# cheap internet / cable **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [September 27, 2007, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-internet-cable/192686 "2007-09-27T12:48:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![xlogic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/59ef9b/32.png) [@xlogic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/xlogic)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-internet-cable/192686/21 "2007-10-11T09:51:01Z")
> [@psychopjv\>Some tool in a Z28](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/psychopjv-some-tool-in-a-z28/32876/56): > > I understand what you are saying. I think I like your idea of just putting the router in the basement and running a LAN cable up through the floor for the 360. Thanks for the help! No problem! šŸ˜ƒ > [@Fruck you to the blue Impala](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fruck-you-to-the-blue-impala/32952/21): > > I canā€™t get it yet, but I will try it out once itā€™s available. You and me both, youā€™ll never go back to what you had before ---
**Author:** ![jph102900](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jph102900/32/6049_2.png) [@jph102900](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jph102900)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-internet-cable/192686/22 "2007-10-11T09:51:59Z")
> [@Fruck you to the blue Impala](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fruck-you-to-the-blue-impala/32952/21): > > I canā€™t get it yet, but I will try it out once itā€™s available. Same here. I am waiting for Verizon to install FIOS in our townhouse community. As of now it is scheduled for the spring. I am really looking forward to it, I have been wanting FIOS since my parents got it in their neighborhood last year. ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-internet-cable/192686/23 "2007-10-11T09:55:08Z")
> [@garage sale items](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/garage-sale-items/32746/18): > > No problem! šŸ˜ƒ > > You and me both, youā€™ll never go back to what you had before I had dialup, then got dsl. That was a huge step up in speed. then I got cable and that was a very big step up from dsl. I hope fios is as good as I hear it is. I normally get ~500k down and regurally see over 1mb down(in actual download speed) so I am quite happy with my cable right now. What speeds are people getting with fios? ---
**Author:** ![xlogic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/59ef9b/32.png) [@xlogic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/xlogic)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-internet-cable/192686/24 "2007-10-11T10:00:12Z")
> [@How does one measure wealth](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-does-one-measure-wealth/32801/67): > > I had dialup, then got dsl. That was a huge step up in speed. then I got cable and that was a very big step up from dsl. I hope fios is as good as I hear it is. > > I normally get ~500k down and regurally see over 1mb down(in actual download speed) so I am quite happy with my cable right now. What speeds are people getting with fios? Where do you see those speeds at? From websites or peer2peer sharing? just to give you an idea verizons highest fios package at the moment is actually twice that, 30mb down those are right at the advertised speeds so hopefully anyone who upgrades isnā€™t using an older computer that could barely handle xp ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-internet-cable/192686/25 "2007-10-11T10:04:10Z")
> [@Fruck you to the blue Impala](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fruck-you-to-the-blue-impala/32952/25): > > Where do you see those speeds at? From websites or peer2peer sharing? > just to give you an idea > those are right at the advertised speeds so hopefully anyone who upgrades isnā€™t using an older computer that could barely handle xp just downloading files from websites. I am not a fan of speedtests though, comcast has this speedboost or some shit that ups the speed at first then goes down thru the download. Speedtests are fairly inaccurate with these, but I will try one when I get home from work. I usually download xp service pack 2 from microsoft to determine how fast my internet is. Their servers are fast and consistent, I am normally over 1mb down from their thru the whole download. ---
**Author:** ![xlogic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/59ef9b/32.png) [@xlogic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/xlogic)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-internet-cable/192686/26 "2007-10-11T10:07:43Z")
> [@holy fire suppressants v. noco @ parker](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/holy-fire-suppressants-v-noco-parker/32887/22): > > I usually download xp service pack 2 from microsoft to determine how fast my internet is. Their servers are fast and consistent, I am normally over 1mb down from their thru the whole download. thats not a bad way to benchmark top speed especially since there are so many inconsistencies throughout the interweb. i like [http://www.speedtest.net](http://www.speedtest.net) it seems to be pretty good at getting the actual speed no matter which connection your using ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-internet-cable/192686/27 "2007-10-11T10:15:17Z")
comcast and fios are a trade offā€¦ once fios gets the user base and saturation (tv, phone, internet) of the users like comcast, itā€™ll level offā€¦ iā€™m sorry but fiber has latency and limits just like anything elseā€¦ do people honestly think that comcast runs coaxle from their distribution blocks? reallyā€¦ fios terminates the fiber in your house, comcast terminates it at the poleā€¦ :gives: ibfiosemployeestellmeimwrong ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-internet-cable/192686/28 "2007-10-11T10:20:20Z")
