# Cobalt SS

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalt-ss/177011>\
**Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [September 13, 2005, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalt-ss/177011 "2005-09-13T19:43:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![InsaneSTi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4bbf92/32.png) [@InsaneSTi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/InsaneSTi)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalt-ss/177011/41 "2005-09-13T20:44:15Z")

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> [@ShalerPunk](#):
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> i’ll bet he shot his pistons 3 feet into the pavement…

he upgraded his turbo 🍺

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**Author:** ![VictorSmalls](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/victorsmalls/32/5944_2.png) [@VictorSmalls](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/VictorSmalls)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalt-ss/177011/42 "2005-09-13T20:45:09Z")

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> [@Black Attack tC](#):
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> he upgraded his turbo 🍺

Dear god :down:

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**Author:** ![grnteg98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@grnteg98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grnteg98)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalt-ss/177011/43 "2005-09-13T20:46:14Z")

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I love tc’s merely for the fact that everyone you see has a hot chick driving it. it’s becoming the new sunfire/cavalier/eclipse/jetta. Eventually the fat chicks will start buying them and putting princess stickers/banners all over them and ruin that as well.  
/rant

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**Author:** ![InsaneSTi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4bbf92/32.png) [@InsaneSTi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/InsaneSTi)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalt-ss/177011/44 "2005-09-13T20:46:59Z")

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> [@VictorSmalls](#):
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> Dear god :down:

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalt-ss/177011/45 "2005-09-13T20:47:47Z")

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> [@Black Attack tC](#):
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> he upgraded his turbo 🍺

i’d hope he has an adamantium block for 150psi…

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**Author:** ![grindpunk16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9f8e36/32.png) [@grindpunk16](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grindpunk16)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalt-ss/177011/46 "2005-09-13T20:49:51Z")

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the ss is a nice car to drive. when driven right it can haul some ass. ive driven the certain ss a couple times and its fun to drive and handles really really well. the 2.4 verson from what i have heard is they are testing it out then their goal is to do a turbo 2.4 motor. its just rumors but the 2.4verson is pointless right now. heavy platform and not enough power

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**Author:** ![1320](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1320/32/5949_2.png) [@1320](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalt-ss/177011/47 "2005-09-13T20:52:00Z")

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> [@Black Attack tC](#):
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> he upgraded his turbo 🍺

Please tell me you dont actually believe your boy is Pumping 150 Psi through his srt-4?

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**Author:** ![imported\_weaves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bc8723/32.png) [@imported\_weaves](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_weaves)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalt-ss/177011/48 "2005-09-13T20:52:59Z")

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That was a little bit of hyperbole on my part…I think he actually claimed ~30.

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**Author:** ![grandamld9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@grandamld9](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grandamld9)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalt-ss/177011/49 "2005-09-13T20:55:55Z")

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> [@kilmer420](#):
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> scion _boooya_ -all Toss style

GM’s ecotec racing car \> that

[http://www.gm.com/automotive/gmpowertrain/events/racing/index.htm](http://www.gm.com/automotive/gmpowertrain/events/racing/index.htm)

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**Author:** ![The1SloR\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the1slor_t/32/5984_2.png) [@The1SloR\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The1SloR_T)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalt-ss/177011/50 "2005-09-13T20:56:10Z")

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> [@weaves](#):
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> That was a little bit of hyperbole on my part…I think he actually claimed ~30.

still no way

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**Author:** ![Dominator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Dominator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dominator)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalt-ss/177011/51 "2005-09-13T21:04:32Z")

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back to scoffing as using a supercharger. What the hell do you mean when you say.

[QUOTE]it’s a supercharger so it can’t add THAT much boost. it’d blow the engine, would it not?]

Everyone on here will tell you how much better a turbo is for a small displacement engine, but that purely for WOT in powerband performance. The super charger will give you a nice torque increace right off the line instantly. Also a turbo engine at partial throttle will have better fuel econ. They both have pro’s and con’s. When you think of what car companies are doing now a days, it makes perfact cents. They don’t care about cars anymore, they want to make money. 90% of the jackasses that drive a SS and then an SRT-4 will probably remark on how quickly the SS pulled out. Who buys a new car for its potential to be heavily modded? You didn’t. Don’t kid yourself.

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**Author:** ![1320](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1320/32/5949_2.png) [@1320](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalt-ss/177011/52 "2005-09-13T21:07:48Z")

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> [@weaves](#):
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> That was a little bit of hyperbole on my part…I think he actually claimed ~30.

