# Cossey: Ban?

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240>\
**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\
**Created:** [November 9, 2009, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240 "2009-11-09T12:57:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/261 "2009-11-10T07:09:46Z")

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Racism goes both ways, it’s just too bad the media and our buddy Al has portrayed racism as just an attack on blacks. IMO blacks are more racist then whites nowadays.

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**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/262 "2009-11-10T07:28:18Z")

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> [@99FRC"](#):
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> And once again, to those who continue to bash my original argument. You are right. I got mad, and when that happens I say shit that makes no sense. It has happened with other members on this forum. In this whole process I learned something new and have moved on. Will not let it happen again. Better than me not accepting I was wrong and still arguing like an idiot correct?

ya good looks on that, im poud of ya :lol

but srsly glad u straightened it out

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/263 "2009-11-10T07:39:21Z")

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> [@Ever wonder who would win.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ever-wonder-who-would-win/25600/22):
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> I have not read this whole thread but is hilarious watching people talk about constitutional law when they have no idea what they’re saying. Good Day.

Well you shouldn’t base your opnions without knowing all the facts and the entire story.

Jumping to conclusions like that is one of the biggest problems in the country and is seen in commercials, political campaigns, retail and nearly every aspect of daily life.

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**For those of you still having trouble accepting the rules, keep in mind we are trying to run a business here, and while it’s free for the members it’s not free for us.**

 

The way it stays free is that sponsors support it, however no sponsor wants to be associated with a site that discriminates against any group because one, negative associations never help a business, and two, they try to attract every customer, without cutting out a specific ethnic or racial group.

Sponsors like a clean place that welcomes everybody, so new members are very likely to join to find out about a business. If a guest sees the site as racist and sees that a certain business is supporting it, it will come back to hunt the business, especially if the guest is offended. How likely is somebody to spend money by a business that supports offensive material to the race? I don’t see PJB investing $$$ in BET.

**Guys trying to support this sort of offensive language are arguing a moot point. Sure you guys can pick on each other, but to an extent that it doesn’t offend others.**

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**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/264 "2009-11-10T10:17:14Z")

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FYI I am on hold right now for someone and they are playing fucking spanish music in the background. I cnt understand a god damn thing they are singing, we are in america speak fucking english.

I am offended, I want to ban these people. Not to mention I am on song #2 right now… and I am on hold to fucking help them not ask for their assistance.

hanging up in 3, 2 …

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**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/265 "2009-11-10T10:25:58Z")

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> [@99FRC"](#):
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> Well here is the conundrum that I am dealing with.
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> If black guys call them selves (N), it is ok. But if a white guy says that to a black person, they are considered racist.
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> Would it not be fair to say that when a black person who is ok with other black people calling him (N), gets mad at a white person for saying it, is in fact also being racist by judging someone based on the color of their skin? Sure seems like it to me.
> 
> And once again, to those who continue to bash my original argument. You are right. I got mad, and when that happens I say shit that makes no sense. It has happened with other members on this forum. In this whole process I learned something new and have moved on. Will not let it happen again. Better than me not accepting I was wrong and still arguing like an idiot correct?

Everyone always says, if black people can use the N word, why can’t I? The reason that alot of black people frequently use it is because it was a way to take an offensive word away from their oppressor. This may sound like complete garbage to you but I was told this by my sister who graduated from NYU with a masters in sociology.

Think about when you see two girls calling each other bitches on the street, would you go up to one of them and be like ohhhh your such a bitch.

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/266 "2009-11-10T10:35:58Z")

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> [@GTO \> Saturn Vue](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gto-saturn-vue/25566/24):
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> Everyone always says, if black people can use the N word, why can’t I? The reason that alot of black people frequently use it is because it was a way to take an offensive word away from their oppressor. This may sound like complete garbage to you but I was told this by my sister who graduated from NYU with a masters in sociology.
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> Think about when you see two girls calling each other bitches on the street, would you go up to one of them and be like ohhhh your such a bitch.

Precisely.

Hate words only hurt if you take offense to them. If you take them lightly and make a joke out of them, the hate words lose their power.

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**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/267 "2009-11-10T10:43:21Z")

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I dont really see a need to use the slurs. If vlad doesnt want them on the forum then tough shit. I would suggest signing up for some sort of white power forum where you can have free reign to use any slur you woud like.

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**Author:** ![Auto0utcast1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast1/32/6546_2.png) [@Auto0utcast1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast1)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/268 "2009-11-10T10:44:31Z")

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> [@Labor Rates Question](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/labor-rates-question/25617/6):
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> I dont really see a need to use the slurs. If vlad doesnt want them on the forum then tough shit. I would suggest signing up for some sort of white power forum where you can have free reign to use any slur you woud like.

this.

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**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/269 "2009-11-10T10:45:09Z")

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OK ANYWAYS this is being dragged on further than it needs to be

the topic should of ended with archies last post explaining exactly why what happened…happened…and if you are still dumbfounded after that you really suck

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/270 "2009-11-10T11:03:18Z")

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That’s enough, to continue with BS go here.

[http://shift518.gom-host.com/showthread.php?p=479021#post479021](http://shift518.gom-host.com/showthread.php?p=479021#post479021)

If you want cliff notes

> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/25609/4):
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> Come on guys, Vlad is just trying to do the best he can with this site…
> 
> While it’s nice that the group has become more tight knit, the last thing anyone wants is to make it clique-ish and then exclude others from joining the community.
> 
> The idea is to grow the scene locally, not turn people away with all of the inside jokes / slang on the site that outsiders do not understand or may be offended by.
> 
> People post on this site, and of course it’s the internet, not to be taken seriously, yadda yadda but the posts and members are what define and represent the website to non-members, whether you like it or not.
> 
> Someone who hears something offensive from a person they don’t even know is not being uptight- they are just reacting to the lack of respect from a stranger…
> 
> Come on, if some random dude out on the street came up and called one of us any of the names here, he/she would be ignored… Or it could even escalate into a fight…
> 
> Either way, it just leads to negativity…

> [@Labor Rates Question](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/labor-rates-question/25617/6):
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> I dont really see a need to use the slurs. If vlad doesnt want them on the forum then tough shit. I would suggest signing up for some sort of white power forum where you can have free reign to use any slur you woud like.

> [@Oh yes more stereo pics.... shop car](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-yes-more-stereo-pics-shop-car/25595/22):
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> **For those of you still having trouble accepting the rules, keep in mind we are trying to run a business here, and while it’s free for the members it’s not free for us.**
> 
>  
> 
> The way it stays free is that sponsors support it, however no sponsor wants to be associated with a site that discriminates against any group because one, negative associations never help a business, and two, they try to attract every customer, without cutting out a specific ethnic or racial group.
> 
> Sponsors like a clean place that welcomes everybody, so new members are very likely to join to find out about a business. If a guest sees the site as racist and sees that a certain business is supporting it, it will come back to hunt the business, especially if the guest is offended. How likely is somebody to spend money by a business that supports offensive material to the race? I don’t see PJB investing $$$ in BET.
> 
> **Guys trying to support this sort of offensive language are arguing a moot point. Sure you guys can pick on each other, but to an extent that it doesn’t offend others.**

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