# Cobalt's Platform.... **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [March 3, 2005, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702 "2005-03-03T20:43:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![1320](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1320/32/5949_2.png) [@1320](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2005, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/41 "2005-03-06T20:21:42Z")
> [@Blackvengeance](#): > > Question 1320? How much power you runnin at the wheels? Where you the guy at the Auto show the other week? yup, i was in it… power to the wheels? Dont know… More than 205 and less than 550 … Youre guess is as good as mine. ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2005, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/42 "2005-03-06T20:36:59Z")
“not enough” 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2005, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/43 "2005-03-07T00:03:46Z")
> [@unicorn](#): > > yup, i was in it… power to the wheels? Dont know… More than 205 and less than 550 … Youre guess is as good as mine. 206 ---
**Author:** ![1320](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1320/32/5949_2.png) [@1320](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2005, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/44 "2005-03-07T05:26:09Z")
> [@Blue4](#): > > 206 That means the slobra is making about 199 rwhp then right? 🌑 ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2005, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/45 "2005-03-07T05:58:41Z")
> [@Blackvengeance](#): > > I’ll end all of this for ya. The reason GM went with the 2.0 is for one its based off of the 2.0 that GM races in the drag circuit. In that cicuit your not aloud to have a motor stoke higher than 2.0. Second GM got with Honda to make this motor. So in reality this is a Honda motor cause thats who designed it. Third its not even close to a Cavi 1320 not even close. Its designed better quiter stronger frame and platform more space and looks entirely better than a civic, sentra, corolla that it is made to compete with. I work for C3 Chevy as a salesman and we’ve been sellin them like hot cakes. You can’t tell me civics or corollas or sentras are sellin like that. Chevy has benn the # 1 selling brand in this area for 6yrs. And will continue on doing so with this new car. And also that SS I got to drive and it is a badass car. Its acutlly underated. The HP is actually around 225-230 and 200-205 at the wheels. So don’t think it ain’t fast cause its only 205HP its more. I don’t believe a word of this because you said you are a car salesman 🙂 Post up the sales numbers for the cobalt and compare them to the other competitors, I would like to see this. ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2005, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/46 "2005-03-07T06:23:08Z")
fyi the fucking cobalt wouldn’t start in cold weather and everyone was clueless until it started warming up… way to release an awesome car!!! :rolleyes: car salesmen can go to hell… ---
**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2005, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/47 "2005-03-07T09:31:35Z")
> [@unicorn](#): > > Still a cavy… i feel the same way ---
**Author:** ![DTMVENG24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@DTMVENG24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DTMVENG24)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2005, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/48 "2005-03-07T13:10:54Z")
On the cobalt, are they offering any type of dealer installed upgrades as far as power? And just curious what do the cobalt ss’s run high 14’s? ---
**Author:** ![Blackvengeance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Blackvengeance](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blackvengeance)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2005, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/49 "2005-03-07T20:24:36Z")
The SS runs a 14.9 in the 1/4 mile. Kinda slow actually. But it is torquey as hell and has alot of wheel hop. So traction is kinda a problem. Plus it ways 3880LBS. Heavy as hell too. GM is supposed to come out with dealer options for performance but don’t look for it anytime soon. As far as the guy who said he didn’t believe what I said because I’m a salesman. You don’t have training on Chevy product do you? You don’t take 10 test a year on comparison product to become certified to sell GM product do you? You don’t work around cars 13hrs a day sellin them do you? And you sure don’t have the passion for cars that I do definately. I go to dealer to dealer test driving different product to learn my competition so that I can be a better salesman and deal with idiots like you who know nothin about them. So before you open your pie whole next time sew it shut and take in some knowledge you didn’t know before. Prick! ---
**Author:** ![imported\_weaves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bc8723/32.png) [@imported\_weaves](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_weaves)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2005, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/50 "2005-03-07T20:31:22Z")
WOOOAA you’re way off on the weight. It weighs 3880 LBS w/ 3 fat guys in it. According to the Chevy website it’s 2991 lbs. ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/51 "2005-03-08T06:59:23Z")
3900lbs? no way a 3kgt barely weighs more than that ---
**Author:** ![Blazin\_Si](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2bfe46/32.png) [@Blazin\_Si](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blazin_Si)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/52 "2005-03-08T08:42:54Z")
My friend bought the red SS that was at Baierl. He used to own a 98.5 Contour SVT which is rated at 195hp and the Cobalt is much faster than that car was. And it doesn’t sound too bad for being stock. ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/53 "2005-03-08T08:56:45Z")
