# clarkson's pick for car of the year **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [December 8, 2012, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clarksons-pick-for-car-of-the-year/227638 "2012-12-08T06:24:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clarksons-pick-for-car-of-the-year/227638/21 "2012-12-12T21:39:04Z")
People that don’t like the FR-S are the same people that complain that 350HP is not enough. I fucking love my Miata, call it a chick car but whatever, take me in a straight line…yous win, your penis is bigger. But. Take me in the corners, where it counts, and I’ll destroy you. That’s what the FR-S is about. It’s real DRIVERS car. Near 50/50 weight distribution, excellent handling, mild power, small, nimble. It’s the package. Not since the NA Miata or Lotus Elan was released was there a car that truly felt 100% in control while behind the drivers seat. This is a great car. Fuck your corvette/mustang/CTS-V. ---
**Author:** ![08GT500](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/08gt500/32/5417_2.png) [@08GT500](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/08GT500)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clarksons-pick-for-car-of-the-year/227638/22 "2012-12-12T22:43:56Z")
> [@Motocrossx23](#): > > People that don’t like the FR-S are the same people that complain that 350HP is not enough. > > I fucking love my Miata, call it a chick car but whatever, take me in a straight line…yous win, your penis is bigger. > > But. > > Take me in the corners, where it counts, and I’ll destroy you. > > That’s what the FR-S is about. It’s real DRIVERS car. Near 50/50 weight distribution, excellent handling, mild power, small, nimble. It’s the package. > > Not since the NA Miata or Lotus Elan was released was there a car that truly felt 100% in control while behind the drivers seat. > > This is a great car. Fuck your corvette/mustang/CTS-V. That is your opinion. Try man handling 600 plus horse while taking those curves. That to me is driving. It’s a fine line between fast and losing the tail. ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clarksons-pick-for-car-of-the-year/227638/23 "2012-12-12T23:31:07Z")
> [@Motocrossx23](#): > > People that don’t like the FR-S are the same people that complain that 350HP is not enough. > > I fucking love my Miata, call it a chick car but whatever, take me in a straight line…yous win, your penis is bigger. > > But. > > Take me in the corners, where it counts, and I’ll destroy you. > > That’s what the FR-S is about. It’s real DRIVERS car. Near 50/50 weight distribution, excellent handling, mild power, small, nimble. It’s the package. > > Not since the NA Miata or Lotus Elan was released was there a car that truly felt 100% in control while behind the drivers seat. > > This is a great car. Fuck your corvette/mustang/CTS-V. Not trying to be a complete asshole here but, have you even driven one? Or are you just basing this on internet articles, hype, fanboy forums etc? I’m not saying it’s not a great car, it certainly seems to be based on what I’ve READ (haven’t thrashed one around yet). However, saying a “fuck a CTS-V, Vette, Mustang etc” because “corners” just makes you look handicapped. You don’t have to chose handling or power, you can have your cake and eat it too. ---
**Author:** ![08GT500](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/08gt500/32/5417_2.png) [@08GT500](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/08GT500)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clarksons-pick-for-car-of-the-year/227638/24 "2012-12-13T02:08:28Z")
^I like the way this guy thinks. ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 2:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clarksons-pick-for-car-of-the-year/227638/25 "2012-12-13T02:34:36Z")
All 3 cars mentioned have laid down sweet ass lap times in various articles I have read. I think ha. I like burnouts and straight line fun though since I am a nancy/bad driver otherwise. However according to moto this means I have a huge penis. SIQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQq ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 3:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clarksons-pick-for-car-of-the-year/227638/26 "2012-12-13T03:32:34Z")
Yeah I have driven one, also idk why I was so angry last night lol. Also, Drew has a huge penis…no homo. ---
**Author:** ![08GT500](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/08gt500/32/5417_2.png) [@08GT500](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/08GT500)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clarksons-pick-for-car-of-the-year/227638/27 "2012-12-13T06:11:49Z")
> [@Motocrossx23](#): > > Yeah I have driven one, also idk why I was so angry last night lol. > > Also, Drew has a huge penis…no homo. Bromance taken too far? ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clarksons-pick-for-car-of-the-year/227638/28 "2012-12-13T06:16:08Z")
Not even close \<3 ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 6:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clarksons-pick-for-car-of-the-year/227638/29 "2012-12-13T06:21:00Z")
People are still stuck in the 80s mindset of domestics can’t turn ☹ ---
**Author:** ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clarksons-pick-for-car-of-the-year/227638/30 "2012-12-13T07:04:15Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > I think clarkson picked it because it’s a fresh simple formula of less is more in a world of super heavy + lots of power. The statement is that we need more like this. > > Put this thing around watkins glen and 99% of nyspeed would find that power is not the weak area. If your talking about the 99% of nyspeed who does not have much track time I agree. For myself I would definitely want more power. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clarksons-pick-for-car-of-the-year/227638/31 "2012-12-13T07:24:49Z")
generically speaking, power is like money. who doesn’t want more money even if you’re not going to use it? Would I want one of these for my daily car? no way, too slow for that. But going back to my main point, Clarkson is praising the formula, it takes a brave company to produce a lightweight, RWD, affordable sports car (not GT car) these days… my track car is the least powerful of the 4 cars I own, and I see nothing wrong with this. ---
