# Civic vs Cutlass **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [November 29, 2007, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/civic-vs-cutlass/39457 "2007-11-29T11:16:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/civic-vs-cutlass/39457/1 "2007-11-29T11:16:18Z")
My buddy’s got 2 old cars. He’s going to replace one. Car #1 1997 Civic DX 101k Auto CD Changer No other options No mods 32mpg Burns a quart of oil every 3k KBB - $4200 Car #2 1997 Olds Cutlass GLS 130k Loaded 24mpg Within the past year, new: -brake lines -fuel lines -tires -head gaskets -intake manifold gasket -front pads & rotors KBB $2500 I know what I think, but what about you guys? Which one does he sell and which does he keep as a DD? ---
**Author:** ![dreid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dreid/32/7388_2.png) [@dreid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dreid)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/civic-vs-cutlass/39457/2 "2007-11-29T11:17:14Z")
keep civic ---
**Author:** ![AShort](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ashort/32/4947_2.png) [@AShort](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AShort)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/civic-vs-cutlass/39457/3 "2007-11-29T11:17:42Z")
hmm…id say sell the cutlass and keep the civ. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/civic-vs-cutlass/39457/4 "2007-11-29T11:29:21Z")
:lol: Nevermind, I actually made some assumptions on repair costs and looked at the numbers. Here was my take: > Keep the Civic. Here’s what I would guess about the next 60k miles: > > ## Cutlass -$4500 Civic sale price $2000 repairs (Cutlass at 197k!!! Yikes! CV joints, wheel bearings, johnson rods…) $8750 gas (60k miles x 24mpg x $3.50/gal) > > $6250 spent on commuting > > ## Civic -$2500 Cutlass sale price $1000 repairs (Civic at 163k, no problem. I bet you a case of Sam Adams it’s under $500 over the next 60k) $6563 gas (60k x 32mpg x $3.50/gal) > > $5063 spent on commuting > > If my shots in the dark are anywhere near accurate, the Civic will cost you less to get to work over the next 60k miles Hell, even if the oil burning gets worse, how hard is it to swap a D16? They’re cheap right? ---
**Author:** ![AShort](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ashort/32/4947_2.png) [@AShort](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AShort)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/civic-vs-cutlass/39457/5 "2007-11-29T11:46:15Z")
[quote=“Fry,post:4,topic:39457"”] :lol: Nevermind, I actually made some assumptions on repair costs and looked at the numbers. Here was my take: Hell, even if the oil burning gets worse, how hard is it to swap a D16? They’re cheap right? [/quote] super cheap…you can get one pulled at M&M for like 200 bucks…its probably cheaper than that lol. ---
**Author:** ![speedracer18t](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@speedracer18t](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/speedracer18t)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/civic-vs-cutlass/39457/6 "2007-11-29T11:50:41Z")
yea keep the civ… even if he wants to sell it down the road he’ll most likely get what hes asking for it. ---
**Author:** ![rugsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rugsr/32/7474_2.png) [@rugsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rugsr)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/civic-vs-cutlass/39457/7 "2007-11-29T11:52:51Z")
i would get rid of that civic . . . . . . . . . . . . . . and sell it to me :snky: ---
**Author:** ![Justin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justin/32/7459_2.png) [@Justin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Justin)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/civic-vs-cutlass/39457/8 "2007-11-29T13:46:05Z")
KEEP THE CUTLASS. ---
**Author:** ![1BADGPGT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1badgpgt/32/5123_2.png) [@1BADGPGT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1BADGPGT)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/civic-vs-cutlass/39457/9 "2007-11-29T15:19:56Z")
Im a GM guy but, that Cutlass is going to need more work down the road. The trans ~might~ last but, the odds of it failing here on out are high. 2 head gaskets…unless you know who did them, you could be looking at them, or the intake manifold gaskets going again. Like I said, Im a GM guy and I would never buy a 93-95 GM car with high miles. Those cars transmissions suck, and the engine reliability is hit or miss (my 3100 got me 215k mi. on the odometer when I pulled it to replace with the SC’d 3800. ---
**Author:** ![Jon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@Jon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jon)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/civic-vs-cutlass/39457/10 "2007-11-29T16:11:09Z")
Both? lol ---
**Author:** ![94Blackls](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94blackls/32/7322_2.png) [@94Blackls](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Blackls)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/civic-vs-cutlass/39457/11 "2007-11-29T16:59:20Z")
keep the civic, much more reliable, will last much longer plus cutlass = :tdown: ---
**Author:** ![91CRXSI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91crxsi/32/7247_2.png) [@91CRXSI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91CRXSI)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/civic-vs-cutlass/39457/12 "2007-11-29T18:12:40Z")
civic should have timing belt and water pump replaced like now… then drive it for another 100K ---
**Author:** ![cky89](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cky89/32/4945_2.png) [@cky89](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cky89)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/civic-vs-cutlass/39457/13 "2007-11-29T18:22:57Z")
[quote=“91CRXSI,post:12,topic:39457"”] civic should have timing belt and water pump replaced like now… then drive it for another 100K [/quote] true. i can vouch for my old civic having 250k on it when i sold it. ---
**Author:** ![reliant\_turbo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/reliant_turbo/32/7189_2.png) [@reliant\_turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reliant_turbo)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/civic-vs-cutlass/39457/14 "2007-11-29T18:56:33Z")
sell both, buy cheap dohc 5-speed neon, hack neon cat out and space out rear o2 with spark plug non foulers. 40mpg, more scoot than the civic and alot more cash in the wallet. even if you have to fix some small stuff, which is all most neons need, youll still come out financially ahead. 🙂 Brian ---
**Author:** ![94Blackls](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94blackls/32/7322_2.png) [@94Blackls](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Blackls)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2007, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/civic-vs-cutlass/39457/15 "2007-11-29T20:18:19Z")
:uhh: :shrug: ---
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 3:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/civic-vs-cutlass/39457/16 "2007-11-30T03:58:39Z")
I’m not sure this should even be a question. ---
**Author:** ![1BADGPGT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1badgpgt/32/5123_2.png) [@1BADGPGT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1BADGPGT)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/civic-vs-cutlass/39457/17 "2007-11-30T08:28:58Z")
> hack neon cat out and space out rear o2 with spark plug non foulers Does that really work? I was going to remove a cat on a 98 Dodge Pick Up… ---
**Author:** ![Rsnake91](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rsnake91/32/4996_2.png) [@Rsnake91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rsnake91)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/civic-vs-cutlass/39457/18 "2007-11-30T08:29:39Z")
go for the civic dude. ---
**Author:** ![reliant\_turbo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/reliant_turbo/32/7189_2.png) [@reliant\_turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reliant_turbo)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/civic-vs-cutlass/39457/19 "2007-11-30T09:16:07Z")
[quote=“1BADGPGT,post:17,topic:39457"”] Does that really work? I was going to remove a cat on a 98 Dodge Pick Up… [/quote] works for some cars. thats basically what some cat backs for the SRT do and it works great for them. they have a pipe that spaces the o2 away from the pipe and it keeps the ecm happy. im going to try it on the tracker. Brian ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/civic-vs-cutlass/39457/20 "2007-11-30T10:16:22Z")
I thought that modern cats don’t really create much restriction at all? [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/civic-vs-cutlass/39457.md?page=2)