> [@Blackvengeance](#): > > Plus it ways 3880LBS. So you’re saying that a Cobalt weighs as much as two and a half Geo Metros? I think not. That would make the Cobalt about a 21 second car. ---
**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/54 "2005-03-08T09:09:51Z")
> [@Blackvengeance](#): > > As far as the guy who said he didn’t believe what I said because I’m a salesman. You don’t have training on Chevy product do you? You don’t take 10 test a year on comparison product to become certified to sell GM product do you? You don’t work around cars 13hrs a day sellin them do you? And you sure don’t have the passion for cars that I do definately. I go to dealer to dealer test driving different product to learn my competition so that I can be a better salesman and deal with idiots like you who know nothin about them. So before you open your pie whole next time sew it shut and take in some knowledge you didn’t know before. Prick! i’m not saying anything about your knowledge, but i have been to many dealerships & carshows where the salesmen didn’t know shit…and jut like your argument says…your around the stuff all day…can’t they pick up a book or a brochure? ---
**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/55 "2005-03-08T09:11:26Z")
> [@Blazin Si](#): > > My friend bought the red SS that was at Baierl. He used to own a 98.5 Contour SVT interesting switch SVT to cobolt SS…i know if i was buy another new car the SS would even be on my list…but to each his own. ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/56 "2005-03-08T09:16:38Z")
> [@showtime](#): > > i’m not saying anything about your knowledge, but i have been to many dealerships & carshows where the salesmen didn’t know shit…and jut like your argument says…your around the stuff all day…can’t they pick up a book or a brochure? haha… like the guy up at Baierl who tried to tell me the Aveo had the same motor as the Cavalier… BTW, I like the ECOTEC Cavalier better than the Cobalt. And Cobalt is a gay name for an overpriced J-body replacement. Do they even offer an SVP Cobalt? ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/57 "2005-03-09T07:42:04Z")
> [@Blackvengeance](#): > > As far as the guy who said he didn’t believe what I said because I’m a salesman. You don’t have training on Chevy product do you? You don’t take 10 test a year on comparison product to become certified to sell GM product do you? You don’t work around cars 13hrs a day sellin them do you? And you sure don’t have the passion for cars that I do definately. I go to dealer to dealer test driving different product to learn my competition so that I can be a better salesman and deal with idiots like you who know nothin about them. So before you open your pie whole next time sew it shut and take in some knowledge you didn’t know before. Prick! passion for cars?? you are on a website devoted to cars and you come on here and tell us we don’t care, fuck off salesman prick. We all know a shitload about cars on this site and we have all the bases covered. old school cars, new cars, imports, domestics. You know 1 line of cars so again, STFU n00b ps. where do you live in Whitehall, I grew up there. And I live right behind c3 chevy, maybe i’ll stop down and beat the fuck out of, err, test drive a few cars sometime. ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/58 "2005-03-09T07:54:31Z")
> [@Blackvengeance](#): > > The SS runs a 14.9 in the 1/4 mile. Kinda slow actually. But it is torquey as hell and has alot of wheel hop. **So traction is kinda a problem.** Plus it ways 3880LBS. Heavy as hell too. GM is supposed to come out with dealer options for performance but don’t look for it anytime soon. > > As far as the guy who said he didn’t believe what I said because I’m a salesman. You don’t have training on Chevy product do you? You don’t take 10 test a year on comparison product to become certified to sell GM product do you? You don’t work around cars 13hrs a day sellin them do you? **And you sure don’t have the passion for cars that I do definately.** I go to dealer to dealer test driving different product to learn my competition so that I can be a better salesman and deal with idiots like you who know nothin about them. So before you open your pie whole next time sew it shut and take in some knowledge you didn’t know before. Prick! 1. you’re way full of shit… just because the car sucks dick, doesn’t mean you have to claim traction problems… every stcok car wheels hops, it’s becuase they have cushy mounts for the average consumer, but you’re a super dooper auto enthusist, so you knew this. 2. DIAF… you suck… don’t ever tell someone on this board that they don’t have a passion for cars… you’re beat… :madfawk: ---
**Author:** ![Blackvengeance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Blackvengeance](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blackvengeance)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/59 "2005-03-09T10:45:02Z")
The combined GVWR on the car is 3880 on the door on the one in our showroom. So thats what I’m goin by. As far as mr. redneck and fshowcars goes I’ll retract my previous statement that you don’t love cars as much as me. That is what this forum is for. Yet it still doen’t change the fact that your stereotyping pricks. ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702/60 "2005-03-09T10:50:45Z")
> [@Blackvengeance](#): > > The combined GVWR on the car is 3880 on the door on the one in our showroom. So thats what I’m goin by. > > As far as mr. redneck and fshowcars goes I’ll retract my previous statement that you don’t love cars as much as me. That is what this forum is for. Yet it still doen’t change the fact that your stereotyping pricks. for someone who is sooooo passionate about cars, do you know what the sticker on the door means? maybe your super duper gm classes can help out, go take them again n00b. [autos.msn.com](http://autos.msn.com) has curb weight at 2991 for the manual [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobalts-platform/172702.md?page=4)