# Compare: ICs **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [June 3, 2009, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/compare-ics/244552 "2009-06-03T15:25:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![1320-20V](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1320-20v/32/6474_2.png) [@1320-20V](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320-20V)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/compare-ics/244552/21 "2009-06-04T09:54:57Z")
Proper endtank: ![http://www.201motorsports.com/images/P/APSDR525FrontMountIntercooler.jpg](http://www.201motorsports.com/images/P/APSDR525FrontMountIntercooler.jpg) Not so good end-tank: ![http://image.turbomagazine.com/f/9020784/turp_0704_07z+nissan_sentra_ser_spec_v+intercooler.jpg](http://image.turbomagazine.com/f/9020784/turp_0704_07z+nissan_sentra_ser_spec_v+intercooler.jpg) horrible: ![http://www.made-in-china.com/image/4f0j00avIQfgjWIRrKM/Intercooler.jpg](http://www.made-in-china.com/image/4f0j00avIQfgjWIRrKM/Intercooler.jpg) Ideal: ![http://image.gmhightechperformance.com/f/17598537/0903gmhtp_21_z+2008_pontiac_g8_gt_procharger_ho_intercooled_supercharger_system_install+bolting_intercooler_infront_of_the_ac_condenser.jpg](http://image.gmhightechperformance.com/f/17598537/0903gmhtp_21_z+2008_pontiac_g8_gt_procharger_ho_intercooled_supercharger_system_install+bolting_intercooler_infront_of_the_ac_condenser.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/compare-ics/244552/22 "2009-06-04T10:10:58Z")
Nerds ---
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/compare-ics/244552/23 "2009-06-04T11:15:06Z")
> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/18913/13): > > Garrett core all day long. bar and plate, high FPI count. > > and for heat exchangers/turbines on my aircraft, they were all Garrett- **Honeywell** , imagine that. Honeywell = Secan Vendome šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/compare-ics/244552/24 "2009-06-04T15:16:01Z")
I havenā€™t had time to post in here so lets back up a bit starting with this one here. Your close to being accurate but I must point out a few other points. > [@Say hello to....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/say-hello-to/18843/12): > > I would say neither. > > What is an inter cooler anyway? that should be your first question to yourself. An inter cooler is a heat exchanger, a device whoā€™s science is based on fluid mechanics, and heat transfer. > > Ideally you would want the intercooler to shed as much heat as possible while maintaining the inlet air temperature and airflow , and via math I will not make your head explode with, the intake charge will approach ambient under ideal conditions. > > What makes a core superior to another is two things. > > 1. Turbulatorsno, the more correct term would be ā€œinternal surface areaā€ > > 2. Pressure drop. > > 3ā€¦ > > 4ā€¦ > > 1. Turbulators are the fins INSIDE the intercooler. they create intentional turbulence. This makes sure that all of the charge air is tumbling so that it can make contact with the walls of the intercooler. If there were no turbulators, the air on the walls would remain there, and the air flowing thru the center would shed very little heat making the IC useless. **Turbulence is critical.** no, no, no, no. contact with the sides is critical, surface area is therefore critical, turbulence is NOT. > > 2. Pressure drop: the turbulators cause high shear stress in the fluid, so it does take some energy to push that thru the turbulent core. which in return creates more heat both from the turbo having more resistance to it and the turbulence it it self, no? Ok, I maybe its a nearly unnoticeable amount but the point that I am making is that simple physics can show us that your not using the best wording here. With a given cross sectional area, **more turbulence causes better cooling** , again, your close, but using completely the wrong terms. its surface area and the airā€™s contact patch with it. turbulance is airflow restriction any way that you look at it. but causes a higher pressure drop.bingo Therefore with dense turbulators you will need a slightly bigger core for the same pressure drop as a ā€œcheapoā€ core, but your delta-T will be much higher. This is a good thing. A good thing to what extent? there is a point where the balance of temperature vs airflow will tip. Where is this line? in other words if I get 32\* air going to my intake manifold but at the cost of having 1/2" charge piping is that beneficial? > > **I want to clarify before this next part. My core is NOT as efficient at cooling as more expensive cores such as garrettā€™s.