# Cell Phone Discussion
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cell-phone-discussion/1414018
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [July 27, 2020, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cell-phone-discussion/1414018 "2020-07-27T17:33:25Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2020, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cell-phone-discussion/1414018/1 "2020-07-27T17:33:25Z")
gents,
i’m currently still using a Blackberry Key2 and intend on getting another one to replace it.
however, i’m curious what is out there for non-mainstream phones?
is there anything out there that still has a removable battery? anything else with a proper qwerty keyboard?
or… are we stuck with ios / android / CCP ?
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### Author:  [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2020, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cell-phone-discussion/1414018/2 "2020-07-27T22:17:05Z")
At this point you’re nearly 10 years behind learning how to effectively type on a phone screen.
I’m waiting for either the next Nokia 9 Series or the Microsoft Surface Duo.
Looks like the Key2 is end of life and you’ll be at risk using it;
> The last Android security patch for the Key2 and Key2 LE will be issued in May 2020 and Aug. 2020, respectively. After that, the phones will stop receiving software updates.
> **[TCL will stop selling BlackBerry smartphones in August](https://www.zdnet.com/article/tcl-will-stop-selling-and-producing-blackberry-smartphones-in-august/)**
>
> This could be the end of BlackBerry phones.
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### Author:  [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2020, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cell-phone-discussion/1414018/3 "2020-07-28T02:52:56Z")
Just get an iPhone, give it 3 months, and you’ll never look back.
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### Author:  [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2020, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cell-phone-discussion/1414018/4 "2020-07-28T12:30:25Z")
I do love my iphone. Super user friendly. I had a galaxy at my old job and always used my iphone instead of the company phone. I felt like on the android i was using a desktop computer.
I got the new SE. 400$, it’s awesome. I had my last SE for almost 5 years.
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### Author:  [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2020, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cell-phone-discussion/1414018/5 "2020-07-28T12:57:26Z")
I’ve had a bunch of iPhones (3g, 4, 5, 7, 8+ and Xr) as well as a Galaxy S3 (both stock and several different roms) and will probably never buy another Android phone. I write apps for both iOS and Android so I still use both OS’s regularly and I just prefer iOS’s stability and the fact that every Apple phone I’ve had has still been rock solid and getting day 1 updates after 2+ years.
If you want to go Android make sure you get one that runs stock Android, not some bastardized flavor of Android that was modded by the manufacturer or carrier. A year into ownership the non-stock Android OS will be all but abandoned by the carrier/manufacturer and you’ll be left with an insecure OS for months while you wait for the carrier/manufacturer to port Android’s latest OS over to their bastard OS.
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### Author:  [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2020, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cell-phone-discussion/1414018/6 "2020-07-28T16:20:35Z")
so you guys are saying that there are no viable alternatives?
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### Author:  [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2020, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cell-phone-discussion/1414018/7 "2020-07-28T17:09:08Z")
> [@bing](#):
>
> so you guys are saying that there are no viable alternatives?
Android is at 51.5% market share in the US to iOS 42.4%. That means EVERYTHING else accounts for just 6.1% of the market. So no, there are no viable alternatives or there would be more than 6.1% of people using them.
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### Author:  [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2020, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cell-phone-discussion/1414018/8 "2020-07-28T20:26:50Z")
This is literally the one phone left that’s not end of life and that has a keyboard:
> **[Home - F(x)tec](https://www.fxtec.com/)**
>
> Established in London in 2018, F(x)tec is led by an experienced team of mobile device, telecommunications, and retail entrepreneurs and visionaries. Privately funded, the company is committed to developing and refining mobile phones and related...
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### Author:  [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2020, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cell-phone-discussion/1414018/9 "2020-07-28T20:41:44Z")
frig.
i am seriously considering going back to my old BB Bold 9900 for email/text/phone and maybe having a second device for browising etc.
i ordered a new $2k Thinkpad a couple months ago, i get the thing and it has fewer USB ports than my old one, no SD card drive and no removable battery.
the future is worse.
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### Author:  [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2020, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cell-phone-discussion/1414018/10 "2020-07-28T20:56:45Z")
Everything is cloud based now. Why do you need USB ports?
Also you likely can’t use your old BB anymore because of 5G. All the spectrum from 2G and 3G is being reapportioned to 5G. Your old phone doesn’t have the hardware radio to be able to run on the changing networks, at least in the US.
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### Author:  [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2020, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cell-phone-discussion/1414018/11 "2020-07-29T18:07:32Z")
I bought the new S20 Ultra and it was a great investment. The camera alone makes this pocket computer worth it.
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### Author:  [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cell-phone-discussion/1414018/12 "2020-08-19T20:39:21Z")
Well lookie here
> **[A new 5G BlackBerry phone with Android and a physical keyboard will arrive in...](https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/8/19/21375026/5g-blackberry-phone-android-physical-keyboard-2021-release-date)**
>
> The BlackBerry brand rides once more.
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### Author:  [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2020, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cell-phone-discussion/1414018/13 "2020-08-19T21:38:12Z")
that just made my day
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### Author:  [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)
#### Post date: [August 20, 2020, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cell-phone-discussion/1414018/14 "2020-08-20T01:43:48Z")
Son of a…
I literally just came here to post that link.
Could have saved 40 seconds of life if I checked this thread last time I logged in. Or, did not choose to reply 🙂
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### Author:  [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [August 20, 2020, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cell-phone-discussion/1414018/15 "2020-08-20T12:40:42Z")
So the phones won’t be “Canadian” anymore, but licensed to a US firm. That’s similar to Nokia being licensed to HMD. And they will be “mid range” in features, but who cares. As long as it has 5G you’ll be good.
I decided I can’t get the Duo due to how long I keep phones and the lack of 5G. So now I’m waiting on the next Nokia 9.
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### Author:  [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [July 25, 2021, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cell-phone-discussion/1414018/16 "2021-07-25T01:27:07Z")
Another option @bing
> **[Titan Pocket – The Smallest QWERTY Android 11 Smartphone](https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jellyphone/titan-pocket-the-smallest-qwerty-android-11-smartphone)**
>
> Remember the good old times when phones are small and QWERTY? All revived in one Titan Pocket.
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### Author:  [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)
#### Post date: [July 25, 2021, 4:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cell-phone-discussion/1414018/17 "2021-07-25T04:09:06Z")
I signed up for the mailing list for the onward mobile phone and I’ve even reached out to them by email and over Facebook.
Still no release date.
I am crestfallen.
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### Author:  [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [July 25, 2021, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cell-phone-discussion/1414018/18 "2021-07-25T13:30:09Z")
That swiping on the Titan’s keyboard is pretty neat though. For $300 it might be worth just getting for the hell of it.
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### Author:  [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2021, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cell-phone-discussion/1414018/19 "2021-07-27T10:13:07Z")
> [@bing](#):
>
> the mailing list
Was it this one?
[https://www.onwardmobility.com/waitlist/](https://www.onwardmobility.com/waitlist/)
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### Author:  [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2021, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cell-phone-discussion/1414018/20 "2021-07-27T16:40:36Z")
yes but it was earlier and not that specific one. i’ll join that one now 🙂
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