# Casino Decision Day **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 20, 2006, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/casino-decision-day/186928 "2006-12-20T07:27:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![rmrider897](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@rmrider897](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rmrider897)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2006, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/casino-decision-day/186928/81 "2006-12-20T19:47:44Z")
> [@well i should say so...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/well-i-should-say-so/26716/3): > > that’s because its’ discount priced tickets!!! if you lower the ticket price or even offer a studen rush for steelers / pirates people will show. They have student rush sort of thing for the pirates…where have you been? Plus like chad said the tickets are soo cheap anyways. > [@Benefit for my daughter April 14th.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/benefit-for-my-daughter-april-14th/24487/70): > > what it comes down to is that we had a plan that gave us a new $260mill arena for FREE and also 100% secured our hockey team here and we denied it…real fucking smart. This definitly grinds my gears. I mean after publicly funding the two other ones and realizing it was stupid, you think they would take the opportunity to have one built at 290 NO COST to the public. > [@FS: 27" Apex TV](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-27-apex-tv/26386/10): > > Anyone here that is an expert or at least has a working knowledge of the economics of sports teams or the economics of buildings and the revenues and expenses they have, please feel free to continue this discussion. Otherwise, shut up, because you have no idea how any of it works. > > Moving right along, of the people that believe the Pens don’t need a new arena, have any of you been to other arena’s to see hockey games? I’ve been to the RBC Center in Raleigh, Nationwide Center in Columbus, and the First Union Center in Phily. They all absolutely blow the Mellon Arena out of the water in terms of amenities, seating, view (and thats tough because I think that the Arena has great sight lines), and just overall experience. > > I’ll do some research on the economic impacts of the new arenas on the teams and the local economy and be back to this thread later. I totally agree. And its not just the economic impact in the stadium but around the stadium. Anyways, I just hate politics. I mean I have been watching the news/listening about this all day. First off, the appointed all the other slots licenses first. All white peoples, then the this last group was black… Was this to please the black crowd? An interesing question posed by someone. Then you take a look at Mario, Kevin McClatchy and the Roonies (sp?). NONE of them wanted these guys to get it. None of the Local government (ravenstahl (sp?) and onorato) wanted it PITG to get it. This is sooo stupid that they got it. I just saw a vote of 1500 people on WPXI on whether they agreed with PITG gaming getting it… 16% yes 84% no fuck you gov’t They have all the out large bids over by philly also. Thats gay. I think it has to do with the governer rendell ass-clown being from philly. Then the give them to people who are out of state. So the gov’t is essentially taking PA money and making out of state businessmen rich…SO GAY. I just hope the group sticks to their word and helps rebuild the hill district including money for a new arena…because no matter what you idiots say THEY NEED A NEW ARENA…HERE ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/casino-decision-day/186928/82 "2006-12-21T06:38:06Z")
I love hearing how people justify the other 2 shitty pittsburgh teams getting new stuff and are now complaining about a 3rd shitty pittsburgh team getting a place to play. At the time, the steelers were not a good team(kinda like this year) and still got a new place. fast forward a few years and they win the superbowl. the pirates sucked balls for decades, got a new stadium, and got the right for the all star game(which is big money). Now you have an equally shitty penguin team(but with young talent and the most popular players in the league), so give them their new place and see what kind of cool stuff comes this way. I don’t really watch sports at all(but I like hockey the best) but to give 2 out of 3 pittsburgh teams new places, the third team should be pretty pissed right now. If it were me running the pens, I would tell the city of pissburgh to kiss my ass, i’m outta here. 🆒 thread ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/casino-decision-day/186928/83 "2006-12-21T06:44:50Z")
the pirates do suck. ---
**Author:** ![bics56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@bics56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bics56)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/casino-decision-day/186928/84 "2006-12-21T07:06:25Z")
Well here is one good thing for Pens fans…yesterday we are all pissed b/c we all know that decision was a joke and $$$ was involved…whatever …just have to get over it and see what our options are now. I think I posted a little while back about land being purchased in the HIll district for the new site for the new arena. I think 15 mil was spent and another 15 mil was set aside for demolition. So that is one good thing…the winner of the slots license will put 7.5 mil every year for 30 years towards a new arena…and I heard Cuban is looking into buying the pens again. So there is still some hope. ---
**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/casino-decision-day/186928/85 "2006-12-21T07:52:24Z")
cuban said he should have bought them when he had the chance. so i think he’ll pull through this time ---
**Author:** ![bics56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@bics56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bics56)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/casino-decision-day/186928/86 "2006-12-21T08:21:05Z")
> [@BlkP42E"](#): > > cuban said he should have bought them when he had the chance. so i think he’ll pull through this time I sure hope so…lets hope he wasnt talking out his ass since he thought Basilli bought the team. ---
**Author:** ![rmrider897](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@rmrider897](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rmrider897)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/casino-decision-day/186928/87 "2006-12-21T08:53:23Z")
Plus I never got a good vibe from Basilli. It seemed like he wanted to play business man. And somewhere along the line he found out he could not get his way so he pulled out. ---