** However the recent reconstruction of my IC was to improve its airflow and shorten the charge piping by a matter of feet therefore increasing my spool time. > > If i were you, I would spend my money on a high quality core, from Garrett, or Bell, or Precision. Im not sure about what is going on inside the precision, but it looks to be an engineered product. > > A good rule of thumb: If the fins on the outside look like they have crappy manufacturing quality, so do the fins on the inside. Your core #1 looks to be of much higher quality than your core #2. > this is a bit curious, I specifically picked the pictures so that you canā€™t see the cores or fins in order to keep the discussion on the end tanks > > And neither endtank design looks very good. > on to part II > > Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![1320-20V](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1320-20v/32/6474_2.png) [@1320-20V](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320-20V)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/compare-ics/244552/25 "2009-06-04T20:53:28Z")
you would have been better off google-ing the words i used and you did not understand than proving to everyone that you donā€™t understand. I will however attempt to explain it to you in detail. Fluids such as liquids and gasses cannot support a static shear stress. This is what makes the fluids. Solid things can withstand stress in the shearing direction. Viscosity is the time rate of shear strain. It is a measure of how quickly a fluid will move to avoid the shearing stress. For example molasses has a high viscocity, if you put a stick in it it will SLOWLY fall over. Water has less viscosity, and the stick will fall over faster. Air has way less viscosity, but it does still exist. Knowing this we can begin to talk about laminar flow, velocity distribution, and the boundary layer. Are you aware that the oxygen molecule attached to the side of the inter cooler will not detach from the metal until the air reaches a supersonic velocity? This is called the ā€œboundry layerā€. In a laminar flow, with a subsonic velocity, the velocity of the fluid at the wall of the intercooler is zero. The velocity in the center of the tube is the maximum. The distribution is parabolic. As shown below: Normal to flow in rectangular section: ![http://www.myoops.org/twocw/mit/NR/rdonlyres/Chemical-Engineering/10-34Fall-2005/F7FFD9D1-AA84-44FD-8EE9-1846046BDD51/0/chp_ductvelocity.jpg](http://www.myoops.org/twocw/mit/NR/rdonlyres/Chemical-Engineering/10-34Fall-2005/F7FFD9D1-AA84-44FD-8EE9-1846046BDD51/0/chp_ductvelocity.jpg) Perpendicular to flow: ![http://www.freshgasflow.com/images/physics_images/flow_images/basics/laminar_turbulent_flow.gif](http://www.freshgasflow.com/images/physics_images/flow_images/basics/laminar_turbulent_flow.gif) You will note that in a laminar flow (laminar means not turbulent) , the air in the center of the tube NEVER touches the sides of the intercooler, and therefore will transfer no heat. That hot air just goes right down the tube and comes out the other side. No heat is exchanged. Now in the TURBULENT flow depicted above, the air is swirling around and each air molecule will come in contact with the walls. That molecule will then transfer heat to the wall when in direct contact. This is how an intercooler WORKS. This is what it is supposed to do. Turbulators force the airflow to be turbulent. They literally disturb the air, making it NOT laminar, so that it does exchange heat with the walls. ![http://www.max-boost.co.uk/max-boost/images/supra/intake/SMIC_core_inside.jpg](http://www.max-boost.co.uk/max-boost/images/supra/intake/SMIC_core_inside.jpg) See all these little fins INSIDE the intercoolers flow channels? They are turbulators. Look it up. Garrett spends a lot of time and money optimizing the density and design of turbulators so that they can get the maximum heat transfer with the lowest associated pressure drop. The turbulators not only prevent laminar flow, they also act as additional surface area for haet to be shed into, and as conductors transfering that heat to the EXTERNAL fins, which then transfer that heat to the outside air. ---
