# Cliff=permabanned **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [April 27, 2010, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cliff-permabanned/251800 "2010-04-27T16:23:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 57
**Author:** ![dkid15](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dkid15/32/6398_2.png) [@dkid15](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dkid15)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cliff-permabanned/251800/57 "2010-04-28T06:25:38Z")
> [@WTB/WTT: Cobra IRS for my 8.8 set-up](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-wtt-cobra-irs-for-my-8-8-set-up/31442/2): > > cliff you start shit with people quite often, maybe you didnt deserve to be banned. But you have a mouth and start shit, as well as make annoying comments; usually when they’re completely un-called for. So dont act innocent. The ban was lifted and brett explained he did not perma-ban you. As he stated, why the fuck would he need to lie about it? Maybe the length of your ban was just an honest mistake. Shift is obviously the meeting place for mostly worthless shit and guys who like to argue over nothing. So i wouldnt take shit seriously, but you do seem to jump on germanpsi’s ass in those threads IMO. Hes a cool dude and is 100% fucking around on here, you would know that if you ever met him. I think thats the problem with alot of the stuff on here, most guys dont “know” the person behind their shift screen names. here is what angers me a bit. “respected” members get hella pissed when someone starts something with them. “o i have alot of posts you cant do that”. then that person will go rip on a noob because his car is junk. (Take that guy with the integra you all told him you were gonna steal) It does nothing but degrade new peoples participation in this site. There are many more instances than this one where it has occurred. Your my boy cliff. You better make edinburgh or however you spell it. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cliff-permabanned/251800)._