> [@psychopjv\>Some tool in a Z28](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/psychopjv-some-tool-in-a-z28/32876/57): > > comcast and fios are a trade offā€¦ once fios gets the user base and saturation (tv, phone, internet) of the users like comcast, itā€™ll level offā€¦ iā€™m sorry but fiber has latency and limits just like anything elseā€¦ do people honestly think that comcast runs coaxle from their distribution blocks? reallyā€¦ fios terminates the fiber in your house, comcast terminates it at the poleā€¦ :gives: > > ibfiosemployeestellmeimwrong I agree so basically, do you want to sit on hold with verizon or comcast? ---
**Author:** ![xlogic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/59ef9b/32.png) [@xlogic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/xlogic)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-internet-cable/192686/29 "2007-10-11T10:25:15Z")
> [@psychopjv\>Some tool in a Z28](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/psychopjv-some-tool-in-a-z28/32876/57): > > comcast and fios are a trade offā€¦ once fios gets the user base and saturation (tv, phone, internet) of the users like comcast, itā€™ll level offā€¦ iā€™m sorry but fiber has latency and limits just like anything elseā€¦ do people honestly think that comcast runs coaxle from their distribution blocks? reallyā€¦ fios terminates the fiber in your house, comcast terminates it at the poleā€¦ :gives: > > ibfiosemployeestellmeimwrong good job on stating the obvious, itā€™s marketing that plays a key in this, verizon made the jump first and obviously comcast isnā€™t doing something right being stuck at 8 mbā€™s where as fios is running at 30 ā€œibfiosemployeestellmeimwrongā€ i donā€™t work for verizon anymore nor do i have the ā€œall knowingā€ mentality that you seem to carry ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-internet-cable/192686/30 "2007-10-11T10:29:47Z")
> [@FS : Fox Body Mustang Body Panels](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-fox-body-mustang-body-panels/32839/10): > > good job on stating the obvious, itā€™s marketing that plays a key in this, verizon made the jump first and obviously comcast isnā€™t doing something right being stuck at 8 mbā€™s where as fios is running at 30 > > ā€œibfiosemployeestellmeimwrongā€ i donā€™t work for verizon anymore nor do i have the ā€œall knowingā€ mentality that you seem to carry I canā€™t even max out a cable connection at 8mb, what is the extra 22mb going to do? ---
**Author:** ![xlogic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/59ef9b/32.png) [@xlogic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/xlogic)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-internet-cable/192686/31 "2007-10-11T10:32:32Z")
> [@Who wants to race the R1?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-wants-to-race-the-r1/32719/57): > > I canā€™t even max out a cable connection at 8mb, what is the extra 22mb going to do? there is always going to be a bottleneck somewhere, unless you live in koreaā€¦ but itā€™s marketing, just them saying ā€œiā€™m faster than the next guyā€ FIOS will be really great all around as soon as the voice and television services hit with it, if i remember the specs correctly it was 32 television customers 32 internet customers 128 voice customers per fiber optic strand ---
**Author:** ![4doors5gears](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/4doors5gears/32/6006_2.png) [@4doors5gears](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/4doors5gears)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-internet-cable/192686/32 "2007-10-11T11:05:40Z")
> [@psychopjv\>Some tool in a Z28](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/psychopjv-some-tool-in-a-z28/32876/57): > > comcast and fios are a trade offā€¦ once fios gets the user base and saturation (tv, phone, internet) of the users like comcast, itā€™ll level offā€¦ iā€™m sorry but fiber has latency and limits just like anything elseā€¦ do people honestly think that comcast runs coaxle from their distribution blocks? reallyā€¦ fios terminates the fiber in your house, comcast terminates it at the poleā€¦ :gives: > > ibfiosemployeestellmeimwrong Thank you for explaining it so I didnā€™t have to. ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-internet-cable/192686/33 "2007-10-11T11:28:33Z")
> [@FS : Fox Body Mustang Body Panels](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-fox-body-mustang-body-panels/32839/10): > > good job on stating the obvious, itā€™s marketing that plays a key in this, verizon made the jump first and obviously comcast isnā€™t doing something right being stuck at 8 mbā€™s where as fios is running at 30 > > ā€œibfiosemployeestellmeimwrongā€ i donā€™t work for verizon anymore nor do i have the ā€œall knowingā€ mentality that you seem to carry what marketingā€¦ FIOS was a new product in the market that was a monopoly (discounting DSL for arguments sake, referring to highspeed cable interweb)ā€¦ also, deflate your headā€¦ anything you say will never play a role in my lifeā€¦ there are REAL fios employeesā€¦ not cell phone jockies, but guys that install the stuffā€¦ i was referring to themā€¦ you know, people that have actual knowledge of the technology. ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-internet-cable/192686/34 "2007-10-11T12:04:24Z")