**Author:** ![rmrider897](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@rmrider897](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rmrider897)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/casino-decision-day/186928/88 "2006-12-21T10:39:00Z")
from ppg > But his legislative allies – namely, Rep. Jake Wheatley and presumptive House Speaker H. William DeWeese – may have been enough to offset the concerns of the two sports franchises. Both were guests of Mr. Barden at Super Bowl XL, which was played in Detroit in February. And Mr. Barden, who is black, is also the only minority applicant in the state, which was considered an advantage because the state wanted to include minority-owned businesses in its new casino enterprise. [http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06354/747582-336.stm](http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06354/747582-336.stm) and > Penguins majority owner Mario Lemieux today said the team is no longer for sale and will explore relocating to another city while trying to negotiate a deal for a new arena in Pittsburgh. [http://www.pittsburghpostgazette.com/pg/06355/747946-100.stm](http://www.pittsburghpostgazette.com/pg/06355/747946-100.stm) ---
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/casino-decision-day/186928/89 "2006-12-21T10:43:49Z")
giving a licence to someone because they are black is racist ---
**Author:** ![Slim\_06\_F-150](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d26b3c/32.png) [@Slim\_06\_F-150](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Slim_06_F-150)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/casino-decision-day/186928/90 "2006-12-21T11:02:11Z")
> [@sick deal on sabres jerseys](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sick-deal-on-sabres-jerseys/26250/71): > > giving a licence to someone because they are black is racist X9 drillion ---
**Author:** ![bics56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@bics56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bics56)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/casino-decision-day/186928/91 "2006-12-21T11:58:28Z")
> “Let’s just say it’s beginning to look a lot like Christmas,” Brenda Tinnen, general manager of Kansas City’s new Sprint Center, told the Kansas City Star. WTF…I don’t get it why is Lemieux not selling the team anymore. I mean if he wants the Pens to remain in Pgh and lets say if Cuban or the Steelback beer guy offered to buy the Pens and keep them in Pgh then why not sell the Pens to one of them? ---
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/casino-decision-day/186928/92 "2006-12-21T12:11:54Z")
that beer guy is just lookin for free publicity for his beer. ---
**Author:** ![bics56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/47e85d/32.png) [@bics56](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bics56)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/casino-decision-day/186928/93 "2006-12-21T12:15:54Z")
> [@240sx transformation](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/240sx-transformation/26384/48): > > that beer guy is just lookin for free publicity for his beer. You mean just by saying he wants to buy the pens or if he would buy the pens? ---
**Author:** ![rmrider897](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@rmrider897](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rmrider897)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/casino-decision-day/186928/94 "2006-12-21T12:26:22Z")
> [@American Idol LOL](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/american-idol-lol/26749/18): > > You mean just by saying he wants to buy the pens or if he would buy the pens? This situation is a symbol for the downfall of pittsburgh ---
**Author:** ![Nick2517](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@Nick2517](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nick2517)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/casino-decision-day/186928/95 "2006-12-21T12:49:29Z")
[http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;\_ylt=AsgLE\_gPzId\_TsOWnTGDSfQ5nYcB?slug=ap-penguins-future&prov=ap&type=lgns](http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=AsgLE_gPzId_TsOWnTGDSfQ5nYcB?slug=ap-penguins-future&prov=ap&type=lgns) FUCK MARIO ---
**Author:** ![dgramc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dgramc/32/5934_2.png) [@dgramc](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dgramc)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/casino-decision-day/186928/96 "2006-12-21T12:56:50Z")
you cant say fuck mario, you gotta say fuck the gaming committee they told him to find a way to fund a new arena. He did. and was also bringing in an additional 700 million dollars for the city. They turned it down. He has been trying to a long ass time trying to keep them here and the gov’t just isnt helping. ---
**Author:** ![rmrider897](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@rmrider897](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rmrider897)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/casino-decision-day/186928/97 "2006-12-21T12:57:19Z")
> [@Get Caged at PMP - New Fox body pics!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/get-caged-at-pmp-new-fox-body-pics/26744/8): > > [http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;\_ylt=AsgLE\_gPzId\_TsOWnTGDSfQ5nYcB?slug=ap-penguins-future&prov=ap&type=lgns](http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=AsgLE_gPzId_TsOWnTGDSfQ5nYcB?slug=ap-penguins-future&prov=ap&type=lgns) > > FUCK MARIO He has been working his ass off for the past 7 years trying to get a new arena but rendell and those philly pricks keep holding him back ---
**Author:** ![Nick2517](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@Nick2517](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nick2517)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/casino-decision-day/186928/98 "2006-12-21T12:57:58Z")
yea i love how the Pirates who have been rebuilding for 15 years get a new stadium but the pensguins who hav 2 if not 3 of the brightest stars in the game get shit on ---
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/casino-decision-day/186928/99 "2006-12-21T13:08:10Z")
> [@did you know there's a craigslist in TJ?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/did-you-know-theres-a-craigslist-in-tj/26753/4): > > yea i love how the Pirates who have been rebuilding for 15 years get a new stadium but the pensguins who hav 2 if not 3 of the brightest stars in the game get shit on because overall more people nationally care about baseball than hockey, baseball brings in more money. team performance has little to do with it. i would love if people would stop crying about the pirates when its rooney is the one who made out like a fuckin bandit… i’mma get the tax payers to buy me a stadium then i;m gonna make then fork up money for a seat licence to keep their season tickets… ---
**Author:** ![Hycomp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Hycomp](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hycomp)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/casino-decision-day/186928/100 "2006-12-21T13:11:07Z")
It’s about time Mario openly states they are exploring relocating options. Perhaps this will finally get some asses in gear. Mario has shown more loyalty to Pittsburgh than quite possibly any sports star ever has. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/casino-decision-day/186928.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/casino-decision-day/186928.md?page=6)