# Chevy Volt pricing

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [June 24, 2008, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/chevy-volt-pricing/50528 "2008-06-24T11:28:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/chevy-volt-pricing/50528/81 "2008-06-26T19:53:35Z")

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> [@RedGoober4Life](#):
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> Do you think the Prius appeals to normal Americans?
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> When I see a Prius driver they look pretty atypical. Like aliens.

I never see them in Buffalo but I can tell you I see tons of them in Seattle, Portland, and Cali. Lots of people(not sure if I would call any people here normal) drive them. Almost all of the men have outdoorsy burly beards too. Seeing super burly dude brah in a flannel rocking a Prius is priceless.

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**Author:** ![RedGoober4Life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redgoober4life/32/7610_2.png) [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 4:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/chevy-volt-pricing/50528/82 "2008-06-27T04:20:24Z")

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Got your eyes peeled for an ecofriendly husbear, eh?

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 4:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/chevy-volt-pricing/50528/83 "2008-06-27T04:25:30Z")

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> [@OriginalSterm](#):
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> Toyota lost money on the first Prius they made, and look how the consumer world applauded them when it came out. Why is it a bad idea if GM does the same?

Because GM isn’t doing the same. Toyota released the first Prius at $19999. Add in tax incentives and it was a hot seller. GM is releasing the Volt at 40k, twice as much as the original Prius, and well outside the budget of people looking to save money on gas.

But that’s fine because the Volt has proven there is interest in the idea, just not at that cost. Some other company will step in without GM’s union pension overhead and sell one for 25-30k and make a mint off it while GM continues it’s downward spiral.

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**Author:** ![OriginalSterm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/originalsterm/32/4964_2.png) [@OriginalSterm](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OriginalSterm)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 4:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/chevy-volt-pricing/50528/84 "2008-06-27T04:34:46Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> Because GM isn’t doing the same. Toyota released the first Prius at $19999. Add in tax incentives and it was a hot seller. GM is releasing the Volt at 40k, twice as much as the original Prius, and well outside the budget of people looking to save money on gas.
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> But that’s fine because the Volt has proven there is interest in the idea, just not at that cost. **Some other company will step in without GM’s union pension overhead and sell one for 25-30k and make a mint off it while GM continues it’s downward spiral**.

Absolutely true.

Toyota sold their Prius under cost (and half the cost of the Volt), but it also didn’t save people the amount of money it promised either. The difference between the 2007 fuel economy ratings and the 2008 are incredible. Not many people were able to squeek out the mileage the window sticker promised. Not that it justifies the higher cost of the Volt, but it WILL be a better car. GM is making sure of that.

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**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 4:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/chevy-volt-pricing/50528/85 "2008-06-27T04:37:48Z")

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GM will sell everyone they make for the first year (10,000 units)  
sort of like if they sold the ZR1 at 150k  
I like the idea of them making the mark-up rather than the dealer. If they would have taken a bigger hit and priced it at 30k the dealers would have marked it up another 5k for demand.  
Then they might look at dropping the price after demand slows.

In regards to the prius dealer mark up still  
[http://www.hybridcarblog.com/2008/05/300000-prius-markup-screw-customer.html](http://www.hybridcarblog.com/2008/05/300000-prius-markup-screw-customer.html)  
[http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2008/06/toyota-prius-ho.html](http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2008/06/toyota-prius-ho.html)

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**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/chevy-volt-pricing/50528/86 "2008-06-27T11:19:43Z")

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This is also interesting:

Sales of Toyota Motor Corp’s Prius hybrid in the January-May period for the past five years:

2003 8,796  
2004 17,564 99.7 percent  
2005 43,686 148.7 percent  
2006 38,460 -11.9 percent  
2007 76,747 99.6 percent  
2008 79,675 3.8 percent

Looks like demand is slowing or they are at max capacity, I am guessing the later.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/chevy-volt-pricing/50528/87 "2008-06-27T11:27:30Z")

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WTF happened in 2006?

Up 148%, down 12%, then back up 100%?

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**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/chevy-volt-pricing/50528/88 "2008-06-27T11:36:18Z")

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They added more production

[http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2006-11-05-prius-usat\_x.htm](http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2006-11-05-prius-usat_x.htm)

The shortage is being eased by a second shift that recently began at Toyota’s assembly plant in Tsutsumi, Japan.

