# Cobra or Viper

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobra-or-viper/6289>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [January 1, 2006, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobra-or-viper/6289 "2006-01-01T12:14:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![87FOXGT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ecd19e/32.png) [@87FOXGT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87FOXGT)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2006, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobra-or-viper/6289/21 "2006-01-01T13:23:34Z")

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CCWs = drool

![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/87FOXGT/viperccw.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/87FOXGT/viperccw.jpg)

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**Author:** ![gsx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gsx/32/7277_2.png) [@gsx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/gsx)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2006, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobra-or-viper/6289/22 "2006-01-01T13:36:24Z")

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keep the cobra…unless you get a gts style viper…why?..becasue the rear end on the rt/10 looks kinda gay…plus your cobra will be awesome when completed…

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**Author:** ![Final\_GTS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/final_gts/32/7359_2.png) [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2006, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobra-or-viper/6289/23 "2006-01-01T13:39:12Z")

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lol… I dont think I have to even put my opinion in here.

And as far as insurance goes: The Viper is not a “blacklisted” car due to low production numbers overall. SOME companies will not insure them, but they are few and far between. I personally have used Progressive and Geico, and pay about 1400/Yr on my SRT for full coverage w/glass and all the do-dads… My record is completely clean however. On my GTS it was the same, and that was when I was 18. It should be less for Mike, I think he is 26- which is over the hump for insurance rates.

I do strongly recomend driving ALL model Vipers before you make a final decision which one to go with. If you can go to 60K, you have your pick up to a used 2003. They are all different. Gen-1 is a brute… more finicky, little more grunt on the lower end, LOVES to turn them over and slap you upside the head at a moments notice. Gen-2 is a little more refined, with power windows, nicer interior, etc, as well as the GTS being available. Gets a slight revamp again in 99 for both models…“Creampuff” cars begin in 2000, powerband moved slightly up, NGR goes away. ABS comes in 2001, then SRT in 2003.

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**Author:** ![Final\_GTS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/final_gts/32/7359_2.png) [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2006, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobra-or-viper/6289/24 "2006-01-01T13:48:17Z")

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PS- Feel free to drop by today or tomorrow… I have nothing to do until Tuesday when all my contacts open back up after the holidays. You can see first hand how exactly these things are put together. I doubt you will ever see one in as many peices as mine currently is. Even though the car is different from Gen1/2/3, the philosophy and building style remains unchanged.

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2006, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobra-or-viper/6289/25 "2006-01-01T14:15:31Z")

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> [@Final GTS](#):
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> I personally have used Progressive and Geico, and pay about 1400/Yr on my SRT for full coverage w/glass and all the do-dads…

Dammit I hate being \<25. That’s what I pay for full coverage on my Jetta with Progressive.

IMO, “I Built This”\>\>\>“I Threw Down A Wad Of Cash For This” So I would keep the Mustang if I were making the choice.

But whoever brought up the financial differences had a very good point. I can’t imagine that a used Viper will lose much of any value over a couple more years, whereas a modded Mustang will likely only depreciate at about the same rate as any other car.

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**Author:** ![neurokinetik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neurokinetik/32/7270_2.png) [@neurokinetik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neurokinetik)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2006, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobra-or-viper/6289/26 "2006-01-01T14:25:37Z")

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Choice C: Get a real Cobra… a Shelby Cobra. 😛

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**Author:** ![redrum](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redrum/32/7398_2.png) [@redrum](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/redrum)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2006, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobra-or-viper/6289/27 "2006-01-01T14:39:52Z")

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i think a viper would get you a lot more attention from people who arent into cars.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2006, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobra-or-viper/6289/28 "2006-01-01T14:51:08Z")

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House would be the best investment

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**Author:** ![mike125k](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike125k/32/7282_2.png) [@mike125k](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mike125k)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2006, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobra-or-viper/6289/29 "2006-01-01T14:59:06Z")

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What about the new GT500 Cobra? Those are going to be really nice when they come out, or so I hear (I have a friend who works for SVT on brake development on the new GT500).

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**Author:** ![1sik\_bmw](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1sik_bmw/32/7341_2.png) [@1sik\_bmw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1sik_bmw)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2006, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobra-or-viper/6289/30 "2006-01-01T15:05:57Z")

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> [@redrum](#):
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> i think a viper would get you a lot more attention from people who arent into cars.

but the mustang will get you more attention from people who are in to (modding) cars.

