# Conspiracy Theories of Nick Berg?? **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [May 14, 2004, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/conspiracy-theories-of-nick-berg/166477 "2004-05-14T07:43:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![91GSteggy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/ac91a4/32.png) [@91GSteggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91GSteggy)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/conspiracy-theories-of-nick-berg/166477/1 "2004-05-14T07:43:58Z")
[http://www.infowars.com/print/iraq/berg.htm](http://www.infowars.com/print/iraq/berg.htm) pretty interesting. i read on another board about the timing of the vid being really off too. like 1 part was shot at this time then the next was a few hours or a good period of minutes later. kinda like it was put together not filmed straight through. ---
**Author:** ![91GSteggy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/ac91a4/32.png) [@91GSteggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91GSteggy)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/conspiracy-theories-of-nick-berg/166477/2 "2004-05-14T07:48:55Z")
Here’s how the video goes, with timestamps in the bottom corner: 13:24:25 - 13:24:27: “Hi, my name is Nick Berg, my father’s name is Michael” 2:18:33 - 2:18:43: “my mother’s name is Suzanne, I have a brother and sister, David and Sarah. I live in… Philadelphia.” So his little introductory speech was split up very suspiciously… “Whatever”, you might think… But keep watching the timestamp… 2:40:33 - 2:44:12: The speech, and they throw Nick to the ground and act as if they’re going to chop his head off. TIME FLICKS TO 13:45:48 IN MID EXECUTION!!! WTF!!! 13:45:48 - 13:47:52: They edit out a minute of sawing here, that isn’t much of a concern… ---
**Author:** ![imported\_SINISTER](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_sinister/32/5970_2.png) [@imported\_SINISTER](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_SINISTER)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/conspiracy-theories-of-nick-berg/166477/3 "2004-05-14T07:53:56Z")
hes still dead time cant change that ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/conspiracy-theories-of-nick-berg/166477/4 "2004-05-14T07:54:18Z")
I don’t care. Either way an american was killed and the world is more pissed that we stripped a few iraqi’s down and humiliated them a little. ---
**Author:** ![91GSteggy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/ac91a4/32.png) [@91GSteggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91GSteggy)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/conspiracy-theories-of-nick-berg/166477/5 "2004-05-14T08:03:03Z")
> **[Berg Video Shown In Classrooms](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/berg-video-shown-in-classrooms-11-05-2004/)** > > Teachers Show Execution As Learning Tool In Time Of War cliffnotes… My head is spinning… …a supposed Jewish American, a supposed independent (and unemployed) contractor roams around alone in Iraq…is supposedly kidnapped and executed by some men supposedly connected to Al Qaeda…then it turns out Moussaoui had his computer password in 2001 and he was supposedly contacted by the FBI/CIA whenever. The guy sounds like a CIA agent or a member of Al Qaeda or both. ---
**Author:** ![91GSteggy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/ac91a4/32.png) [@91GSteggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91GSteggy)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/conspiracy-theories-of-nick-berg/166477/6 "2004-05-14T08:05:00Z")
> [@2kaltima](#): > > I don’t care. Either way an american was killed and the world is more pissed that we stripped a few iraqi’s down and humiliated them a little. true he is still dead but maybe they had a reason. i know nothing justify’s it and thats not what im saying. im saying maybe they just didn’t pick some random american civilian and kill him. maybe there was something behind it. just something to think about its odd that him and Moussaoui had the same password for their e-mail (i belive). ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/conspiracy-theories-of-nick-berg/166477/7 "2004-05-14T08:05:46Z")
Propaganda is all around us. ---
**Author:** ![imported\_SINISTER](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_sinister/32/5970_2.png) [@imported\_SINISTER](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_SINISTER)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/conspiracy-theories-of-nick-berg/166477/8 "2004-05-14T08:06:35Z")
> [@ShalerPunk](#): > > Propaganda is all around us. and the CIA is watching ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/conspiracy-theories-of-nick-berg/166477/9 "2004-05-14T08:13:20Z")
> [@2FNFast](#): > > and the CIA is watching i’m no “wrap my head in tin foil” conspiracy theorist, but when there’s solid proof that things have been heavily manipulated before (the JFK assassination) it leads me to believe that things aren’t always as they seem. You have to look at it from the angle of who has the most to benefit from the Nick Berg video. Obviously the current administration would benefit from the video. It takes at least a little of the heat off of them for the Iraqi prisoner abuse, and it plays off of most Americans prejudice toward Arabs to support the current conflict. Anyone with a clear understanding of global events knows that the killers on that video are no more representative of the Iraqi people than the KKK is representative of us. ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/conspiracy-theories-of-nick-berg/166477/10 "2004-05-14T08:14:22Z")
> [@2FNFast](#): > > and the CIA is watching actually the FBI… iknow the guys that watch websites like this one. :scared: ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/conspiracy-theories-of-nick-berg/166477/11 "2004-05-14T08:16:35Z")
> [@turbovw18](#): > > actually the FBI… iknow the guys that watch websites like this one. :scared: should i get rid of my Vladmir Lenin avater? :scared: :tounge: ---
