# Cheap project car heads up **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [August 26, 2008, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-project-car-heads-up/53878 "2008-08-26T08:05:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-project-car-heads-up/53878/1 "2008-08-26T08:05:56Z")
[http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Parts-Accessories\_\_\_1988-BMW-E30-M3-M3-ROLLER\_W0QQitemZ160276407278QQddnZPartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQddiZ2811QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item160276407278&\_trkparms=39%3A1|65%3A3|240%3A1318&\_trksid=p4506.c0.m245](http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Parts-Accessories___1988-BMW-E30-M3-M3-ROLLER_W0QQitemZ160276407278QQddnZPartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQddiZ2811QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item160276407278&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C65%3A3%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245) Dont ask why i was looking for it, but its about 4 months too early :snky: ---
**Author:** ![Jagermeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f19dbf/32.png) [@Jagermeister](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jagermeister)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-project-car-heads-up/53878/2 "2008-08-26T08:09:10Z")
I bet that auction ends around $7k. ---
**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-project-car-heads-up/53878/3 "2008-08-26T08:11:49Z")
I would love to own one of those. That is the car my beretta GTZ was built to be comparable too at a lower price. GM would have done it if they would have stuck with their RWD plan. ---
**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-project-car-heads-up/53878/4 "2008-08-26T08:18:52Z")
> [@Penfold](#): > > I would love to own one of those. > > That is the car my beretta GTZ was built to be comparable too at a lower price. > > GM would have done it if they would have stuck with their RWD plan. I can def. see the similarities between the M3 and the Beretta GTZ ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-project-car-heads-up/53878/5 "2008-08-26T08:20:01Z")
> [@93dx--hatch](#): > > I can def. see the similarities between the M3 and the Beretta GTZ WTF and it has a 6k BIN price… ---
**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-project-car-heads-up/53878/6 "2008-08-26T08:23:06Z")
> [@Viper966](#): > > WTF > > and it has a 6k BIN price… Yeah, its a GTZ, one of the best all around FWD cars ever built, its like the ITR of the 80s ---
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-project-car-heads-up/53878/7 "2008-08-26T08:25:15Z")
> [@93dx--hatch](#): > > Yeah, its a GTZ, one of the best all around FWD cars ever built, its like the ITR of the 80s :jawdrop: ---
**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-project-car-heads-up/53878/8 "2008-08-26T08:26:22Z")
^ ok I guess you aren’t picking up the sarcasm today. Beretta GTZs are fucking horrible ---
**Author:** ![ILCisDEAD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-project-car-heads-up/53878/9 "2008-08-26T08:27:17Z")
LOL I was in shock too lol ---
**Author:** ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-project-car-heads-up/53878/10 "2008-08-26T08:29:20Z")
the ford taurus is a much better platform to start with, the ses model was built to blow away bmw ---
**Author:** ![Kramer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/97f17d/32.png) [@Kramer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Kramer)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-project-car-heads-up/53878/11 "2008-08-26T08:32:24Z")
an lsx in that would be awsome ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-project-car-heads-up/53878/12 "2008-08-26T08:34:03Z")
I guess the comparison came from the motor trend article: [http://listing-index.ebay.com/cars/Chevrolet\_Beretta.html](http://listing-index.ebay.com/cars/Chevrolet_Beretta.html) > The GTZ was the high-performance Beretta, and was produced from 1990-1993. It came standard with Oldmobile’s 2.3L High Output Quad 4, which produced 180 hp (134 kW) and 160 ft·lbf (217 N·m) of torque. Also standard was a Getrag 5-speed manual transmission and GM’s FE7 performance suspension. Motor Trend’s March 1990 issue ranked the GTZ’s performance with the **BMW M3** > of the time. The car posted a 0-to-60 mph time of 7.6 seconds and one of the fastest slalom speeds of any front wheel drive car ever, even besting the rear wheel drive Chevrolet Camaro. but it’s more of a joke really… when the berreta gtz came out the M3 was pretty underpowered for it’s age so GM can easily attack it for marketing purposes. it was never designed to be comparable to, they simply picked an easy target. It would be like saying the cobalt SS was designed to be like the lotus elise but cheaper. ---
**Author:** ![AKA-FERRARI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/aka-ferrari/32/7260_2.png) [@AKA-FERRARI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AKA-FERRARI)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-project-car-heads-up/53878/13 "2008-08-26T08:51:35Z")
> [@Penfold](#): > > I would love to own one of those. > > That is the car my beretta GTZ was built to be comparable too at a lower price. > > GM would have done it if they would have stuck with their RWD plan. possibly the dumbest thing i’ve ever heard… ---
**Author:** ![AKA-FERRARI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/aka-ferrari/32/7260_2.png) [@AKA-FERRARI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AKA-FERRARI)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-project-car-heads-up/53878/14 "2008-08-26T08:53:22Z")
> [@POOPRA](#): > > the ford taurus is a much better platform to start with, the ses model was built to blow away bmw Your thinkin of the CLI model (cli-taurus) ---
**Author:** ![fiend540](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bcef8e/32.png) [@fiend540](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fiend540)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-project-car-heads-up/53878/15 "2008-08-26T08:54:21Z")
I’m assuming this is an e30 m3?(Can’t check ebay on my phone). If so there is nothing cheap about them seeing as they share very little with other e30’s. You would be better off with a 325is way cheaper to maintain and make fast. ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-project-car-heads-up/53878/16 "2008-08-26T09:06:37Z")
> [@AKA-FERRARI](#): > > Your thinkin of the CLI model (cli-taurus) Such huge money pits, and near impossible to maintain. ---
**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-project-car-heads-up/53878/17 "2008-08-26T09:08:16Z")
ok, you guys are either fucking idiots or didn’t even take the time to comprehend what I wrote. If you read carefully you will understand that I said GM built it to be comparable to the e30 M3. I didn’t say it was built to match it or beat it or even compete in the same market as it. AKA ferrari, I am surprised you can even read… ---
**Author:** ![AKA-FERRARI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/aka-ferrari/32/7260_2.png) [@AKA-FERRARI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AKA-FERRARI)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-project-car-heads-up/53878/18 "2008-08-26T09:12:18Z")
^^I know what you were trying to say…tard. I just dont know who’s dumber GM for saying it, or you for taking credability in it. ---
**Author:** ![Penfold](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/penfold/32/5007_2.png) [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-project-car-heads-up/53878/19 "2008-08-26T09:15:17Z")
holy crap, you are stupid. You still don’t understand what I said. ---
**Author:** ![AKA-FERRARI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/aka-ferrari/32/7260_2.png) [@AKA-FERRARI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AKA-FERRARI)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-project-car-heads-up/53878/20 "2008-08-26T09:16:45Z")
^^i give up on you, go drive your bimmer into a wall i guess [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cheap-project-car-heads-up/53878.md?page=2)