Oh yea, i remember now… Either way unless is a built motor :bsflag:

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**Author:** ![imported\_weaves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bc8723/32.png) [@imported\_weaves](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_weaves)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalt-ss/177011/53 "2005-09-13T21:13:54Z")

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The stock turbo’s way out of its efficiency range after 18 psi, so you can throw the BS flag up for even that.

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**Author:** ![grandamld9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@grandamld9](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grandamld9)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalt-ss/177011/54 "2005-09-13T21:15:27Z")

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> [@Black Attack tC](#):
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> I walked into a GM Dealership today to bs with them about the Cobalt SS. Right away everyone started getting hyped, they couldn’t wait to pop the hood and show me the supercharger…so when they popped the hood and opened it…i raised my eyebrows and dropped my mouth…  
> why is a Supercharger on a 2.0 L Engine? :down:  
> He went on to tell me that there were two cobalt ss engines…  
> a 2.4 L N/A Engine  
> and a 2.0 L Supercharged Engine.  
> I started to laugh :tool:  
> GM can’t even put a Supercharger on the bigger engine?  
> Engineers are retarded…I feel bad for the Cobalt SS now more than ever

The LSJ is a great motor, it will handle more boost then your motor any day of the week.

They could have also put in the 2.0L turbo ecotec that you will find in saabs. I personally cant tell you why they supercharged it, but they must have had a reason. But i would think its b/c they use a 2.0L ecotec in the GM drag car.

> [@Black Attack tC](#):
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> im not majorly bashing the SS, i am blown away that there are two engines for the SS.

The reason there are two motors in the cobalt SS is b/c one is the SS supercharged and one with the normal SS. Just like you might find the trans am, and trans am ws6, or the wrx and wrx sti, and so on.

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**Author:** ![grandamld9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@grandamld9](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grandamld9)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalt-ss/177011/55 "2005-09-13T21:32:26Z")

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> [@Black Attack tC](#):
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> it’s a supercharger so it can’t add THAT much boost. it’d blow the engine, would it not?

The Eaton M62 used on the LSJ is a good s/c. Obvisouly you will reach the efficancy point of a supercharger or a turbocharger. Why do you think people upgrade to bigger turbos and superchargers? So just b/c they used a supercharger doesnt mean its not good, like i said, even a motor that comes stock with a turbo will need the turbo upgraded as you go for high boost levels.

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**Author:** ![Storamin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@Storamin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Storamin)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalt-ss/177011/56 "2005-09-13T23:04:09Z")

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> [@ShalerPunk](#):
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> i’ve seen some scary numbers on ECOTECs…

900+HP ON STOCK INTERNALS!!! :eek4dance

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**Author:** ![grandamld9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@grandamld9](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grandamld9)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 11:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalt-ss/177011/57 "2005-09-13T23:17:15Z")

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> [@Storamin](#):
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> 900+HP ON STOCK INTERNALS!!! :eek4dance

They might be stock parts, but they are all treated to handle that power.

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**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 4:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalt-ss/177011/58 "2005-09-14T04:13:42Z")

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Both you two need to read the book on how much of the stock parts are left on the drag car. They started with a stock motor and started pumping nitrous and boost into it till shit broke. As it broke they replaced it with aftermarket parts and started over again.

TC should probaably look at the book as well since the orginal monster was sleeved from a 2.2 Eco to a 2.0 :rolleyes:

This TC guy is really starting to get on my nerves because its evident he doesn’t know shit except for _maybe_ his own car. There are so many posts I could respind to from him in this thread but a majority of my comments have already been made. So in closing…

Black Attack TC = :tool:

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 4:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalt-ss/177011/59 "2005-09-14T04:51:41Z")

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> [@grandamld9](#):
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> GM’s ecotec racing car \> that
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> [http://www.gm.com/automotive/gmpowertrain/events/racing/index.htm](http://www.gm.com/automotive/gmpowertrain/events/racing/index.htm)

sorry man rados car in the end will smash the ecotecs. he has already gone mid 9’s after just 5 passes in the car. the 533whp dyno sheet is jotech street car scion TC. rado was up over 700whp at 22psi and is now closer to his target boost setting of 43psi the car is near 1500whp

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**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 4:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalt-ss/177011/60 "2005-09-14T04:57:21Z")

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> [@BoostedITR41](#):
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> sorry man rados car in the end will smash the ecotecs. he has already gone mid 9’s after just 5 passes in the car. the 533whp dyno sheet is jotech street car scion TC. rado was up over 700whp at 22psi and is now closer to his target boost setting of 43psi the car is near 1500whp

lol this is going to turn into another bench racing thread curtosy of pittspeed…

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