# Commence the hunt: Pre-OBD2 car

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**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [August 4, 2012, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/commence-the-hunt-pre-obd2-car/264606 "2012-08-04T00:36:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/commence-the-hunt-pre-obd2-car/264606/1 "2012-08-04T00:36:14Z")

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I’ve started to look into what I want to find when I get back and typically the good deals and nice cars pop up when you are not in immediate need to buy a new car so I was hoping for some help.

I have a small shopping list and if anyone spots one of these cars for sale for a good deal over the next few months please let me know:

Mercedes Benz Cosworth 190e  
2nd Gen MR2 (turbo)  
Integra Type-R (unmolested)  
E36 M3 (2 door or coupe)  
3rd Gen Rx7 (no swaps)  
E31 850i/ci  
E30 M3  
Skyline R33 (legal, any trim)

again, i’m not looking for a particular price on any of these and I know I have a huge range in values (especially to the highest trim and best condition). What I am really looking for is a good value for the money whatever the amount is.

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**Author:** ![Jeremiah](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeremiah/32/6318_2.png) [@Jeremiah](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeremiah)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/commence-the-hunt-pre-obd2-car/264606/2 "2012-08-04T05:51:42Z")

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> [@FR: Studio apt in Tonawanda $375/MO includes ALL](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fr-studio-apt-in-tonawanda-375-mo-includes-all/50240/8):
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> Mercedes Benz Cosworth 190e

If I spot a Cosworth 190e for sale for a good deal…I’ll let you know good I feel about buying it lol.

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/commence-the-hunt-pre-obd2-car/264606/3 "2012-08-04T06:10:56Z")

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I think the best value out of anything you’ve listed based on current market pricing would be the E36 M3.

Any reason specifically for pre-OBD2?

Your price range looks to be $5k-$40k lol.

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**Author:** ![AVB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avb/32/6751_2.png) [@AVB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AVB)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/commence-the-hunt-pre-obd2-car/264606/4 "2012-08-04T06:19:24Z")

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Here is decent priced rx7 for sale. Not alot of info though.  
[http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/cto/3181445975.html](http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/cto/3181445975.html)

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**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/commence-the-hunt-pre-obd2-car/264606/5 "2012-08-04T06:46:42Z")

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id love a type r to bomb around in

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**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/commence-the-hunt-pre-obd2-car/264606/6 "2012-08-04T07:37:31Z")

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> [@who has ice time](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-has-ice-time/50324/5):
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> If I spot a Cosworth 190e for sale for a good deal…I’ll let you know good I feel about buying it lol.

2 on ebay right now, but I won’t be buying an ebay car unless I’m home.

> [@Crankcase Ventilation](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/crankcase-ventilation/44531/26):
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> I think the best value out of anything you’ve listed based on current market pricing would be the E36 M3.
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> Any reason specifically for pre-OBD2?
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> Your price range looks to be $5k-$40k lol.

Pre-OBD2 just happens to be the cars I like. Had the honda, had the subaru, had the E36 325i. Now need to own these ones to taste the rest of the lot.

And yes, price range is in fact $5-$40k. 😉

> [@DONE! THANKS](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/done-thanks/46736/36):
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> Here is decent priced rx7 for sale. Not alot of info though.  
> [http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/cto/3181445975.html](http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/cto/3181445975.html)

Yea, not a fan of that ad. There was one on ebay with 16,000 original miles for somewhere around $16k. I wish i was home I would have flown out to look at it.

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**Author:** ![Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hang_your_cross/32/6381_2.png) [@Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hang_Your_Cross)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/commence-the-hunt-pre-obd2-car/264606/7 "2012-08-04T12:00:06Z")

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ITR’s are not pre-obd2…

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**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/commence-the-hunt-pre-obd2-car/264606/8 "2012-08-04T12:17:05Z")

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I suppose you are right. Now that the trend has been broken I should add the Mitsubishi Evo VI to the list as well.

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/commence-the-hunt-pre-obd2-car/264606/9 "2012-08-04T13:06:09Z")

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Keep in mind if you go w/ an EVO VI, you’ll need to swap an EVO VIII ECU in it so you have OBDII for inspection.

Good luck finding someone selling a legit bond-released R33 GTR or EVO VI though. People are holding onto the GTRs.

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**Author:** ![ReDevil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redevil/32/6385_2.png) [@ReDevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ReDevil)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/commence-the-hunt-pre-obd2-car/264606/10 "2012-08-04T18:56:55Z")

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> Mercedes Benz Cosworth 190e

Have a 93 190e auto sitting at the top of my driveway lol Its my Dads car, make an offer! Black on tan leather, solid body, runs a bit rough at cold, and shifts like a race car when it feels like it.

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**Author:** ![GD3Skier](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gd3skier/32/6400_2.png) [@GD3Skier](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GD3Skier)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/commence-the-hunt-pre-obd2-car/264606/11 "2012-08-04T20:45:38Z")

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Clean looking MR2 not sure what they usually go for so I dunno if 12K is a bit pricey.

