# Civil Liberties At Risk?

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**Created:** [March 17, 2008, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/civil-liberties-at-risk/45133 "2008-03-17T07:22:04Z")
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#### Post date: [March 17, 2008, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/civil-liberties-at-risk/45133/13 "2008-03-17T15:06:38Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> Can any of you provide one example of an average joe being directly affected by the patriot act? You know, someone who downloads movies, or smokes pot, or some other mundane crime that was caught because of patriot act enabled investigation.

Pretty much my thinking. When the Patriot Act is used for things other than protecting the safety of the country, then I would start to question it.

> [@JEG](#):
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> Correction Bush doesnt control oil prices. It is a futures market. You know who controls the price? The consumers.
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> The patriot act does not effect law abiding citizens. If you don’t do anything shady then you’re fine. I have no problems with it.

I used oil prices and bush in the same sentence but I am just stating some history making things that have happened. The worst approval rating and record oil prices being two memories of this time period, not saying that Bush caused them.

> [@Joe](#):
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> The guy who shined the laser pointer in the sky looking at stars with his daughter and got arrested and charged under the patriot act for hitting a jet comes to mind…i can google it when i’m home but searching for marijuana possession and filesharing may not be work safe.
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> Still though, since when are you one to give the government the power and trust them not to abuse it?

That would be something you just don’t do. I think he was by an airport which makes it stupid. Its like saying bomb on an airplane or yelling fire in a crowded place. Its not a civil liberty you are taking away by prosecuting people for it, its just something common people don’t do.

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