# Cossey: Ban?

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240>\
**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\
**Created:** [November 9, 2009, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240 "2009-11-09T12:57:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Auto0utcast1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast1/32/6546_2.png) [@Auto0utcast1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast1)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/81 "2009-11-09T14:55:08Z")

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> [@Hey Andy](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hey-andy/25537/14):
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> Major +1. Vlad thanks for posting this.
> 
> As for those who want to come in and say “but I was not offended so…” that’s all well and good but everyone is DIFFERENT and it is these differences we should be mature enough to **understand and respect**.
> 
> Are we so self-centered that if a word is acceptable to “me” then it is fine to use anywhere, anytime?
> 
> 99FRC, I’m calling you out - post up a picture of you hanging with some black guys, looking like you are chums. I don’t want a photo of you and the token black guy at your workplace / town forcing a smile 'cause he’s surrounded by white folks… Go on and show us all a photo that makes it clear how tight ya’ll are with the brothers…
> 
> It won’t change my opinion that your comment should not be on a public forum, but it would be entertaining for me. So humor an old man.

ehhhh…not sure about this one. this could go either way… might blow up in ur face or be a WIN… idk… time will tell.

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**Author:** ![OsoiNA6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/osoina6/32/6301_2.png) [@OsoiNA6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OsoiNA6)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/82 "2009-11-09T14:57:38Z")

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> [@What size wheels are these?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-size-wheels-are-these/25584/2):
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> ehhhh…not sure about this one. this could go either way… might blow up in ur face or be a WIN… idk… time will tell.

Hey I understand he’s more upset about a mod “singling him out” when others have used slurs and haven’t been warned.

Valid accusation but in the end, the mods rule the site and that’s that…

I’d like to see the picture, that’s all… Thought it’d be cool…

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/83 "2009-11-09T15:02:03Z")

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OP does have a valid point in an effect that we don’t enforce the rule everytime it’s broken, and offender to “restrained/caught” ratio is very low, but that’s life and we are trying to fix that.

It’s the same reason we mad at tickets, I understand THAT point of the argument.

The rest however is eh…

I’m going to try to tell the cop “You can’t pull me over” line next time :lol

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**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/84 "2009-11-09T15:02:30Z")

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> [@Cossey"](#):
>
> Please, for the love of all things holy, sue me. I would love for you to bring this up in court, and find a lawyer that’ll help present your case. This is a PRIVATE forum. Yes, anyone can join, but it is owned by Vlad. Not the United States. As much as you can post any racial slur you want, I can ban you for whatever I want, with the approval of the owner of the site. I am not a liberal on most cases, but I do stand on a line on where I fall. Please, quit your bitching. You people do not understand what type of image the forum gives off to people, as this has been discussed with mods many a time. We’ve been editing out racial slurs and “threatening” with bans for a while now. Just because it’s you, you go and make a huge thread about it. If you are so butt hurt about it, feel free to delete yourself off the forums like you already did once when you didn’t agree with other members or moderators.
> 
> Holy fucking shit. Travis is being rational.
> 
> Yes, you legally can. Kinda like companies that make 3D movies. Only people with two eyes can see the third dimension. Oh man, should I go sue Disney now?!?!
> 
> +1

I agree with you in my initial argument. I apologize.

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/85 "2009-11-09T15:06:06Z")

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> [@How do I get a car back from out of state?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-i-get-a-car-back-from-out-of-state/25572/4):
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> I agree with you in my initial argument. I apologize.

Thank you.

It takes a big man to admit and claim his mistakes. Right Travis?

Now we can deal with the real issue of better and more equal moderation.

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**Author:** ![Auto0utcast1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast1/32/6546_2.png) [@Auto0utcast1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast1)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/86 "2009-11-09T15:07:59Z")

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> [@Well, somebody had to do it......](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/well-somebody-had-to-do-it/25481/113):
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> Thank you.
> 
> It takes a big man to admit and claim his mistakes. Right Travis?
> 
> Now we can deal with the real issue of better and more equal moderation.

i have admitted several faults. and will continue to deny the accusations that are false. … so about that PM i sent… eh?

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**Author:** ![RocketPunch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rocketpunch/32/6429_2.png) [@RocketPunch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RocketPunch)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/87 "2009-11-09T15:43:08Z")

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![http://tim3n.de/images/post-tits-or-gtfo.thumbnail.png](http://tim3n.de/images/post-tits-or-gtfo.thumbnail.png)

Posting TITS usually will resolve everything.