> [@Fruck you to the blue Impala](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fruck-you-to-the-blue-impala/32952/28): > > Thank you for explaining it so I didnā€™t have to. itā€™s coolā€¦ itā€™s way more in depth than that, but thatsā€™ my takeā€¦ the inherent value of FIOS is that itā€™s a switched technology, coax is simply a shared lineā€¦ the segmentation allows FIOS to be predictable and granular in itā€™s serviceā€¦ then again, there are issues with that, the limitations of the fiber is quoted ā€˜limitlessā€™ but the technology behind the transporting and receiving is what is the limitā€¦ the point being that comcast uses coax hybrid fiber to make the distance and breaks it up in the neighborhoodā€¦ the limit with coaxle could be the argument that if my neighbor is an ultimate hack3r like xlogic and he says up all night testing uploads and downloads the coaxle will eventually ā€˜stealā€™ my bandwidth to allow him moreā€¦ the non switched portion of coaxle allows for increased traffic and overhead due to collisions and broken packetsā€¦ the switched fios though, will limit the user at the port level so that they canā€™t utilize the ā€˜limitlessnessā€™ of fiber (lol), fiber can only be spliced so far then it needs to be regenerated which causes overheadā€¦ older technologies require that traffic to be decoded and re-encoded when its regenerated which causes latencyā€¦ the law of diminishing returns and oversubscription are inherent in this conversation, so whateverā€¦ itā€™s all junk and it all goes to the same place, the internet. ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-internet-cable/192686/35 "2007-10-11T12:11:15Z")
> [@More rice for the STi](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-rice-for-the-sti/32961/7): > > itā€™s coolā€¦ itā€™s way more in depth than that, but thatsā€™ my takeā€¦ the inherent value of FIOS is that itā€™s a switched technology, coax is simply a shared lineā€¦ the segmentation allows FIOS to be predictable and granular in itā€™s serviceā€¦ then again, there are issues with that, the limitations of the fiber is quoted ā€˜limitlessā€™ but the technology behind the transporting and receiving is what is the limitā€¦ the point being that comcast uses coax hybrid fiber to make the distance and breaks it up in the neighborhoodā€¦ the limit with coaxle could be the argument that if my neighbor is an ultimate hack3r like xlogic and he says up all night testing uploads and downloads the coaxle will eventually ā€˜stealā€™ my bandwidth to allow him moreā€¦ the non switched portion of coaxle allows for increased traffic and overhead due to collisions and broken packetsā€¦ the switched fios though, will limit the user at the port level so that they canā€™t utilize the ā€˜limitlessnessā€™ of fiber (lol), fiber can only be spliced so far then it needs to be regenerated which causes overheadā€¦ older technologies require that traffic to be decoded and re-encoded when its regenerated which causes latencyā€¦ the law of diminishing returns and oversubscription are inherent in this conversation, so whateverā€¦ itā€™s all junk and it all goes to the same place, the internet. so when are you signing up for netzero? ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-internet-cable/192686/36 "2007-10-11T12:12:57Z")
> [@More rice for the STi](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/more-rice-for-the-sti/32961/9): > > so when are you signing up for netzero? i donā€™t use the internetā€¦ itā€™s just a gimmick ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-internet-cable/192686/37 "2007-10-11T12:13:49Z")
> [@keeping FF or IE on top of other windows?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/keeping-ff-or-ie-on-top-of-other-windows/32957/2): > > i donā€™t use the internetā€¦ itā€™s just a gimmick teh interweb is for p0rn ---
**Author:** ![xlogic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/59ef9b/32.png) [@xlogic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/xlogic)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-internet-cable/192686/38 "2007-10-11T19:50:59Z")
> [@fshowcars"](#): > > what marketingā€¦ FIOS was a new product in the market that was a monopoly (discounting DSL for arguments sake, referring to highspeed cable interweb)ā€¦ also, deflate your headā€¦ anything you say will never play a role in my lifeā€¦ there are REAL fios employeesā€¦ not cell phone jockies, but guys that install the stuffā€¦ i was referring to themā€¦ you know, people that have actual knowledge of the technology. In case you donā€™t know when i was working for verizon i was flown to DC to get ā€œREALā€ training on the fiber optic technology that i would be selling as a service. My head was never inflated, the only time i open my mouth on any subject is when i at least have a general understanding on what it is and how it works. Make yourself more clear next time and donā€™t come off as such a jackass everytime you and i are in the same thread and maybe things would do smoother. We got off on the wrong foot from the beginning and you coming in with your attitude doesnā€™t help. Iā€™ve said it before, i know my shit but computers/IT isnā€™t my thing, itā€™s boring, iā€™ll let you be the nerd to program the next door neighbors VCR :kekegay: ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-internet-cable/192686/39 "2007-10-12T15:38:09Z")
> [@keeping FF or IE on top of other windows?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/keeping-ff-or-ie-on-top-of-other-windows/32957/2): > > i donā€™t use the internetā€¦ itā€™s just a gimmick šŸ¤£ ---
**Author:** ![95V8TBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/a8b319/32.png) [@95V8TBird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/95V8TBird)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2007, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-internet-cable/192686/40 "2007-10-13T18:08:05Z")
I have Comcast, and i have 16mb serviceā€¦i know its not available in all areas, but it is in Cory [![http://www.speedtest.net/result/192612641.png](http://www.speedtest.net/result/192612641.png)](http://www.speedtest.net) [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-internet-cable/192686.md?page=1)