**Author:** ![JiM\_P\_2001](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jim_p_2001/32/6364_2.png) [@JiM\_P\_2001](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JiM_P_2001)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/compare-ics/244552/26 "2009-06-04T20:58:54Z")
I bought my intercooler off ebay for like $100. It works better than stock. Money well spent. ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/jimp2001/SRT-4/CIMG0675.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/jimp2001/SRT-4/CIMG0675.jpg) ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/jimp2001/SRT-4/CIMG0690.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/jimp2001/SRT-4/CIMG0690.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 3:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/compare-ics/244552/27 "2009-06-05T03:24:00Z")
[quote=1320-20V;351670] Viscosity is the time rate of shear strain. It is a measure of how quickly a fluid will move to avoid the shearing stress. For example molasses has a high viscosity, if you put a stick in it it will SLOWLY fall over. Water has less viscosity, and the stick will fall over faster. Air has way less viscosity, but it does still exist. Knowing this we can begin to talk about laminar flow, velocity distribution, and the boundary layer. Are you aware that the oxygen molecule attached to the side of the inter cooler will not detach from the metal until the air reaches a supersonic velocity? This is called the ā€œboundry layerā€. In a laminar flow, with a subsonic velocity, the velocity of the fluid at the wall of the intercooler is zero. The velocity in the center of the tube is the maximum. The distribution is parabolic. As shown below: Normal to flow in rectangular section: ![http://www.myoops.org/twocw/mit/NR/rdonlyres/Chemical-Engineering/10-34Fall-2005/F7FFD9D1-AA84-44FD-8EE9-1846046BDD51/0/chp_ductvelocity.jpg](http://www.myoops.org/twocw/mit/NR/rdonlyres/Chemical-Engineering/10-34Fall-2005/F7FFD9D1-AA84-44FD-8EE9-1846046BDD51/0/chp_ductvelocity.jpg) Perpendicular to flow: ![http://www.freshgasflow.com/images/physics_images/flow_images/basics/laminar_turbulent_flow.gif](http://www.freshgasflow.com/images/physics_images/flow_images/basics/laminar_turbulent_flow.gif) You will note that in a laminar flow (laminar means not turbulent) , the air in the center of the tube NEVER touches the sides of the intercooler, and therefore will transfer no heat. That hot air just goes right down the tube and comes out the other side. **No heat is exchanged.** No, only _less air is exchanged._ Now in the TURBULENT flow depicted above, the air is swirling around and each air molecule will come in contact with the walls. That molecule will then transfer heat to the wall when in direct contact. This is how an intercooler WORKS. This is what it is supposed to do. Turbulators force the airflow to be turbulent. They literally disturb the air, making it NOT laminar, so that it does exchange heat with the walls. this is true, I did not argue this at all. Read my earlier post again ![http://www.max-boost.co.uk/max-boost/images/supra/intake/SMIC_core_inside.jpg](http://www.max-boost.co.uk/max-boost/images/supra/intake/SMIC_core_inside.jpg) See all these little fins INSIDE the intercoolers flow channels? They are turbulators. Look it up. Garrett spends a lot of time and money optimizing the density and design of turbulators so that they can get the maximum heat transfer with the lowest associated pressure drop. NO! this is not the correct term. **Not all intercoolers have turbulators, and from the picture above you cannot tell if they are present.** The turbulators not only prevent laminar flow, they also act as additional surface area for haet to be shed into, and as conductors transfering that heat to the EXTERNAL fins, which then transfer that heat to the outside air. I did not argue this. The point that I have been trying to make is that turbulators, while increasing the heat transfer have a **negative effect of restricting flow. It is a trade off** and you cannot simply state that that a intercooler with turbulators are better. ---
**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 3:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/compare-ics/244552/28 "2009-06-05T03:50:32Z")
Here is a question for you. Are you considering all internal fins to be ā€œturbulators?ā€ ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 5:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/compare-ics/244552/29 "2009-06-05T05:02:11Z")
hey MAFDARK, im not gonna quote a mile long post, but you said INCREASE YOUR SPOOL TIMEā€¦ now wouldnt you mean DECREASE the spool time. less piping = less lag in theory. which would be a decrease in the time its taking. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/compare-ics/244552/30 "2009-06-05T07:12:41Z")