Just my 2 cents.

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**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/88 "2009-11-09T15:45:09Z")

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Damn you guys really get riled up over this forum nonsense.

Either that, or you are like me and have too much free time on your hands.

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**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/89 "2009-11-09T15:49:39Z")

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> [@Well, somebody had to do it......](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/well-somebody-had-to-do-it/25481/113):
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> Thank you.
> 
> It takes a big man to admit and claim his mistakes. Right Travis?
> 
> Now we can deal with the real issue of better and more equal moderation.

I agree Vov. The problem was I got mad that I was singled out for doing something that 95% of this forum does on a daily basis. When I get mad, the Italian takes over and I say things that don’t always follow a logical path…

After I cooled down I realized I was being a chum. apologized and moved on:

Cossey if we are all out sometime, I owe you a beer for being a numbnut. I should not have attacked you directly and went on to be an ass, I should have directed my focus on the real problem at hand which is the moderation of these types of incedents. If everyone else is doing it and not being punished, why should I? Hope you see where I am coming from here.

But I do agree, IF the forum is going to penalize people for something, it should be universal and more strongly regulated so that this type of thing dosen’t happen.

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/90 "2009-11-09T15:52:29Z")

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> [@Hi everyone](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hi-everyone/25548/121):
>
> Damn **you guys** really get riled up over this forum nonsense.

Please explain your guys immedeatly :shifty

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**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/91 "2009-11-09T16:38:20Z")

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> [@Hi everyone](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hi-everyone/25548/85):
>
> You can NOT be legally banned for what you say or type, as long as it does not have anything to do with being illegal.

then i know a couple of forums …that…:haha

> [@New to the site](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-to-the-site/25550/41):
>
> Board owners need to wake up and get used to the idea that a person has every legal right to defend themselves and just because they ban someone does not mean that the person being banned has no legal rights to pursue the matter.

i think this is one of the most easy-going forums on the internet right now… ok maybe not that close, but this is so far from a strict forum you really cant deny it…

> [@NYSpeed mobile BETA available now...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyspeed-mobile-beta-available-now/24612/22):
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> you do realize that law protects freedom of speech on the INTERNET, not a private forum right?
> 
> …it means you have to get your own site to say what you want.

- 1 :lol

> [@WTB: integra cup holders](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-integra-cup-holders/25558/16):
>
> 99FRC you can’t be serious.
> 
> You’re wrong, ignorant and arrogant on so many levels, I don’t even know where to start.
> 
> Freedom of speech even in life is not obsolute and is limited. You can’t wear a shirt with a racial slur on it to a school, you can’t yell fire in a crowded theater, you can’t swear in a business if they don’t approve it, they will ask you to leave or call the police to make you leave, yes over speech.
> 
> See a similarity? Internet is GLOBAL, US state law is useless on a mass scale. Fine let’s say the server IP is based in US, you still agreed to the contract upon signup. You agreeing to a business contract have to follow it, otherwise we ask you to leave or you’re E-tresspassing.
> 
> Cossey was simply following a rule we established since the start of forum where discriminatory and racial slurs are not allowed. We catch them when we can.
> 
> You say you got black friends? That’s great. Are you friends with every black member? Can you say they are all cool with it?
> 
> If you’re so down with the term, go to Albany High during the day and Arbor Hill at night with your comment on your shirt and see how long you last.
> 
> Seriosly dude? I expected better out of you.

++++++++++ 1 i would rep u but im too lazy to go back and do so… perfectly perfect response

> [@Hey Andy](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hey-andy/25537/14):
>
> Major +1. Vlad thanks for posting this.
> 
> As for those who want to come in and say “but I was not offended so…” that’s all well and good but everyone is DIFFERENT and it is these differences we should be mature enough to **understand and respect**.
> 
> Are we so self-centered that if a word is acceptable to “me” then it is fine to use anywhere, anytime?
> 
> 99FRC, I’m calling you out - post up a picture of you hanging with some black guys, looking like you are chums. I don’t want a photo of you and the token black guy at your workplace / town forcing a smile 'cause he’s surrounded by white folks… Go on and show us all a photo that makes it clear how tight ya’ll are with the brothers…
> 
> It won’t change my opinion that your comment should not be on a public forum, but it would be entertaining for me. So humor an old man.

