# Colgan Air Q400 crashes outside of Buffalo, NY **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [February 12, 2009, 11:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/colgan-air-q400-crashes-outside-of-buffalo-ny/242077 "2009-02-12T23:56:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 11:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/colgan-air-q400-crashes-outside-of-buffalo-ny/242077/1 "2009-02-12T23:56:17Z")
And killed all 48 passengers and crew on board:( I’m sitting next to the captain that flew the SAME plane earlier today and nothing was wrong with it at that time… RIP. There is a chance that this will take even more jobs from the Capital Region. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/colgan-air-q400-crashes-outside-of-buffalo-ny/242077/2 "2009-02-13T00:01:37Z")
i just read about this. thats crazy. terrible accident. any leak on the cause yet? link. > **[NTSB: Crew reported ice buildup before crash](http://www.nbcnews.com/id/29173163/?gt1=43001)** > > The crew of a commuter plane that fell out of the sky, killing all 49 people aboard and one person on the ground, noticed significant ice buildup on the wings and windshield just before the plane began pitching and rolling violently, investigators... ---
**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/colgan-air-q400-crashes-outside-of-buffalo-ny/242077/3 "2009-02-13T00:06:03Z")
> [@How many beersz is in a keg?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-beersz-is-in-a-keg/14034/12): > > i just read about this. thats crazy. terrible accident. > > any leak on the cause yet? > > link. > > [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29173163/?gt1=43001](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29173163/?gt1=43001) Our guess right now is icing (causing it to stall). ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/colgan-air-q400-crashes-outside-of-buffalo-ny/242077/4 "2009-02-13T00:08:01Z")
my guess is internal engine failure, from reading it seems they were to high to ingest anything when the problem occured. its terrible when a plane crashes. unless youve been involved in aviation, you dont fully understand what goes on after. maintenance operations shut down. all your logs, tool records, maintence portfolios. workcenter track logs, all confiscated and inspected by the FAA or other inspecting body. maintenance action form signoff’s TD compliance, AFB, AFC compliance, daily inspection and turn around inspections, pre and post flight. usually they check the flight log for that side number up to 3 months prior to check for recurring issues… its intense saw your Icing reference… very possible at that altitude, airspeed and temperature. ---
**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/colgan-air-q400-crashes-outside-of-buffalo-ny/242077/5 "2009-02-13T00:08:56Z")
> [@Mk4 30R"](#): > > my guess is internal engine failure, from reading it seems they were to high to ingest anything when the problem occured. > > its terrible when a plane crashes. unless youve been involved in aviation, you dont fully understand what goes on after. maintenance operations shut down. all your logs, tool records, maintence portfolios. workcenter track logs, all confiscated and inspected by the FAA or other inspecting body. maintenance action form signoff’s TD compliance, AFB, AFC compliance, daily inspection and turn around inspections, pre and post flight. usually they check the flight log for that side number up to 3 months prior to check for recurring issues… its intense It would have glided in if it was an engine failure. This one pretty much nose dived. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 12:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/colgan-air-q400-crashes-outside-of-buffalo-ny/242077/6 "2009-02-13T00:10:28Z")
> [@How many beersz is in a keg?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-many-beersz-is-in-a-keg/14034/13): > > It would have glided in if it was an engine failure. This one pretty much nose dived. leading edge icing, loss of flap/ slat function… not familiar with the configuration of that jet, but do they use multi plane flaps or single? ---
**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 12:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/colgan-air-q400-crashes-outside-of-buffalo-ny/242077/7 "2009-02-13T00:10:54Z")
> [@Mk4 30R"](#): > > my guess is internal engine failure, from reading it seems they were to high to ingest anything when the problem occured. > > its terrible when a plane crashes. unless youve been involved in aviation, you dont fully understand what goes on after. maintenance operations shut down. all your logs, tool records, maintence portfolios. workcenter track logs, all confiscated and inspected by the FAA or other inspecting body. maintenance action form signoff’s TD compliance, AFB, AFC compliance, daily inspection and turn around inspections, pre and post flight. usually they check the flight log for that side number up to 3 months prior to check for recurring issues… its intense > > saw your Icing reference… very possible at that altitude, airspeed and temperature. Check your PM’s…the notifications on this site for PM’s kinda blow. ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/colgan-air-q400-crashes-outside-of-buffalo-ny/242077/8 "2009-02-13T00:11:25Z")
> [@Quaife](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/quaife/14043/2): > > Check your PM’s…the notifications on this site for PM’s kinda blow. just got it, replied. ---
**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 12:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/colgan-air-q400-crashes-outside-of-buffalo-ny/242077/9 "2009-02-13T00:14:11Z")
> [@Mk4 30R"](#): > > leading edge icing, loss of flap/ slat function… not familiar with the configuration of that jet, but do they use multi plane flaps or single? I’ve never worked on one, but I’m guessing that it’s single. Colgan got their first Q400 the day that I quit.