**Author:** ![91GSteggy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/ac91a4/32.png) [@91GSteggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91GSteggy)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/conspiracy-theories-of-nick-berg/166477/12 "2004-05-14T08:19:47Z")
[QUOTE=ShalerPunkYou have to look at it from the angle of who has the most to benefit from the Nick Berg video. Obviously the current administration would benefit from the video. It takes at least a little of the heat off of them for the Iraqi prisoner abuse, and it plays off of most Americans prejudice toward Arabs to support the current conflict. Anyone with a clear understanding of global events knows that the killers on that video are no more representative of the Iraqi people than the KKK is representative of us.[/QUOTE] i think its odd that it popped up right in the middle of the U.S takin all the heat of the prison photo’s. remember when we had Bin Laden “cornered in a 4 mile section” or whatever…what happened to that??? IBwefindBinLadenweeksbe4theelectionsoBushgetsre-elected ---
**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/conspiracy-theories-of-nick-berg/166477/13 "2004-05-14T08:21:08Z")
you want the truth…well you can’t handle the truth!!! ---
**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/conspiracy-theories-of-nick-berg/166477/14 "2004-05-14T08:22:46Z")
> [@91GSteggy](#): > > remember when we had Bin Laden “cornered in a 4 mile section” or whatever…what happened to that??? I’ve heard rumors that he might be caught already but the President isn’t going to go public until closer to the election to boost his votes ---
**Author:** ![91GSteggy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/ac91a4/32.png) [@91GSteggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91GSteggy)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/conspiracy-theories-of-nick-berg/166477/15 "2004-05-14T08:24:08Z")
> IBwefindBinLadenweeksbe4theelectionsoBushgetsre-elected like i said ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/conspiracy-theories-of-nick-berg/166477/16 "2004-05-14T08:25:42Z")
> [@91GSteggy](#): > > i think its odd that it popped up right in the middle of the U.S takin all the heat of the prison photo’s. > > remember when we had Bin Laden “cornered in a 4 mile section” or whatever…what happened to that??? > > IBwefindBinLadenweeksbe4theelectionsoBushgetsre-elected agreed. Clinton didn’t bother with a ground war. He very quietly blasted the shit out of two locations (using cruise missles) his intel said bin Laden could be at. This is just one of the reasons why Clinton \> Bush. ---
**Author:** ![91GSteggy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/ac91a4/32.png) [@91GSteggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91GSteggy)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/conspiracy-theories-of-nick-berg/166477/17 "2004-05-14T08:26:36Z")
blowjob billy was the man. wish we could get him back in office. ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/conspiracy-theories-of-nick-berg/166477/18 "2004-05-14T08:29:52Z")
> [@91GSteggy](#): > > blowjob billy was the man. wish we could get him back in office. x2. He was a little shady, but all presidents are; He’s just the one that got caught. Otherwise, he was the man. ---
**Author:** ![91GSteggy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/ac91a4/32.png) [@91GSteggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91GSteggy)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/conspiracy-theories-of-nick-berg/166477/19 "2004-05-14T08:38:33Z")
"I believe that Berg (or this lookalike character) was first killed (perhaps by lethal injection, poisoning, etc.), then decapitated after dead (explains lack of blood spraying everywhere). Berg was killed by Al-Quaeda (known to be a CIA - Mossad joint venture). Berg video released at height of furor over U.S. torture of Iraqis and just before Bush was to decide whether to release additional torture videos. Now torture videos will be witheld from public for reasons of national security. Now “patriots” everywhere will laud the virtues of U.S. torture of “enemies”. Sensitivity level of public gets heightened in terms of what’s acceptable treatment of prisoners. Juxtaposed with decapitation, piling naked men into pyramid is nothing. Such treatment will be considered more and more acceptable even in domestic situations. George W. Bush sleeps well tonight while Berg family lives in torture. Serves Berg’s father right for opposing Bush and the war of aggression against Iraq. " kinda interesting. in the vid when he does get thrown down he doesnt struggle or wiggle at all (leading me to believe he was already dead, would make sense with the timestamps). Also, when Berg decapitated, there was almost no blood. If Berg were still alive at this point, when they cut the front of his throat, blood would have been spraying everywhere. Berg’s severed head, the floor, Berg’s clothes, and even the hand of the “Arab” who decapitated Berg had little or no blood on it. ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/conspiracy-theories-of-nick-berg/166477/20 "2004-05-14T08:47:51Z")
> [@91GSteggy](#): > > "I believe that Berg (or this lookalike character) was first killed (perhaps > by lethal injection, poisoning, etc.), then decapitated after dead (explains > lack of blood spraying everywhere). Berg was killed by Al-Quaeda (known to > be a CIA - Mossad joint venture). Berg video released at height of furor > over U.S. torture of Iraqis and just before Bush was to decide whether to > release additional torture videos. Now torture videos will be witheld from > public for reasons of national security. Now “patriots” everywhere will > laud the virtues of U.S. torture of “enemies”. Sensitivity level of public > gets heightened in terms of what’s acceptable treatment of prisoners. > Juxtaposed with decapitation, piling naked men into pyramid is nothing. > Such treatment will be considered more and more acceptable even in domestic > situations. George W. Bush sleeps well tonight while Berg family lives in > torture. Serves Berg’s father right for opposing Bush and the war of > aggression against Iraq. " > > kinda interesting. in the vid when he does get thrown down he doesnt struggle or wiggle at all (leading me to believe he was already dead, would make sense with the timestamps). > > Also, when Berg decapitated, there was almost no blood. If Berg were still > alive at this point, when they cut the front of his throat, blood would > have been spraying everywhere. Berg’s severed head, the floor, Berg’s > clothes, and even the hand of the “Arab” who decapitated Berg had little or no blood on it. and after read ing all of this - it’s still an american who was killed. I could care less how he was killedm, the point is, he is still dead. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/conspiracy-theories-of-nick-berg/166477.md?page=2)