But like i said before i still think the vipers resale will still be 704884x better, IMO

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**Author:** ![87FOXGT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ecd19e/32.png) [@87FOXGT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87FOXGT)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2006, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobra-or-viper/6289/31 "2006-01-01T15:06:39Z")

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> [@Final GTS](#):
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> lol… I dont think I have to even put my opinion in here.
> 
> And as far as insurance goes: The Viper is not a “blacklisted” car due to low production numbers overall. SOME companies will not insure them, but they are few and far between. I personally have used Progressive and Geico, and pay about 1400/Yr on my SRT for full coverage w/glass and all the do-dads… My record is completely clean however. On my GTS it was the same, and that was when I was 18. It should be less for Mike, I think he is 26- which is over the hump for insurance rates.
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> I do strongly recomend driving ALL model Vipers before you make a final decision which one to go with. If you can go to 60K, you have your pick up to a used 2003. They are all different. Gen-1 is a brute… more finicky, little more grunt on the lower end, LOVES to turn them over and slap you upside the head at a moments notice. Gen-2 is a little more refined, with power windows, nicer interior, etc, as well as the GTS being available. Gets a slight revamp again in 99 for both models…“Creampuff” cars begin in 2000, powerband moved slightly up, NGR goes away. ABS comes in 2001, then SRT in 2003.

Thanks Dan. Yeah I am not too worried about insurance. I think I still have one red light ticket on my record from a few years ago, but that should be gone real soon. Like you said I am in a better insurance bracket, so I think I should have no problems here.

Now as far as getting a gen3. Well no offense, I just prefer the looks of the Gen2 over the Gen3. I have no doubts that the gen3 is a more refined, faster, better all around viper but I think a gen2 will suite me just fine. I think i am prety set on an 01 or 02. But i would consider a 99-00 if it had super low miles and was a great deal and the color i wanted. I love the newer stle hood on the gen 2s with the vents and the triangular opening in the front.

> [@Final GTS](#):
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> ```
> PS- Feel free to drop by today or tomorrow... I have nothing to do until Tuesday when all my contacts open back up after the holidays. You can see first hand how exactly these things are put together. I doubt you will ever see one in as many peices as mine currently is. Even though the car is different from Gen1/2/3, the philosophy and building style remains unchanged.
> 
> ```

I’ll probably be out at mark’s, if i drop out there il get your number from him and give you a call and maybe drop down. :tup:

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**Author:** ![87FOXGT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ecd19e/32.png) [@87FOXGT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87FOXGT)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2006, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobra-or-viper/6289/32 "2006-01-01T15:16:43Z")

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> [@mike125k](#):
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> What about the new GT500 Cobra? Those are going to be really nice when they come out, or so I hear (I have a friend who works for SVT on brake development on the new GT500).

They just dont do it for me looks wise. Nice drivetrain in them though. :tup:

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2006, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobra-or-viper/6289/33 "2006-01-01T15:20:11Z")

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Get the Viper and be slower :tup:

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**Author:** ![IROC-Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iroc-z/32/7389_2.png) [@IROC-Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IROC-Z)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2006, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobra-or-viper/6289/34 "2006-01-01T15:30:21Z")

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I say keep the Cobra. Can’t beat the sound of those things. Motor and exhaust.

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**Author:** ![neurokinetik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neurokinetik/32/7270_2.png) [@neurokinetik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neurokinetik)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2006, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobra-or-viper/6289/35 "2006-01-01T15:54:29Z")

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BTW, you should pick up the latest issue of Grassroots Motorsports… They have a detailed buyer’s guide for Vipers, which details all of the changes and options from year to year.

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**Author:** ![87FOXGT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ecd19e/32.png) [@87FOXGT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87FOXGT)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2006, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobra-or-viper/6289/36 "2006-01-01T16:01:50Z")

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> [@FormulaLS1](#):
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> Get the Viper and be slower :tup:

You’d like that wouldnt you :lol:

Neurokinetik thanks for the tip. Where can I buy it?

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2006, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobra-or-viper/6289/37 "2006-01-01T16:03:44Z")

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hmmm… it’s a toughy…

most people will tell you to keep the cobra and you will buy the viper. It may be slower, but you already know you want it… so just get it.

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**Author:** ![Freek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freek/32/7357_2.png) [@Freek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Freek)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2006, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobra-or-viper/6289/38 "2006-01-01T16:06:42Z")

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Mike in your first post you summed up everything … with a big :word: the cobra is hot but it’s not a viper … that one would be hot … as long as you changed the interior color

EDIT: CCW 505’s are pimp i might pick up a pair soon

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**Author:** ![neurokinetik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neurokinetik/32/7270_2.png) [@neurokinetik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neurokinetik)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2006, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobra-or-viper/6289/39 "2006-01-01T16:21:52Z")

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> [@87FOXGT](#):
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> You’d like that wouldnt you :lol:
> 
> Neurokinetik thanks for the tip. Where can I buy it?

Barnes & Noble should have it. If not them, then the Border’s by the Galleria will have it.

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**Author:** ![rskrause](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rskrause/32/7367_2.png) [@rskrause](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rskrause)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2006, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cobra-or-viper/6289/40 "2006-01-01T16:27:43Z")

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It seems like apples to oranges to me. The cars are quite different, so I guess it’s a personal choice. Besides, I don’t like Vipers, it’s hard for to me to se it as much of a dilemma. I think of the Viper is a Z06 or Porsche 911 competitor while the Cobra really doesn’t have any direct competitors except maybe some of the Hemi powered DC offerings. if I was in the market for a Viper type car, I’d take a Z06 over any old day. Comparable performance and far more practical. But it’s not me.

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