# Clutch problem from hell

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clutch-problem-from-hell/155341>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [May 20, 2010, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clutch-problem-from-hell/155341 "2010-05-20T19:05:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![oxthe3rd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9adbd/32.png) [@oxthe3rd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/oxthe3rd)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clutch-problem-from-hell/155341/1 "2010-05-20T19:05:43Z")

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Alright ill start with a little back story. Car is a 1993 Dodge stealth twin turbo. 2 years had the engine rebuilt for a painful $12,000. Car drove for all of 2 months before the clutch the mechanic didn’t tighten properly completely burned up.

Then installed a new clutch and flywheel; lasted for 2 weeks. the car worked great until one morning i started it and the pedal was really weak but still returns.

Found a leaking slave cylinder so replaced that with a brand new oem. Worked for 3 days until on my way home got into it a bit and the car locked me out of all gears.

Next spent $250 for a brand new master cylinder. started the car had pressure for 2 minutes if that before it locked me out of the gears again.

I even replaced the whole clutch line just to make sure that wasn’t leaking with no effect.

the clutch will work if you pump it repeatedly but as soon as you stop it losses pressure immediately.

Basically the point of this thread is for some advice or better yet some help diagnosing this issue. Any help would be appreciated and probably stop me from balding early in my life.

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**Author:** ![livin4hockey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@livin4hockey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/livin4hockey)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clutch-problem-from-hell/155341/2 "2010-05-20T19:18:17Z")

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> [@oxthe3rd"](#):
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> Alright ill start with a little back story. Car is a 1993 Dodge stealth twin turbo. 2 years had the engine rebuilt for a painful **$12,000**.

Are you kidding me?!?!

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**Author:** ![Carbonfiberhooded](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carbonfiberhooded/32/7608_2.png) [@Carbonfiberhooded](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carbonfiberhooded)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clutch-problem-from-hell/155341/3 "2010-05-20T19:48:31Z")

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Did they change out the clutch fork and fulcrum ball when they replaced the clutch? I had a similar problem with my DSM and that’s what it ended up being. The clutch fork was bottoming out on the bellhousing which caused the clutch to not engage or disengage properly.

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**Author:** ![EVOLUTION\_VIII\_MR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/evolution_viii_mr/32/5187_2.png) [@EVOLUTION\_VIII\_MR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EVOLUTION_VIII_MR)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clutch-problem-from-hell/155341/4 "2010-05-20T21:07:31Z")

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best advice… sell the car, buy something new

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**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clutch-problem-from-hell/155341/5 "2010-05-20T21:11:33Z")

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woah, 12k srsly? for 12k you could have had a really nice car ie. something that isnt a dodge stealth

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**Author:** ![challengermike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/challengermike/32/5106_2.png) [@challengermike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/challengermike)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 4:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clutch-problem-from-hell/155341/6 "2010-05-21T04:02:29Z")

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theres still air in the system.

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clutch-problem-from-hell/155341/7 "2010-05-21T05:51:19Z")

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First of all, you got hosed on your 12K engine, unless it’s super built or something.

Second, can you verify that the pedal is actuating the linkage? It’s a very simple system. Does this car have a clutch damper? Remove that, then re-bleed it. What method are you using to bleed the clutch? Might want to try a pressure bleed or vacuum bleed. If you can pump it up and it works, it’s unlikely that it’s the clutch itself, simply the hydraulic system…

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**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clutch-problem-from-hell/155341/8 "2010-05-21T06:35:01Z")

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LOL 12k engine rebuild on a 5k car…

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**Author:** ![oxthe3rd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9adbd/32.png) [@oxthe3rd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/oxthe3rd)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clutch-problem-from-hell/155341/9 "2010-05-21T06:46:52Z")

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Ya i know i got royal screwed on the rebuild: it’s not even built what so ever. Took the guy a year to do a stock engine rebuild and i payed for parts, thats 12 Grand in labor and oil.

Back to the original problem. The arm and fulcrum were changed a year before and seem good. I didn’t bench bleed the master as it was hard enough just getting that thing in there. I want to try vacuum bleeding it but don’t know how or where to get a unit.

Thanks for the quick replys

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clutch-problem-from-hell/155341/10 "2010-05-21T06:49:18Z")

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> [@oxthe3rd](#):
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> Ya i know i got royal screwed on the rebuild: it’s not even built what so ever. Took the guy a year to do a stock engine rebuild and i payed for parts, thats 12 Grand in labor and oil.

FOR SALE:

I built a pressure bleeder:

[http://onyxsyndicate.com/newman/e30gtr/e30gtr\_121.html](http://onyxsyndicate.com/newman/e30gtr/e30gtr_121.html)

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**Author:** ![oxthe3rd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9adbd/32.png) [@oxthe3rd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/oxthe3rd)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clutch-problem-from-hell/155341/11 "2010-05-21T06:59:53Z")

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The bridge would be cheaper to maintain too.

Im gonna try to build that pressure bleeder after work today and we how it goes.

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clutch-problem-from-hell/155341/12 "2010-05-21T07:11:44Z")

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You’re gonna need an extra master cylinder cap…

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**Author:** ![oxthe3rd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9adbd/32.png) [@oxthe3rd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/oxthe3rd)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clutch-problem-from-hell/155341/13 "2010-05-21T07:44:05Z")

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Got one from my old master still; new one came with a new reservoir.

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clutch-problem-from-hell/155341/14 "2010-05-21T07:46:32Z")

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IDEAL. i PM’d you my phone number in case you have any questions

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**Author:** ![oxthe3rd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9adbd/32.png) [@oxthe3rd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/oxthe3rd)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clutch-problem-from-hell/155341/15 "2010-05-21T08:05:19Z")

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Thanks alot Newman. By the way your cars are awesome nice work.

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**Author:** ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clutch-problem-from-hell/155341/16 "2010-05-21T14:27:06Z")

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i bet your fork is bent. you can see the slave and fork on that car, have someone press it while you watch, its probably bottomed out on the transmission case.

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**Author:** ![BadnewsMike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/badnewsmike/32/7419_2.png) [@BadnewsMike](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BadnewsMike)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clutch-problem-from-hell/155341/17 "2010-05-21T19:08:36Z")

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I had the same problem it ended up being this:

 ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/badnewsmini/GTI/DSC_0037.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/badnewsmini/GTI/DSC_0037.jpg)

although that was a GTI

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**Author:** ![oxthe3rd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9adbd/32.png) [@oxthe3rd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/oxthe3rd)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clutch-problem-from-hell/155341/18 "2010-05-25T18:42:03Z")

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Ok tried the pressure bleeder. Still does the same thing. I hate this car.

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**Author:** ![LUC1F3R](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luc1f3r/32/7299_2.png) [@LUC1F3R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUC1F3R)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clutch-problem-from-hell/155341/19 "2010-05-26T15:54:08Z")

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did you check the fork?

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**Author:** ![oxthe3rd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9adbd/32.png) [@oxthe3rd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/oxthe3rd)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/clutch-problem-from-hell/155341/20 "2010-05-28T07:43:56Z")

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Haven’t been able to yet from the little i can see without pulling the transmission; It moves fine and when i first start the car it shifts fine then within a minute loses pressure.

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