Bigger core = more time to pressurize? ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/compare-ics/244552/31 "2009-06-05T07:15:18Z")
> [@FS: 1998 Chevy S10 Pickup](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-1998-chevy-s10-pickup/18127/5): > > Bigger core = more time to pressurize? if the entire system is efficient it should make a marginal difference ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/compare-ics/244552/32 "2009-06-05T07:15:48Z")
It was a guess. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![imported\_hybrdthry91](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_hybrdthry91/32/6315_2.png) [@imported\_hybrdthry91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_hybrdthry91)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/compare-ics/244552/33 "2009-06-05T08:35:25Z")
you were hoping to increase efficiency and make more power on lower boost, but you used the same intercooler core?? you can see some more pics of tony1ā€™s quality intercooler core here: [http://www.t1raceparts.com/PhotoDetails.asp?ShowDESC=N&ProductCode=GT+INT+04](http://www.t1raceparts.com/PhotoDetails.asp?ShowDESC=N&ProductCode=GT+INT+04) At a price of 1125 dollars no doubt it isnt the most affordable on the market, but note this intercooler is the high end intercooler in the honda market, and it supports 850+whp. mainly marketed towards sfwd drag cars where not only does it have to perform, but it has to look good, and have a name behind it, these guys all want sponsors, and a consistent car. yours looks like a jhonny race car intercooler with some end tanks. it comes in more affordable but that is the only advantage you have in this comparison. what size core is on yours? and what brand is it? im not sure what you expected from this thread? everyone to agree that because yours was cheaper it wasnt worth getting the more expensive one? there are middle of the road high quality intercoolers for street cars that wont break the bank. you can pick up a good quality intercooler for $350-400 that utilizes a garrett core to support 400-700whp. ---
**Author:** ![g60](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e36b37/32.png) [@g60](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/g60)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/compare-ics/244552/34 "2009-06-05T09:21:45Z")
![http://www.t1raceparts.com/v/vspfiles/photos/GT%20INT%2004-6.jpg](http://www.t1raceparts.com/v/vspfiles/photos/GT%20INT%2004-6.jpg) ![http://www.t1raceparts.com/v/vspfiles/photos/GT%20INT%2004-7.jpg](http://www.t1raceparts.com/v/vspfiles/photos/GT%20INT%2004-7.jpg) ![http://www.t1raceparts.com/v/vspfiles/photos/GT%20INT%2004-3T.jpg](http://www.t1raceparts.com/v/vspfiles/photos/GT%20INT%2004-3T.jpg) Calling out Tony 1 LOL! ![http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o285/Boxxersix/core.jpg](http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o285/Boxxersix/core.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Boost\_Creep](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boost_creep/32/6366_2.png) [@Boost\_Creep](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boost_Creep)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/compare-ics/244552/35 "2009-06-05T09:54:31Z")
> [@I am a true ricer (or Polishing a turd)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-am-a-true-ricer-or-polishing-a-turd/18908/17): > > yeah thats a lot of money for just a fmic. What are your plans with the car? Not Really, Greddy 3/4 row was $1900 new. ---
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/compare-ics/244552/36 "2009-06-05T11:10:56Z")
> [@Innovative Tuning Vandelized!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/innovative-tuning-vandelized/18924/107): > > Not Really, Greddy 3/4 row was $1900 new. Porsche M.S. 993 GT2 intercoolers made with Secan cores were in the sub 15K range when the chassis what being raced extensively. Iā€™ve heard that TK has made a few for 996 Turbo customers in the 20K range. I know the cores are rediculously expensive. > [@What are you driving this winter](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-are-you-driving-this-winter/18993/31): > > Calling out Tony 1 LOL! Sure why not? The physics of nozzles, diffusers, and loss coefficients apply to the entire system which if Iā€™m not mistaken, includes core tanks. It probably is the best mass produced intercooler out there on the market and Iā€™m not doubting or calling out that by any means. Could have been thrown through CFD and works well for what he see fits. However there are always areas for improvement and optimization for each application. It all deopends on how much financing is available to be thrown at it. Iā€™m not used to slapping on something that just works, which I guess makes me the unknowledgable rightwing asshole youā€™ve so eagerly grown accustomed to correcting my grammar mistakes ---
