# Changing clutch in my sti...HELP!! **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [February 2, 2007, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/changing-clutch-in-my-sti-help/23977 "2007-02-02T16:53:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![VANDIT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vandit/32/4977_2.png) [@VANDIT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/VANDIT)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2007, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/changing-clutch-in-my-sti-help/23977/21 "2007-02-06T17:05:05Z")
sorry for making fun of your skills andy. =) ---
**Author:** ![VANDIT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vandit/32/4977_2.png) [@VANDIT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/VANDIT)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2007, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/changing-clutch-in-my-sti-help/23977/22 "2007-02-06T17:05:39Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > roffle… newbs. The guy has probably turned more wrenches just on his autocross car than you ever have. ha, no… doubt that ---
**Author:** ![MHill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea5d25/32.png) [@MHill](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MHill)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2007, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/changing-clutch-in-my-sti-help/23977/23 "2007-02-06T18:49:57Z")
> [@nitroinsane](#): > > um the left and right axles are the same length? Yes, hence “symmetrical all wheel drive”. The engine is in front on the transmission, and the trans is directly inline with the rear differeential. I know, a hard concept to grasp for those who have only worked on modern cars. But this CRAZY idea of symmetry in a drivetrain is not unique to subaru. ---
**Author:** ![MHill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea5d25/32.png) [@MHill](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MHill)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2007, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/changing-clutch-in-my-sti-help/23977/24 "2007-02-06T18:54:12Z")
> [@Carnut](#): > > The STi doesn’t have a roll pin holding that axles on. They slide into the diff like most transmissions. The WRX however does. Is this a ver. 7+ thing I could have sworn all the axles I changed had a retainer, or am I using the wrong terminology? Im thinking of the ring with a break in it seated in the splines of the shaft. Is a roll pin something else? ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2007, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/changing-clutch-in-my-sti-help/23977/25 "2007-02-06T19:18:45Z")
As far as I know john didn’t have an STi tranmission at that time, all of the STi’s I have worked on have axles that slip out as opposed to roll pins like the standard WRX ---
**Author:** ![MHill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea5d25/32.png) [@MHill](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MHill)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2007, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/changing-clutch-in-my-sti-help/23977/26 "2007-02-06T19:22:13Z")
> [@Carnut](#): > > As far as I know john didn’t have an STi tranmission at that time. Well i know for sure the rear axles have retainer rings. And Ive only changed a couple fronts on his car but I believe one was on the dog box and the other was the 6speed USDM synchro boxarooo, and they used the same axles. But what do i know. It’s been a while since I’ve gotten that deep into a Subaru so i could be wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Carnut](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carnut/32/7590_2.png) [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2007, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/changing-clutch-in-my-sti-help/23977/27 "2007-02-06T19:41:28Z")
oops didn’t see this post, i edited my last one. ---
**Author:** ![ly555is](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3bc359/32.png) [@ly555is](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ly555is)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2007, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/changing-clutch-in-my-sti-help/23977/28 "2007-02-06T21:35:02Z")
> [@VANDIT](#): > > sorry for making fun of your skills andy. > > =) sometimes it takes 33 mins to admit such a thing. props, man - a lot of people wouldn’t do that. good luck with the clutch job from here :tup: ---
**Author:** ![99\_civic\_si](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99_civic_si/32/7319_2.png) [@99\_civic\_si](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99_civic_si)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 5:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/changing-clutch-in-my-sti-help/23977/29 "2007-02-07T05:20:41Z")
Sometimes we all don’t give credit where it’s due perhaps and jump to conclusions. [http://www.nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?p=448671#post448671](http://www.nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?p=448671#post448671) It’s all good man. I don’t know a 1/4 of the people on this forum and what they are capable of. ---
**Author:** ![VANDIT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vandit/32/4977_2.png) [@VANDIT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/VANDIT)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/changing-clutch-in-my-sti-help/23977/30 "2007-02-07T15:08:06Z")
cool… ---
**Author:** ![SI01](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/si01/32/7187_2.png) [@SI01](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SI01)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2007, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/changing-clutch-in-my-sti-help/23977/31 "2007-02-10T23:16:51Z")
> [@MHill](#): > > Yes, hence “symmetrical all wheel drive”. The engine is in front on the transmission, and the trans is directly inline with the rear differeential. I know, a hard concept to grasp for those who have only worked on modern cars. But this CRAZY idea of symmetry in a drivetrain is not unique to subaru. That’s not why they call it symmetrical all wheel drive. Subaru has always used that engine/trans layout, even before all their cars became AWD. Based on this comment, and your vast wisdom on the WRX TR in another thread recently, you might be well served to spend some time on the Subaru website. Please compile a list of all the other cars with the same layout Subaru uses. I’d love to find out. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/changing-clutch-in-my-sti-help/23977.md?page=1)