# Cobalt's Platform....
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702
**Category:** PittSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [March 3, 2005, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702 "2005-03-03T20:43:37Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2005, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/1 "2005-03-03T20:43:37Z")
Blue this was all I was getting at…
> GM had been promising a Cavalier replacement for years, and during those years rumors of a “global” platform called Delta was to underpin it. After many revisions and changes, the “new” Delta platform hit the streets in 2003 as Saturn’s S-Series replacement the ION.
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> While the Delta architecture seemed promising, the ION was developed on the cheap and NVH (Noise, Vibration and Harshness) was poor and its questionable styling kept the ION from being a hit.
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> Chevy showed the Cobalt - Cavalier replacement early 2004. More time was spent keeping engine noise down and quality up. The ION will get all those upgrades for the 2005 model year along with a new nose for the sedan and better feeling interior pieces.
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> The Cobalt SS Supercharged Sedan and Coupe are set to make their formal debut for the 2005 Model Year. Powered by a supercharged ecotec motor, the SS variants of the Cobalt are expected to come packed with 200hp.
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> The Chevrolet HHR (or Heritage High Roof) is set for the 2006 model year and also rides on the Delta architecture.
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> Here are spoken rumors. None are known to be true, take that as our disclaimer.
> \*Possible Pontiac to replace the Sunfire.
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> A list of current known models built on this architecture. Models noted with and asterisk (\*) have not been confirmed by GM.
> Saturn ION
> Chevrolet Cobalt
> Opel Astra
> Pontiac Pursuit (Canada Only)
> Pontiac G4 (Mexico Only)
> Chevrolet HHR
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> The 2003 ION was the first car built on
> the Delta platform
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> The Chevy Cobalt ups the ante with more refinements
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> The Opel Astra uses a modified version of Delta
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> The Chevrolet HHR Makes it’s debut on the '05 show scene
Yup I keep seening it refered to as the DELTA PLATFORM.
Not the OPEL platform…
/point
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### Author:  [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2005, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/2 "2005-03-03T20:49:41Z")
> [@Sight N Sound](#):
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> Blue this was all I was getting at…
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> Yup I keep seening it refered to as the DELTA PLATFORM.
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> Not the OPEL platform…
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> /point
umm… its name is the DELTA platform. OPEL (which is a company, was the designer of it)
wow you’re dense
General Motors designed the “J-Body” platform, but you don’t see them calling it the “GM Platform” do you?
Reading comprehension owns you
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### Author:  [@rrk5485](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rrk5485)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2005, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/3 "2005-03-03T20:49:50Z")
Blue is never wrong…
This can go on forever… :blah:
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### Author:  [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2005, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/4 "2005-03-03T20:53:38Z")
> [@Blue4](#):
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> umm… its name is the DELTA platform.
yeah thank you I only stated this 3 times. I know who desigend it I was originally correcting the proper name of the platform, the you started.
So in essance its the other way around
comprehension \> you.
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### Author:  [@rrk5485](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rrk5485)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2005, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/5 "2005-03-03T20:55:12Z")
Why was my post deleted?
“Jay5750: im always right”
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### Author:  [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2005, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/6 "2005-03-03T20:56:11Z")
> [@rrk5485](#):
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> Why was my post deleted?
in this thread or the other thread that was locked :dunno:
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### Author:  [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2005, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/7 "2005-03-03T20:56:21Z")
> [@Sight N Sound](#):
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> yeah thank you I only stated this 3 times. I know who desigend it I was originally correcting the proper name of the platform, the you started.
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> So in essance its the other way around
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> comprehension \> you.
no i said its called the “Delta Platformed… which was designed by Opel”
the end
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### Author:  [@rrk5485](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rrk5485)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2005, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/8 "2005-03-03T20:56:43Z")
In this thread.
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### Author:  [@rrk5485](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rrk5485)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2005, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/9 "2005-03-03T20:59:20Z")
You both refferred to it as the Delta platform. End of discussion.
Originally Posted by Blue4
Delta was designed by Opel, as was the Ceta, and Sigma
about 80% of GMs new platforms are designed by Opel
point being? its not called the opel platform its called the delta platform.
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### Author:  [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2005, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/10 "2005-03-03T21:02:09Z")
> the cobalt is on an opel platform, its light years beyond the cavi
this is your post.
I corrected it saying the designated platform name was Delta. Then you started with your book of facts…
Can’t you just give up with the know it all rutine. The “I got one up on someone game” you play is getting old.
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### Author:  [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2005, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/11 "2005-03-03T21:06:20Z")
rrk I could go on and on deleting your pointless post.
last warning.
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### Author:  [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2005, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/12 "2005-03-03T21:09:47Z")
> [@Sight N Sound](#):
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> this is your post.
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> I corrected it saying the designated platform name was Delta. Then you started with your book of facts…
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> Can’t you just give up with the know it all rutine. The “I got one up on someone game” you play is getting old.
if a company designs something, its creditted to them.
dont get pissed that the ford boy knew something that you didnt about a car youre in love with
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### Author:  [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2005, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/13 "2005-03-03T21:15:34Z")
> [@Blue4](#):
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> if a company designs something, its creditted to them.
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> dont get pissed that the ford boy knew something that you didnt about a car youre in love with
this is exactly what I’m talking about. I knew Opel made the platform this shit has been knowledge to me prior to talking today to you. I also Knew Opel was a european divison of GM so give it upalready.
You turned me correcting the DESIGATED name of the platform into a fucking pissing match…AS USUAL
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### Author:  [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2005, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/14 "2005-03-03T21:18:01Z")
Opel and GM together, damn learn something each day.
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### Author:  [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2005, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/15 "2005-03-03T21:19:36Z")
> [@SHAG](#):
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> Opel and GM together, damn learn something each day.
actually they are doing a lot together lately, so I may not be totally accurate with that.
(See blue I can admit to shit I’m not sure of and may have mixed up)
EDIT-Scratch that. Opel is a division of GM, its the stuff that happend with the ECO and who was involved with its development that I;m getting confused with…
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### Author:  [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2005, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/16 "2005-03-03T21:24:05Z")
ok
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### Author:  [@Black\_WS6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Black_WS6)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2005, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/17 "2005-03-04T07:39:20Z")
I refer to it as inmyrearviewmirror platform. :dunno:
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### Author:  [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2005, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/18 "2005-03-04T07:45:12Z")
> [@Black\_WS6](#):
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> I refer to it as inmyrearviewmirror platform. :dunno:
in the show car classes?
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### Author:  [@1320](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2005, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/19 "2005-03-04T10:25:24Z")
still a cavi…
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### Author:  [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2005, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/20 "2005-03-04T10:31:59Z")
rofl… i ❤ pittspeed
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