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**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/chevy-volt-pricing/50528/89 "2008-10-07T14:35:13Z")

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EPA considering a new way to test plug in hybrids  
[http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080927/AUTO01/809270368](http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080927/AUTO01/809270368)

> **[US bailout, plug-in credit a boost for automakers](https://www.reuters.com/article/financial-bailout-autos/us-bailout-plug-in-credit-a-boost-for-automakers-idINN0336545720081003?rpc=44)**
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> Automakers received another boost from Congress with passage on Friday of the $700 billion financial rescue bill that the industry hopes will revive car loans and help create a mass market for electric vehicles.

  
The financial bailout legislation included a consumer tax credit of between $2,500 and $7,500 for plug-in vehicles.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 5:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/chevy-volt-pricing/50528/90 "2010-01-11T05:39:23Z")

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_Bump_

One of the big questions about the Volt gets an answer and it looks good.

[http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2010/autos/1001/gallery.chevrolet\_volt\_review/index.html](http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2010/autos/1001/gallery.chevrolet_volt_review/index.html)

Still thinking 40k is way too much for this to be a success for GM though, at least while gas is \< $5/gal.

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/chevy-volt-pricing/50528/91 "2010-01-11T07:35:02Z")

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I still think the Caddy version (which is rumored to have been given the green light) at $50k - $60k would be an easier sell

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/chevy-volt-pricing/50528/92 "2010-01-11T08:22:03Z")

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Possible mod potential?

_“Off the-the-line acceleration was dialed back a bit, GM told me, to protect the test car from a jolting, tire-screeching start. Production cars could be a little quicker to jump out.”_

Maybe a “burnout” button could eliminate any power-limiting off the line :tup:

… WTF am I talking about; it’s a $40k front wheel drive car, lol.

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/chevy-volt-pricing/50528/93 "2010-01-11T08:28:20Z")

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It was on Jay Leno’s garage a couple weeks ago

> **[Jay Leno's Garage - NBC.com](https://www.nbc.com/jay-lenos-garage)**
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> Explore Jay Leno's Big Dog Garage, one of the best car collections in the country.

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/chevy-volt-pricing/50528/94 "2010-01-11T10:03:22Z")

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When is the world going to realize we base our entire being off the notion of blowing things up to produce energy? I think a “hybrid” is just an excuse to not fully develop a new technology to replace fossil fuels.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/chevy-volt-pricing/50528/95 "2010-01-11T10:20:04Z")

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When are idiots going to realize since we base our being off the notion of fossil fuels we aren’t simply going to fully develop a new technology to replace them overnight. Hybrids are a stepping stone.

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/chevy-volt-pricing/50528/96 "2010-01-11T11:05:15Z")

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New technology is here already. The infrastructure, cost / benefit and market forces to grow the prominence of the technology are not.

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/chevy-volt-pricing/50528/97 "2010-01-11T11:27:39Z")

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> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> New technology is here already.

ORLY? Examples?

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/chevy-volt-pricing/50528/98 "2010-01-11T11:44:23Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> ORLY? Examples?

Every hydrogen vehicle for starters. The tech works great and there are hundreds on the road right now. Same with plug-in electric cars (Tesla, etc.)

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/chevy-volt-pricing/50528/99 "2010-01-11T11:45:48Z")

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Tesla is actually doing really well. That just proves that this new technology is for people with deep pockets though.

Honda is still piloting that hydrogen fuel-cell car in So Cal right?

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/chevy-volt-pricing/50528/100 "2010-01-11T11:57:43Z")

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> [@boardjnky4](#):
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> Tesla is actually doing really well. That just proves that this new technology is for people with deep pockets though.
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> Honda is still piloting that hydrogen fuel-cell car in So Cal right?

There are 4 manufacturers that have a real shot at making real world fuel cells cars. Honda is one of them. GM, Toyota, and MB are others. Nissan and Ford made a try for a while, but I think fell back on their spending a bit.

If someone would just pony up the 1 Trillion dollars to get the US infrastructure to support hydrogen, you’d see more of these vehicles on the road.

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