[http://westernmass.craigslist.org/cto/3110499885.html](http://westernmass.craigslist.org/cto/3110499885.html)

87 190e for $11900 again not sure about what a fair price is lol

[http://albany.craigslist.org/cto/3151465107.html](http://albany.craigslist.org/cto/3151465107.html)

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/commence-the-hunt-pre-obd2-car/264606/12 "2012-08-04T21:03:40Z")

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I know a guy with a 190e 16v, I highly doubt he would ever sell it though haha… I’ll put the word out for you though, he works for a company in NC that remanufactures MB electronics and might know of a car somewhere

Sent from my fecal collecting throne

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/commence-the-hunt-pre-obd2-car/264606/13 "2012-08-04T21:12:50Z")

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> [@This guy has serious skillz with the car noises](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-guy-has-serious-skillz-with-the-car-noises/50313/9):
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> Clean looking MR2 not sure what they usually go for so I dunno if 12K is a bit pricey.
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> [http://westernmass.craigslist.org/cto/3110499885.html](http://westernmass.craigslist.org/cto/3110499885.html)
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> 87 190e for $11900 again not sure about what a fair price is lol
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> [http://albany.craigslist.org/cto/3151465107.html](http://albany.craigslist.org/cto/3151465107.html)

That 190e was 6k, I tried to buy it and it had already sold. Good to see some asshat flipping it :facepalm got the Slk instead, so I guess it worked out lol

Now that I actually read it, says he had it 12 years, so it was one that looked just like that and also 5spd

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/commence-the-hunt-pre-obd2-car/264606/14 "2012-08-04T21:23:30Z")

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actually, the cars to get, 190e 16v, and bmw 2002. yeah buddy.

also ITR.

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/commence-the-hunt-pre-obd2-car/264606/15 "2012-08-04T21:37:56Z")

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> [@garage floor epoxy](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/garage-floor-epoxy/50357/2):
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> That 190e was 6k, I tried to buy it and it had already sold. Good to see some asshat flipping it :facepalm got the Slk instead, so I guess it worked out lol
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> Now that I actually read it, says he had it 12 years, so it was one that looked just like that and also 5spd

Could just be a lying asshat as well lol.

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 4:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/commence-the-hunt-pre-obd2-car/264606/16 "2012-08-05T04:53:01Z")

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> [@5.0 guys come in](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/5-0-guys-come-in/50351/12):
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> actually, the cars to get, 190e 16v, and bmw 2002. yeah buddy.
> 
> also ITR.

Speaking of BMW '02’s, I have an all original '72 2002tii I’m looking to sell if you know anyone interested 🙂

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/commence-the-hunt-pre-obd2-car/264606/17 "2012-08-05T07:46:59Z")

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Theres an old bmw 850i sitting behind ASS that’s neils and is def forsale. Call albany speed for details I suppose. Or pm me

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/commence-the-hunt-pre-obd2-car/264606/18 "2012-08-05T08:29:50Z")

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You will be disappointed with a 190e 2.3-16v. I’d go for the E36 M3 or Mr2.

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**Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/commence-the-hunt-pre-obd2-car/264606/19 "2012-08-06T07:46:34Z")

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87 RX7 NA 90Kmi (irc) mint, stored inside, adult owned and unmolested. $2500 A retired autobody guy that stopps by the shop time to time has it.

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**Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/commence-the-hunt-pre-obd2-car/264606/20 "2012-08-06T08:34:01Z")

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> [@Whitest Kids U' You Know](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/whitest-kids-u-you-know/50338/3):
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> Keep in mind if you go w/ an EVO VI, you’ll need to swap an EVO VIII ECU in it so you have OBDII for inspection.
> 
> Good luck finding someone selling a legit bond-released R33 GTR or EVO VI though. People are holding onto the GTRs.

I think I found an R33 in miami for a decent price. Any tips on ensuring it has the correct paperwork? They said federally titled which I think is a good thing but I’m not tracking “bond-released”

Also tracking the EVO ecu thing, that’s not a problem. They are tough to find though.

> [@Anybody up for a cruise?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-up-for-a-cruise/50355/3):
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> Have a 93 190e auto sitting at the top of my driveway lol Its my Dads car, make an offer! Black on tan leather, solid body, runs a bit rough at cold, and shifts like a race car when it feels like it.

Sorry, looking for manual trans for all cars.

> [@This guy has serious skillz with the car noises](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-guy-has-serious-skillz-with-the-car-noises/50313/9):
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> Clean looking MR2 not sure what they usually go for so I dunno if 12K is a bit pricey.
> 
> [http://westernmass.craigslist.org/cto/3110499885.html](http://westernmass.craigslist.org/cto/3110499885.html)
> 
> 87 190e for $11900 again not sure about what a fair price is lol
> 
> [http://albany.craigslist.org/cto/3151465107.html](http://albany.craigslist.org/cto/3151465107.html)

That MR2 is clean as hell, but priced a tad high for even a mint one. 190e is way overpriced.

> [@Anybody up for a cruise?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-up-for-a-cruise/50355/5):
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> Theres an old bmw 850i sitting behind ASS that’s neils and is def forsale. Call albany speed for details I suppose. Or pm me

i and not ci? Do you know what shape its in? I found a low mileage i in the buffalo area but it’s auto… .I need to research if they even came in 5spd. If not, that car would be off the list.

> [@FS: Plantronics Pulsar 260 Stereo BT headset - $40](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-plantronics-pulsar-260-stereo-bt-headset-40/50374/2):
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> 87 RX7 NA 90Kmi (irc) mint, stored inside, adult owned and unmolested. $2500 A retired autobody guy that stopps by the shop time to time has it.

I don’t like the 2nd gen boxy style at all and really dont want an NA one.

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