# cast or forged?

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cast-or-forged/20013>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [November 10, 2006, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cast-or-forged/20013 "2006-11-10T15:05:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cast-or-forged/20013/21 "2006-11-10T21:11:23Z")

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> [@MikeRi24](#):
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> first place i went was the bank to pay the truck off

:tup:

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cast-or-forged/20013/22 "2006-11-10T21:19:40Z")

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> [@MikeRi24](#):
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> i just recieved the money today. i didnt even find out i was getting it untill last night. first place i went was the bank to pay the truck off because my payment is due on tuesday. the bank was closed today, but i will be going there first thing monday to pay the ballance of my loan off.

fantastic move. This has to be the best post that You’ve ever made on here. :tup:

Now, refer to the rest of the thread. 🙂

Oh… and for shits & giggles, I spent 90 seconds looking through Your recent threads:

> [@Slopoke](#):
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> your 8cyls beat my 3:mamoru: damn…to my layzie cyl#4 with all 30 psi:rant:

> [@MikeRi24](#):
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> i more ot less wanted it so i could make it louder ‘on demand.’ call me a ricer.

> [@MikeRi24](#):
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> i am very confident i could take the [NA]cobalt from a dig.

> [@MikeRi24](#):
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> theres an embarassing video of me racing redssna (NA cobalt SS) where i got beat… i still cant believe i got taken by a NA Cobalt.

> [@MikeRi24](#):
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> all BS aside, i’ve basically come to the conclusion of this: i just plain and simple dont want this anymore. It will always have a special place in my heart, but its just not what i want right now and for me its time to move on.

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**Author:** ![Shrives](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shrives/32/7250_2.png) [@Shrives](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shrives)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cast-or-forged/20013/23 "2006-11-10T21:29:47Z")

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lol owned

dude i think i can safely say that there is somebody worse than me with decision making… i just dont make 1435423323 threads about every idea

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**Author:** ![MikeRi24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@MikeRi24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MikeRi24)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cast-or-forged/20013/24 "2006-11-10T21:36:01Z")

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yeah, im done. whip out the ban stick. go for it. bye bye NYSpeed.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Twinkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d07c76/32.png) [@Mr.Twinkie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr.Twinkie)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cast-or-forged/20013/25 "2006-11-10T21:46:11Z")

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Man o Man:biglol:

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**Author:** ![Shrives](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shrives/32/7250_2.png) [@Shrives](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shrives)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cast-or-forged/20013/26 "2006-11-10T21:47:27Z")

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wtf? do you want a tissue?

no one said anything about banning you?

like you said, its your truck, so who gives a fuck what you do with it. If you want to dump 5k on it, who cares right? But you are asking a bunch of questions/opinions about your plans on a public forum, where everyone and anyone will voice their opinion about it, good or bad. Dont get all pissy about the responses people are giving. Fuck i dump so much time and a decent amount into my Vw’s and i think its funny how much hate their is for them. I love the cars, and i love working on them. Thats how you are with your truck, so rock on with whatever you want to do. Not everyone drives a civic/mustang/transmarobird

:headbang: :headbang:

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**Author:** ![anniversaryss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d07c76/32.png) [@anniversaryss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/anniversaryss)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cast-or-forged/20013/27 "2006-11-10T21:49:43Z")

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u guys are brutal lol

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**Author:** ![Mr.Twinkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d07c76/32.png) [@Mr.Twinkie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr.Twinkie)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cast-or-forged/20013/28 "2006-11-10T22:00:49Z")

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He did have it coming tho lol :mamoru:

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**Author:** ![BDR5oh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bdr5oh/32/7315_2.png) [@BDR5oh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BDR5oh)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cast-or-forged/20013/29 "2006-11-10T22:25:40Z")

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OK … this is gonna be my last post with this kid …

the ONLY good way to spend your baller dough on that truck is a STANDALONE … THATS IT … dont buy anything else …

trust me … you’ll regret it if you do buy anything else

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**Author:** ![ImportMuscle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/importmuscle/32/7615_2.png) [@ImportMuscle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ImportMuscle)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cast-or-forged/20013/30 "2006-11-10T23:14:10Z")

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Mike. Listen to this man^^ if your really dead set on going with the mopar 360, than do it. Its your vehicle, its your money.

But have a plan

Dont decide to do a stroker crank, than a drop kit, than a cam

Priorities. My good man, Motor first, than exhaust, than body than interior. Or whatever order you want to do em

And if its one thing ive learned about Nyspeed/Ubrf. dont ask about trucks/truck motors, very few people will know the answer. And the 2% of people here who do know the answer, are almost always 99% right

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**Author:** ![Justin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justin/32/7459_2.png) [@Justin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Justin)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cast-or-forged/20013/31 "2006-11-11T09:08:07Z")

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> [@94wvwglxvr6](#):
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> your truck is ugly.

^ This is unnecessary.  
Although everyone else in this thread might be arguing with Mike at least they are attempting some constructive criticism in their opinions.  
And to Mike, if you really plan to do everything you told me you are going to, don’t chance it and go forged.

