# Confederate Flag - Get Rid of it?

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**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [January 20, 2008, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160 "2008-01-20T16:43:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![forthekicks385](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/forthekicks385/32/7484_2.png) [@forthekicks385](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/forthekicks385)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2008, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/21 "2008-01-20T20:02:45Z")

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leave it it means nothing compared to what it did during the civil war… uncivil war. i don’t think it is ment to hate any more. but there are those rare few that push it to far…silly libs.

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**Author:** ![FBodyMadnezz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fbodymadnezz/32/7433_2.png) [@FBodyMadnezz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FBodyMadnezz)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2008, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/22 "2008-01-20T20:27:40Z")

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> [@amspimpwagon](#):
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> Why do rednecks who live in upstate NY find it necessary to have that flag on everything they own?
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> This is NY, not Tennessee.

southern NY, northern PA is the worst.

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**Author:** ![SoloIIscoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/35a633/32.png) [@SoloIIscoob](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SoloIIscoob)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2008, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/23 "2008-01-20T20:38:31Z")

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my friend at school was a black kid that flew the confed. flag 24/7/365

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**Author:** ![dirtye30](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dirtye30/32/7333_2.png) [@dirtye30](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dirtye30)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2008, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/24 "2008-01-20T22:02:29Z")

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i have a bunch.

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**Author:** ![forthekicks385](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/forthekicks385/32/7484_2.png) [@forthekicks385](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/forthekicks385)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2008, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/25 "2008-01-20T22:07:38Z")

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i kinda figuared with a sn like that u might have a few 30

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**Author:** ![speedracer329](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/speedracer329/32/5058_2.png) [@speedracer329](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/speedracer329)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2008, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/26 "2008-01-20T22:29:48Z")

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in the south its normal, i guess the only time it worries me is when they have the pickup with the confederate flag on the rear glass, and a gun rack also…

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**Author:** ![SI01](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/si01/32/7187_2.png) [@SI01](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SI01)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2008, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/27 "2008-01-20T23:46:16Z")

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> [@forthekicks385](#):
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> i don’t think it is ment to hate any more.

Epic fail.

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**Author:** ![d3x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8491ac/32.png) [@d3x](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/d3x)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 3:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/28 "2008-01-21T03:48:48Z")

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its just like guys plastering their cars with stickers of a car club or community they’re a part of. the confederate flag is a symbol that seperates someone from the 300 million other robots in this country. it gives people an identity. its an insight into a southern way of life.

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**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 5:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/29 "2008-01-21T05:34:57Z")

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The flag is free speech.

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/30 "2008-01-21T09:56:01Z")

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I would never want it banned… but there is no question that most who use it are racist.

I’m trying to think of other examples of items that say one clear thing, but when accused people always deny with an accepted cover story.

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/31 "2008-01-21T10:04:56Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> I would never want it banned… but there is no question that most who use it are racist.
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> I’m trying to think of other examples of items that say one clear thing, but when accused people always deny with an accepted cover story.

Not everyone gives the same meaning to something that you do.

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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/32 "2008-01-21T10:07:39Z")

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It can def be offensive. I don’t care for its implied racism - but not everyone flies it for that reason.

Either way, no reason to censor it.

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/33 "2008-01-21T10:14:39Z")

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> [@Fry](#):
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> Not everyone gives the same meaning to something that you do.

that’s the beauty of it… I can’t prove you wrong.

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**Author:** ![MiniSRT4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minisrt4/32/7225_2.png) [@MiniSRT4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MiniSRT4)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/34 "2008-01-21T10:22:59Z")

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when my buddy went to unc charolette(sp?) his roomate flew both flags, i said it was prolly to respect where he came from and his heritage, his roomate agreed fully… not to mention flying that flag is part of freedom of speech, so whoever thinks it should be banned should stfu

not to mention, to think that it automatically symbols racism and “backwards thinking” is kind of ignorance in itself is it not?

not sure who said it, its from Authority Zero-PCH82… but “both good and evil should be averted by more speech, not enforced silence”

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/35 "2008-01-21T10:49:26Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> that’s the beauty of it… I can’t prove you wrong.

Yep, in the same way that you can’t prove yourself right either. Which means that your claim can in fact be questioned.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/36 "2008-01-21T11:05:36Z")

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The US flag was used during slavery, infact it was used before the civil rights act too so maybe we shouldn’t use that either.

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**Author:** ![jrod0187](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac91a4/32.png) [@jrod0187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jrod0187)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/37 "2008-01-21T11:16:24Z")

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Keep it, its a symbol of pride to some. I’ve had this discussion with several of my friends when I was stationed in NC a few years back.

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/38 "2008-01-21T11:17:09Z")

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> [@Fry](#):
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> Yep, in the same way that you can’t prove yourself right either. Which means that your claim can in fact be questioned.

would you be as bold as to say that black people have no right to be offended by somebody flying the flag?

it’s very interesting that people always use the battle flag and not the original one yet scream their reasons are historic and not racist.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/39 "2008-01-21T11:27:09Z")

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OK I have to throw this out there…  
I keep seeing racism used but keep in mind that as a percentage of people in the US there were more black slave owners than white slave owners.  
(They forget to mention that in public schools)  
So yeah if you are anti-slave you can be offended but don’t say racist!

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**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/40 "2008-01-21T11:28:28Z")

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I think we’re arguing 2 different things.

Like I said, my roommate and I had one in college. We are not racist. We did not have it for any race related purpose. We were sensitive to the fact that it is offensive to some people even though we do not give it any negative meaning, so we kept it out of view of the window.

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