# Check points **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 27, 2006, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/check-points/185860 "2006-10-27T00:13:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 24
**Author:** ![Blackbelt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blackbelt/32/5998_2.png) [@Blackbelt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blackbelt)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/check-points/185860/24 "2006-10-28T14:59:06Z")
> [@Motorcycle HID ?'s](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/motorcycle-hid-s/25422/16): > > :boink you’re right about these points, except in our society it’s not OK to entrap (sitting outside a bar is entrapment) but it’s OK to inconvenience everyone else equally and get less results. Like at a checkpoint. > > As for a money generating entreprise, yeah, stuff like motorcycle and car emissions are definitely a racket. And inspection practices are also a bit lax at some of the shady “lick-'em-and-stick-'em” inspection centers. But, if we put car alcohol-immobilizers on every car (and motorcycle?), it would be Un-American, right? Where’s the fine line between public outcry and big brother? I think checkpoints are a “fair” compromise in the scope of the aforementioned extremes, but I agree they’re _unconstitutional_ according to the 4th Amendment. A checkpoint that is in place where everyone is stopped is no better than Nazi Germany (Paperssss Pleassse!). EXACTLY! Only at a checkpoint, are you presumed guilty, until you can prove yourself to be innocent. Otherwise, why are you being stopped? They presume you are drunk, and if you can prove you are not, then you are permitted to go. Police on patrol is the most effective way of combatting drunk drivers. Unmarked cars will catch more drunks than the NAzi checkpoints. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/check-points/185860)._