as much as you can. Secondly, you can’t make everyone happy- be prepared to piss some people off, no decision will make everyone happy. Hopefully they have a solid plan in place, and the Buffalo car community can keep this one going in a positive direction.

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**Author:** ![joelster](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joelster/32/7258_2.png) [@joelster](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/joelster)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 12:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cars-coffee-eastern-hills-mall-not-run-by-matt/268790/1600 "2019-05-10T00:09:22Z")

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I hope it’s successful. If the new guys don’t lay down the law right away with regards to what they let in and how people behave when leaving it will get out of control fast.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cars-coffee-eastern-hills-mall-not-run-by-matt/268790/1601 "2019-05-10T13:17:04Z")

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> We would like to invite you all to WNY Cars & Coffee at the Eastern Hills Mall. We will be having the event in the parking lot in front of where Sears use to be next to Duff’s. The event will be held from 9am-12pm the 3rd Sunday of every month, the last one being in September.  
> We will be having a Coffee Vendor and a few other vendors including Executive Wraps

A few observations:

- Easter Hills doesn’t list this anywhere
- Neither does Duff’s
- Searching for “WNY Cars & Coffee” takes you to “Cars & Coffee Buffalo”
- Looks like you can only find info on FB
- They have an IG account, but only two posts
- This Tweet implies some continuity between @Mr_New_York and the new dudes… which is inaccurate:

> <https://twitter.com/ExecutiveWraps/status/1126314655679434755>

[https://www.instagram.com/p/BxOVTHEn4rn/](https://www.instagram.com/p/BxOVTHEn4rn/)

And yeah, they’re also using some other city’s C&C picture for promotion.

[https://www.instagram.com/p/BxOX-s1HbO0/](https://www.instagram.com/p/BxOX-s1HbO0/)

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cars-coffee-eastern-hills-mall-not-run-by-matt/268790/1602 "2019-05-10T14:02:36Z")

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Odds the mall really even knows this is happening?

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**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cars-coffee-eastern-hills-mall-not-run-by-matt/268790/1603 "2019-05-10T15:23:52Z")

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This is pretty much going to be an upper-middle class kid’s Southtown/Mighty Meet. Bunch of parent-bought/finance cars and eventually doing stupid shit. I guarantee it.

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