# Check points **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 27, 2006, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/check-points/185860 "2006-10-27T00:13:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 27
**Author:** ![Blackbelt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blackbelt/32/5998_2.png) [@Blackbelt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blackbelt)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/check-points/185860/27 "2006-10-28T15:53:17Z")
> [@fs:paint kits fer sale](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-paint-kits-fer-sale/25426/31): > > It just means they only catch dumb/illiterate/underinformed criminals if they announce it and cleverly try to sidestep the 4th Amendment by means of public and pre-disclosed knowledge of said illegal checkpoints? > > And, thanks to your post, the Pittspeed community is at least not the “underinformed” class of criminals! 🙂 > > (Shag…I’m not being a smart ass here, but **Thanks!** It’s good that we all are looking out for each other’s well being at a certain level.) > > Announcement or not, it’s still a violation of the spirit and wording of the document. It’s just that less people will bitch if it’s disclosed, whether they understand the 4th Amendment or not. That’s why they still do it and less people bitch. If they want a national drunk driving law, it should be an amendment and ratified. > > Our duly voted-in representatives should modify the documents by creating an Amendment further defining that… > > In the interest of public safety and well-being, an exception to the clause of the 4th Amendment describing unreasonable search shall be allowable if the harm caused by the act not being seached for is greater than the consequences of the act itself. > > Seems reasonable? Or would that be too broad, like the Patriot Act? Slippery slope. Who would decide what is the greater harm? The Libertarian in me cringes at this. We have laws against driving drunk. They are clear. The answer is not Nazi checkpoints. The answer is for the police to do their jobs and catch drivers and the answer is for the damned courts to actually PUNISH the drunks the cops catch. I have lost track of how mnay times i have read reports in the paper of some asshole who has 3-4-5 or more drunk driving convictions, and they finally end up killing someone. WTF are they even doing on the streets? They belong in jail. People drink and drive becasue they don’t go to jail. Start putting their ass in jail after the second offense. There was a case of some low life rich fuck who was plastered and hit a yound woman who was taking her kid to a babysitter so she could go to her waitress job. He killed her. The cops found a shitload of empty beer cans in this douch bags car. Even though he was legally drunk, his fucking lawyer convinced a brain dead jury that it was the womans fault, that she was distracted by her kid in the back seat and crossed the center line. The fact that this scumbag had 3 prior drunk driving convictions was witheld form the jury. THIS is where the problems come from! --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/check-points/185860)._