**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/compare-ics/244552/37 "2009-06-05T14:03:13Z")
> [@WTB: Rims to fit a lexus](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-rims-to-fit-a-lexus/18225/14): > > hey MAFDARK, im not gonna quote a mile long post, but you said INCREASE YOUR SPOOL TIMEā€¦ now wouldnt you mean DECREASE the spool time. > > less piping = less lag in theory. which would be a decrease in the time its taking. Yea, Iā€™ll say quicker spool to clarify it I guess. I think I meant to type ā€œimproveā€ before. > [@Road Test.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/road-test/18980/11): > > you were hoping to increase efficiency and make more power on lower boost, but you used the same intercooler core?? There might be a little confusion here. The key to the whole equation is that I am using a different turbo this year. The turbo is slightly bigger and when tuned on E85 I expect it to make about 100 more hp. Now since the turbo is a little bit bigger my attention turned to improving spool time by decreasing the amount charge piping and improve the flow of my intercooler to do this with ā€˜one stoneā€™ me and adam took the time and effort to modify the core that I already had. The point of the thread was more of a ā€œlook at this low cost alternative to back door end tank constructionā€ ā€œDIY and make it better flowing than T1ā€ The discussion turned to the core since I didnā€™t point that out initially and my E-rep paid for it dearly :lol So again: -a garrett core is better than mine -my core is effective it cooled my intake air effectively last year -the air will flow smoother through my endtanks than the T1 example -I had my own end tanks created after some research and drawings by adam. -My charge piping length has now been reduced by about 3ā€™ ---
**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/compare-ics/244552/38 "2009-06-05T14:06:42Z")
> [@What are you driving this winter](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-are-you-driving-this-winter/18993/31): > > Calling out Tony 1 LOL! Donā€™t be stupid. Yes Tonyā€™s stuff (this intercooler) is better than 90% of the shit out there, but that doesnā€™t mean that there is no room for improvement. His shit is not perfect. ---
**Author:** ![1320-20V](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1320-20v/32/6474_2.png) [@1320-20V](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320-20V)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/compare-ics/244552/39 "2009-06-05T14:35:08Z")
Adam why do you keep talking about 20-30K intercoolers? :retardclap Secan = A sweet intercooler that is 10x more expensive than it has any right to be. And for mafdark, your really showing your ignorance over and over again. Do yourself a favor: Figure out the mass flow of your turbocharger. Then figure out how long it would take to fill 3 feet of 4" charge piping. Then post your answer here. Your answer will be fractions of a second. Also read this: [http://www.turbochargedpower.com/Intercooler%20Theory.htm](http://www.turbochargedpower.com/Intercooler%20Theory.htm) all of it. perhaps you might learn something. Perhaps then you will stop ā€œcorrectingā€ people who were nice enough to provide you the correct answer the first time. :banghead ---
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/compare-ics/244552/40 "2009-06-05T16:01:52Z")
> [@I smell skanks](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-smell-skanks/19000/26): > > Adam why do you keep talking about 20-30K intercoolers? :retardclap Feel the need to pull out the strings on that one huh? I do it for the same reason you pull out your unabridged textbook formula talkā€¦because one can. I used them as a high value reference point. Adding to comments considering prices on available options for heat exchangers. Expensive and typically out of reach ?, certainly. But who the fuck cares? I did read the thread title correctly right???, Compare: ICā€™s. Seems 90% more on topic than any other thread on this forum to me. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/compare-ics/244552.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/compare-ics/244552.md?page=3)