# case solved! **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [February 13, 2008, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/case-solved/43406 "2008-02-13T16:04:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![psphinx81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9a140/32.png) [@psphinx81](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psphinx81)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/case-solved/43406/1 "2008-02-13T16:04:20Z")
well as most of u know, i sold my stock turbo ~2 weeks ago to some kid in new jersey. he received it two days after i shipped it, he messaged me saying everything looked good on the turbo and he just asked me some general questions about what hotside was on it etc. well today (a WEEK later that hes had the turbo) he messages me saying the turbo manifold is cracked in three spots on the bottom in the welds :bloated: i KNOW for a fact that nothing was cracked on it before i shipped it out to him or i wouldnt even of sold it to him at all. in his message he said he would would like a refund of $150-200 for the manifold to be replaced :lol:. its so weird after he has the turbo for over a week that all of a sudden the manifold is cracked in the welds? IN THREE DIFFERENT SPOTS? what do u think i should even respond to him with? should i tell him that im NOT responsible since i know for a fact that nothing was damaged on it when i shipped it and the fact that he messaged me when he got it, saying everything was good on it. then now all of a sudden its cracked? ---
**Author:** ![Bsp\_TC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bsp_tc/32/4998_2.png) [@Bsp\_TC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bsp_TC)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/case-solved/43406/2 "2008-02-13T16:05:45Z")
did you post anywhere in the sale sold as is just in case to cover your ass…i always say sold as is even if its a brand new item im selling ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/case-solved/43406/3 "2008-02-13T16:07:22Z")
I’d respond once reminding him that he said everything was fine when he received it and telling him that any further issues regarding the matter will require court involvement. Then ignore him. What a dumbass… ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/case-solved/43406/4 "2008-02-13T16:11:21Z")
^^ pretty much the best course of action. what else can you do? there’s no point in fighting with him over it. ---
**Author:** ![articzap](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/articzap/32/7361_2.png) [@articzap](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/articzap)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/case-solved/43406/5 "2008-02-13T16:14:57Z")
You could always ask him for pictures as proof. He might just be trying to get some money from you. ---
**Author:** ![Geoff](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geoff/32/6104_2.png) [@Geoff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geoff)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/case-solved/43406/6 "2008-02-13T16:16:47Z")
> [@articzap](#): > > You could always ask him for pictures as proof. :word: I’d be interested in seeing what he’d come up with. ---
**Author:** ![psphinx81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9a140/32.png) [@psphinx81](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psphinx81)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/case-solved/43406/7 "2008-02-13T16:18:14Z")
> [@articzap](#): > > You could always ask him for pictures as proof. He might just be trying to get some money from you. he did send me pics, but i cant even tell, its like some POS cell phone pic hes not getting shit from me, it was fine when i shipped it :gotme: > [@moron](#): > > ok so today i took everything that i have so far to this shop that my friend owns to show him what i got and when he was looking at everything he noticed that the manifold is cracked on 3 different spots on the bottom side of where it bolts up to the block > > i managed to take 2 pictures of the all 3 and they didnt come out great but gives u an idea > > its cracked right at the welds > > im planning on putting everything on my car by the end of the month and this manifold is not gonna work for me man and i would like a refund for the manofild so i can buy another one, setups like this without the manifold sell for $200 so the manifold is worth about $150-200 so if u can refund me back money for the manifold that would be great and i can send u the manifold back and u can do whatever with it > > i hope we can work this out this way everyone will be happy ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/case-solved/43406/8 "2008-02-13T16:20:07Z")
Who cares? He can send you pics of it snapped in half and it won’t change the fact that he had it for a week after telling you he received it in good shape. It’s still not your problem. Don’t give him room to argue/debate. Just tell him he’s not getting any money back and to send you court papers if he wishes to pursue it. ---
**Author:** ![psphinx81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9a140/32.png) [@psphinx81](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psphinx81)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/case-solved/43406/9 "2008-02-13T16:20:42Z")
yup thats basically what i told him ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/case-solved/43406/10 "2008-02-13T16:21:31Z")
:headbang: ---
**Author:** ![articzap](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/articzap/32/7361_2.png) [@articzap](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/articzap)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/case-solved/43406/11 "2008-02-13T16:21:32Z")
It is hard to see anything in those pictures. Tell him to have it rewelded and that there is no refund. ---
**Author:** ![Violator](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/violator/32/7278_2.png) [@Violator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Violator)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/case-solved/43406/12 "2008-02-13T16:32:25Z")
Assuming that its the same manifold you sent him: Would he have installed the entire setup and run it on the car and then removed it in less then a week? probably not Could the cracks have been caused by something else like shipping or dropping it? probably not … not on a manifold. Soooo… ---
**Author:** ![nitroinsane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d26b3c/32.png) [@nitroinsane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitroinsane)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/case-solved/43406/13 "2008-02-13T16:34:10Z")
i am inthe mood to argue tell him i am your complaint department ---
**Author:** ![Locutus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/locutus/32/7574_2.png) [@Locutus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Locutus)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/case-solved/43406/14 "2008-02-13T16:51:54Z")
everyone. may i introduce to you: Fry, self proclaimed attorney at law offering legal advice since 2/13/2008 ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/case-solved/43406/15 "2008-02-13T18:40:08Z")
:thankyou: Just saying what I would do. :shrug: ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/case-solved/43406/16 "2008-02-13T19:12:41Z")
Given the history of poor quality from the company that made that manifold I would think that it is safe to say that the manifold probably cracked long ago and you didn’t notice it. Every, EVERY, manifold from that company is crap. It would be hard to believe that you would be the only person ever to recieve a good unit. The odds are stacked against you in that even the material is improper for the application. Those cracks IMO probably happened long ago. Sucks for him and you should probably come to some sort of agreement as maybe you didn’t notice it. The good thing for you is that now with that crap off your car you are really going to see a difference. Amongst other things ---
**Author:** ![psphinx81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9a140/32.png) [@psphinx81](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psphinx81)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/case-solved/43406/17 "2008-02-13T19:15:49Z")
a lot of people run those, as i was just reading another thread on it today lol. a lot of peeps dont have problems, as i didnt either. i know for a fact that it wasnt cracked before i shipped it to him. i wouldnt of even bother to ship it. he received it said everything was good on it, little over a week later its cracked… K i know a lot of people say they will crack, thats why i checked it before i even shipped it ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/case-solved/43406/18 "2008-02-13T19:18:03Z")
:gotme: You asked for an opinion, do what you got to do. ---
**Author:** ![9c1ny](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9c1ny/32/5050_2.png) [@9c1ny](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9c1ny)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/case-solved/43406/19 "2008-02-13T19:26:18Z")
better hope he didnt use paypal or all he has to do is file a “not as stated” dispute and he pretty much has you over a barrel ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2008, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/case-solved/43406/20 "2008-02-13T19:39:34Z")
> [@9c1ny](#): > > better hope he didnt use paypal or all he has to do is file a “not as stated” dispute and he pretty much has you over a barrel Really? What if you pull the funds out asap? I sent a dispute out on a dvd that was like $6 and I didn’t see shit. It was all threw paypal too. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/case-solved/43406.md?page=2)