**Author:** ![Garick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8797f3/32.png) [@Garick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Garick)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clarksons-pick-for-car-of-the-year/227638/32 "2012-12-13T09:57:50Z")
even though the corvette/cts-v/mustang etc. might have more grip and ultimate speed they’ll never be able to match the feel of a 2600 lb car with a much shorter wheel base. I do wish it had more like 250hp but still a great package. ---
**Author:** ![08GT500](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/08gt500/32/5417_2.png) [@08GT500](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/08GT500)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clarksons-pick-for-car-of-the-year/227638/33 "2012-12-13T10:00:03Z")
> [@Garick](#): > > even though the corvette/cts-v/mustang etc. might have more grip and ultimate speed they’ll never be able to match the feel of a 2600 lb car with a much shorter wheel base. I do wish it had more like 250hp but still a great package. Should have upwards 300 horse in the STi variant. ---
**Author:** ![captain\_morgan1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/captain_morgan1/32/5928_2.png) [@captain\_morgan1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/captain_morgan1)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clarksons-pick-for-car-of-the-year/227638/34 "2012-12-13T19:59:49Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > those people should be getting V6 mustangs \> genesis. Apparently you have not driven both… the NEW 2013 Genesis coupes in the 2.0t and 3.8 are much more fun to whip around than a mustang V6 or gt. Gt is much faster but not nearly as fun to drive. ---
**Author:** ![08GT500](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/08gt500/32/5417_2.png) [@08GT500](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/08GT500)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clarksons-pick-for-car-of-the-year/227638/35 "2012-12-13T20:16:15Z")
> [@captain morgan](#): > > Apparently you have not driven both… the NEW 2013 Genesis coupes in the 2.0t and 3.8 are much more fun to whip around than a mustang V6 or gt. Gt is much faster but not nearly as fun to drive. I’ll give you the v6 stang but the GT is right on par with the m3. ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clarksons-pick-for-car-of-the-year/227638/36 "2012-12-13T21:11:26Z")
Pretty sure that dude sells the Genesis so he thinks they are OMG SO GOOD! ---
**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clarksons-pick-for-car-of-the-year/227638/37 "2012-12-14T20:30:03Z")
> [@captain morgan](#): > > Apparently you have not driven both… the NEW 2013 Genesis coupes in the 2.0t and 3.8 are much more fun to whip around than a mustang V6 or gt. Gt is much faster but not nearly as fun to drive. I have driven the mustang both engines and the 3.8L genesis. I did not like the interior or the seating position in the genesis. I found the mustang was much easier to drive. ---
**Author:** ![captain\_morgan1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/captain_morgan1/32/5928_2.png) [@captain\_morgan1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/captain_morgan1)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clarksons-pick-for-car-of-the-year/227638/38 "2012-12-14T21:53:01Z")
I do sell Genesis’…and mustangs and miatas etc… and drive them everyday. Mustang is hands down faster just not as fun imo. And FYI alex you drove the 2012 Genesis, 2013 is a whole new animal 4cyl has 70hp more and the v6 has 40hp more. Just different strokes… I am sure the board would split 50/50 if i asked Miata or Mustang, its the same concept. ---
**Author:** ![STEALTTH](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stealtth/32/7582_2.png) [@STEALTTH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/STEALTTH)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2012, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clarksons-pick-for-car-of-the-year/227638/39 "2012-12-18T13:35:19Z")
> [@Motocrossx23](#): > > …People that don’t like the FR-S are the same people that complain that 350HP is not enough…Take me in the corners, where it counts, and I’ll destroy you…It’s real DRIVERS car. Near 50/50 weight distribution, excellent handling, mild power, small, nimble. It’s the package. > > Not since the NA Miata or Lotus Elan was released was there a car that truly felt 100% in control while behind the drivers seat. > > This is a great car. Fuck your corvette/mustang/CTS-V. See, here’s the thing. Like Mike said, you don’t have to pick power or handling. Talking about a “real drivers car” sounds like an excuse to me. I owned an S2000 which was also considered a great drivers car (and it was), but it did lack the power to get away from a much faster car on the track even though exit speeds were faster. If you were to auto cross, then perhaps the power doesn’t mean as much in straight line, but on a real track with straights, power matters. On the street, it probably matters more than how fast you can safely take a turn on a public road. I’m probably one of the most unbiased people on here when it comes to what cars I like, but if I’m going to have a dedicated “fun” car, it had better have enough power to pull away from grandma in her Camry. BTW the corvette has 51/49 weight distribution…just sayin 🙂 [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clarksons-pick-for-car-of-the-year/227638.md?page=1)