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**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cast-or-forged/20013/32 "2006-11-11T09:28:40Z")

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You need a plan for sure. But having a **“** performance **”** truck as your fun/project car shouldnt be on it.

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**Author:** ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cast-or-forged/20013/33 "2006-11-11T09:45:34Z")

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> [@01AudiS4](#):
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> And to Mike, if you really plan to do everything you told me you are going to, don’t chance it and go forged.

You know that plans don’t break parts, right?

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**Author:** ![MikeRi24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@MikeRi24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MikeRi24)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cast-or-forged/20013/34 "2006-11-11T11:07:37Z")

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ok, just to clear things up:

i DO have a plan, and that is (in this order):

-finsih off the exhaust with the high flow cat and bigger downpipes and cutouts (contrary to popular belief, people on the Dakota forums actually say the cutouts DO help with a cammed motor. wont do much for my un-cammed 360, but this is, again, in preparation for the 408, which will be cammed, obviously)  
-408 motor (i plan on getting a short block from a junkyard, stripping it, having it machined, and then wokring on building it up a little at a time). i will then be able to keep my motor in and just drive it while the buildup happens, and then i’ll have a perfectly good spare 360 after the fact, should i ever need it  
-replace the transmission with a stronger one built to handle more power (already have the research on that done, have the builder sourced, and have most of the money set aside for it, just waiting for mine to check out for good). the transmission will blow before the 408 is ready to be dropped in, so when the 408 does go in, the rest of the drivetrain will be able to handle it (rear ends in these can hold a lot of power, so it should be good to go for now)  
-FAST stand alone (i am well aware of the fact that the stock computer aint gonna do shit with any mods, and how crututial stand alones are) and then have it tuned. right now, there is only one company on the market making stand alones for my truck, however word on the street (or on the boards, should i say), is that someone else is coming out with a new system that is better and will be cheaper, and easier to tune, so im kind of playing the waiting gome on this one.  
-MAYBE go with FI somtime in the very distant future. people with similair 408 setups are putting down pretty decent numbers, and id like to see what that ‘feels like’ befefore i make my decision about FI. even if i did, this would be years down the road, like as in after i am out of college and have a staeady income to where i have some extra money to toy around with.  
-same thing applies with my idea to swap in a Durango R/T AWD system. if SOMEDAY i have the money, i’ll do it.  
-kinda lost the desire to lower it, but next time i need new shocks i’ll deffinately go with something thats better than OEM. same thing with the brakes.

is this whole thing gonna cost a lot of money? hell yes. dollar for dollar is it worth it? no way. am i going to end up with something thats different than most other people, and have it be decently quick? yes.when its all done, am i going to be happy with what i have and all of the work and money i put ito it? you better believe it. this whole build is not going to happen overnight, and the only reason im getting the parts now is because i have the money and i found an overstock deal on them, and the price is right.

o and by the way, as per people on the Dakota forums, the cast steel crank is good for ~600 hp. im not gonna be anywhere close to that unless boost it, and even then then i would be lukcy if i got into the upper 500s. i also have no intentions to ever spray it. if it ever comes to the point where i need a stronger crank, then i’ll pull the motor again and put a forged crank in it and put new bearings and everything in the bottom end. cant hurt anything.

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**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cast-or-forged/20013/35 "2006-11-11T11:51:13Z")

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I DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE FUCK A PART CAN BE RATED TO STAND UP TO A CERTAIN HP, there are way to many fucking variables that have to be taken into account if the god damn part will survive. /rant

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**Author:** ![neonglh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neonglh/32/4951_2.png) [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cast-or-forged/20013/36 "2006-11-11T12:44:52Z")

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> [@MikeRi24](#):
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> im not gonna be anywhere close to that unless boost it, and even then then i would be lukcy if i got into the upper 500s. i also have no intentions to ever spray it.

> [@MikeRi24](#):
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> i have no intentions of running more than like 500 hp EVER no matter what i do

:tup:

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**Author:** ![anniversaryss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d07c76/32.png) [@anniversaryss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/anniversaryss)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cast-or-forged/20013/37 "2006-11-11T12:48:16Z")

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y not spray it even a small shot , i didnt read ur whole list of things u had planned, but even a mildly build motor should have no problem handling 100-150 shot

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**Author:** ![MikeRi24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@MikeRi24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MikeRi24)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cast-or-forged/20013/38 "2006-11-11T12:55:34Z")

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[QUOTE=neonglh][/QUOTE]

i COULD run upper 500 hp numbers if i superchared, stoked AND sprayed. sorry if i was not clear about that.

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**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cast-or-forged/20013/39 "2006-11-11T13:14:15Z")

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but its still ugly

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**Author:** ![Justin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justin/32/7459_2.png) [@Justin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Justin)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cast-or-forged/20013/40 "2006-11-11T13:16:53Z")

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> [@94wvwglxvr6](#):
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> but its still ugly

Why do you bother posting things like this??? All it does is degrade people. He is asking about his crank, not if you like how his truck looks or not.

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