+1 on the pictures, everyone “has a bunch of black friends”

but srsly, glad you guys figured it out, i dont think making a thread was a good idea, but in this case it worked out good… cossey is just trying to do what he was told to do, as a moderator, enforce the FEW rules that we have… like vlad said, we catch them while we can…cant get every rule breaking while it happens…we are here on a voluntary basis…remember that

for the record tho, that argument on your end was going nowhere, if you sign up on a kids forum and post things like that, they are so in the RIGHT to ban your ass… i’ve been to forums that ban for many many things that have nothing to do with any law breaking…

we all just want to have fun and chill out…so lets do that instead of bitch

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/92 "2009-11-09T16:40:32Z")

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> [@Hey Andy](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hey-andy/25537/13):
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> dear fizzle… please ban yourself for abusing mod powers at same time. thank you.

Dude are you like, jealous that I’m a mod?

Every comment you make towards me is somehow in regard to my moderation, honestly i couldn’t give a shit, I only step in when something really needs handling, there are enough nazi mods on here as it is.

Seriously, you sound like a jealous (why I don’t know), catty, little faggot. Shut your mouth when you’re talking to me, you piece of shit :).

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**Author:** ![Auto0utcast1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast1/32/6546_2.png) [@Auto0utcast1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast1)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/93 "2009-11-09T16:40:48Z")

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> [@SINCE, SENSE, SENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/since-sense-sence/25545/56):
>
> then i know a couple of forums …that…:haha
> 
> i think this is one of the most easy-going forums on the internet right now… ok maybe not that close, but this is so far from a strict forum you really cant deny it…
> 
> - 1 :lol
> 
> ++++++++++ 1 i would rep u but im too lazy to go back and do so… perfectly perfect response
> 
> +1 on the pictures, everyone “has a bunch of black friends”
> 
> but srsly, glad you guys figured it out, i dont think making a thread was a good idea, but in this case it worked out good… cossey is just trying to do what he was told to do, as a moderator, enforce the FEW rules that we have… like vlad said, we catch them while we can…cant get every rule breaking while it happens…we are here on a voluntary basis…remember that
> 
> for the record tho, that argument on your end was going nowhere, if you sign up on a kids forum and post things like that, they are so in the RIGHT to ban your ass… i’ve been to forums that ban for many many things that have nothing to do with any law breaking…
> 
> we all just want to have fun and chill out…so lets do that instead of bitch

ok sooooo yeah… less bitching more tits?

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**Author:** ![Singh1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba8739/32.png) [@Singh1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh1)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/94 "2009-11-09T16:41:37Z")

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benny, everyone is jealous…that you…are a moderator…cuz we all know…that you get all the chicks…if i was only…a… 😕

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/95 "2009-11-09T16:43:01Z")

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I get all the chicks because of my tiny waist and impressively chiseled abs, the fact that I’m a moderator on a local car enthusiast forum seals the deal. It’s like telling someone you’re a rocketship alien doctor engineer.

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/96 "2009-11-09T16:43:12Z")

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Im a honky

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/97 "2009-11-09T16:43:29Z")

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Shuttup cracker

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**Author:** ![Auto0utcast1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast1/32/6546_2.png) [@Auto0utcast1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast1)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/98 "2009-11-09T16:44:49Z")

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> [@Dynoed the R/T](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dynoed-the-r-t/23500/59):
>
> Dude are you like, jealous that I’m a mod?
> 
> Every comment you make towards me somehow regard my moderation, honestly i couldn’t give a shit, I only step in when something really needs handling, there are enough nazi mods on here as it is.
> 
> Seriously, you sound like a catty little faggot. Shut your mouth, you piece of shit :).

there are 2 “mods” that i dont believe are deserving of their position. you and brett. its out of my power to change that in actuality, but i figure if i complain enough and enough attention is brought to the SHITTY job being done, someone in a position to do something might ACTUALLY do it. i dont want a mod job, not in the least, i just want the ones that ARE to do a fucking decent job and you and brett abuse the powers and take it for granted at your whim. you are a joke.

goodday sir.

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**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/99 "2009-11-09T16:44:58Z")

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Everyone on this forum likes to throw tantrums about their ‘rights’ both here and in the real world without actually understanding what their rights even are.

> [@951 winter progress](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/951-winter-progress/19571/247):
>
> It’s like telling someone you’re a rocketship alien doctor engineer.

:rofl

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cossey-ban/248240/100 "2009-11-09T16:46:02Z")

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> [@Auctiva help needed! -Ebay](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/auctiva-help-needed-ebay/25586/3):
>
> Shuttup cracker

watch it whitey

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