# Confederate Flag - Get Rid of it? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 20, 2008, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160 "2008-01-20T16:43:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/41 "2008-01-21T11:31:34Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > OK I have to throw this out there… > I keep seeing racism used but keep in mind that as a percentage of people in the US there were more black slave owners than white slave owners. > (They forget to mention that in public schools) > So yeah if you are anti-slave you can be offended but don’t say racist! weak argument IMO… it’s not like the black slave owners had white slaves. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/42 "2008-01-21T11:32:41Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > weak argument IMO… it’s not like the black slave owners had white slaves. WTF?🤣 ARE you serious? Is it racism if a black owns a black? ---
**Author:** ![MiniSRT4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minisrt4/32/7225_2.png) [@MiniSRT4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MiniSRT4)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/43 "2008-01-21T11:35:59Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > (They forget to mention that in public schools) they forget to mention alot in public schools… why have A(not an) PROPERLY educated population :gotme: ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/44 "2008-01-21T11:37:36Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > OK I have to throw this out there… > I keep seeing racism used but keep in mind that as a percentage of people in the US there were more black slave owners than white slave owners. > (They forget to mention that in public schools) > So yeah if you are anti-slave you can be offended but don’t say racist! IMO the Civil War era (not just the confederate flag) isn’t implicit of white on black hated, as you’re talking about. Its far more about the oppression of the entire class of people. You know, there were white & indian slaves too. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/45 "2008-01-21T11:38:01Z")
> [@MiniSRT4](#): > > t why have **an** PROPERLY educated population :gotme: :lol: ---
**Author:** ![MiniSRT4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minisrt4/32/7225_2.png) [@MiniSRT4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MiniSRT4)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/46 "2008-01-21T11:40:47Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > :lol: :2fingers: i was typing fast :lol: ---
**Author:** ![hondaride22](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hondaride22/32/5077_2.png) [@hondaride22](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/hondaride22)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/47 "2008-01-21T11:43:15Z")
Lynyrd Skynyrd drops a huge one on the stage everyone concert and they are the shit so it’s cool with me. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/48 "2008-01-21T11:49:51Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > I think we’re arguing 2 different things. > > Like I said, my roommate and I had one in college. We are not racist. We did not have it for any race related purpose. We were sensitive to the fact that it is offensive to some people even though we do not give it any negative meaning, so we kept it out of view of the window. my thought when it comes to young americans in the northeast is that they do it because it’s controversial. I believe you’re not racist - but even you admit that it can be very offensive. you probably wouldn’t put a swastika up, yet it also can easily be argued that you want to express good luck. in either case, it’s how it looks, you know how some people will interpret it because of the modern meaning that it has taken. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/49 "2008-01-21T11:53:37Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > I think we’re arguing 2 different things. > > Like I said, my roommate and I had one in college. We are not racist. We did not have it for any race related purpose. We were sensitive to the fact that it is offensive to some people even though we do not give it any negative meaning, so we kept it out of view of the window. ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/NjccBflo/GIF/thats_racist.gif](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/f/3/f35942d4f61178c18bf23fd1f78c293c9d761a42.gif) 😛 > [@AWDrifter](#): > > Is it racism if a black owns a black? dunno why, but this reminded me of this: ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/NjccBflo/GIF/carlton.gif](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/0/1/01fee0904fcffdf37cd49a64ea51c9a6ca52ab97.gif) ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/50 "2008-01-21T11:56:23Z")
> [@AWDrifter](#): > > WTF?🤣 > ARE you serious? > Is it racism if a black owns a black? YES. if you know why the indian caste system began/exists you will understand my answer. It’s all about hating yourself so much because of what others have taught you that you would sell out your own people just to feel superior over something. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/51 "2008-01-21T11:58:02Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > my thought when it comes to young americans in the northeast is that they do it because it’s controversial. I believe you’re not racist - but even you admit that it can be very offensive. > > you probably wouldn’t put a swastika up, yet it also can easily be argued that you want to express good luck. > > in either case, it’s how it looks, you know how some people will interpret it because of the modern meaning that it has taken. Fair enough. :tup: ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/52 "2008-01-21T11:58:34Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/NjccBflo/GIF/thats_racist.gif](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/f/3/f35942d4f61178c18bf23fd1f78c293c9d761a42.gif) That’s it! It’s on! ---
**Author:** ![JoesTypeS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joestypes/32/7190_2.png) [@JoesTypeS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoesTypeS)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/53 "2008-01-21T12:03:21Z")
It should really be taken off any government building. Otherwise, people can do with their own property what they wish so long as it doesn’t put anyone in danger. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/54 "2008-01-21T12:03:27Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > That’s it! It’s on! ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/NjccBflo/Pics%20OT/classiccat.gif](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/b/9/b9f901a806d6cfa2898b3256a2e5d3ef281719ab.gif) ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/55 "2008-01-21T12:34:27Z")
> [@JoesTypeS](#): > > It should really be taken off any government building. Otherwise, people can do with their own property what they wish so long as it doesn’t put anyone in danger. +1 And you could argue that the Civil War was more than just slavery. It was about states rights vs the federal government. It just happened that the specific right they disagreed on was slavery. ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/56 "2008-01-21T12:53:12Z")
> [@jt76](#): > > This is the reason why America going into the shitter, PC will be the downfall of this country. Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/57 "2008-01-21T13:08:11Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > It just happened that the specific right they disagreed on was slavery. I did a paper late in school… after alot of reading (in context), Lincoln basically pushed Civil Rights through so that the states would unify. He didn’t nec care for or against slaves, but he needed the country to be solvent against GB & the like. Not to stir the pot or anything… ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/58 "2008-01-21T13:35:09Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/NjccBflo/Pics%20OT/classiccat.gif](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/b/9/b9f901a806d6cfa2898b3256a2e5d3ef281719ab.gif) ---
**Author:** ![LXIFLYBY](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lxiflyby/32/7399_2.png) [@LXIFLYBY](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LXIFLYBY)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/59 "2008-01-21T13:43:37Z")
> [@Nikuk](#): > > I did a paper late in school… after alot of reading (in context), Lincoln basically pushed Civil Rights through so that the states would unify. He didn’t nec care for or against slaves, but he needed the country to be solvent against GB & the like. > > Not to stir the pot or anything… Quoted for truth. And god i hate the dirty south ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/confederate-flag-get-rid-of-it/42160/60 "2008-01-21T13:58:14Z")
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