# COVID-19/20/21/22 Discussion (NOW COVID-23?)

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**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [July 29, 2021, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120 "2021-07-29T14:26:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/41 "2021-08-24T17:23:40Z")

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> [@drvnkd](#):
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> As JayS says, until I get it or one of my zero close friends and family has major complications, I will be hesitant.

I’ve never said that. I’m not hesitant at all and had my 2 Pfizer shots in April. I’ll likely be getting my 3rd after the 6 month mark in December. My wife and 14 year old daughter are both fully vaccinated as well and my daughter got her shot about a week after it was available to kids her age. I have said hospitalization rate is all we should be caring about and that is becoming a mess in the south.

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/42 "2021-08-24T17:48:50Z")

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Maybe it was not you, I though there was an observation you made about how real covid gets once it hits close to home.

Gotta watch those numbers and make sure they are not inflated.

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**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/43 "2021-08-24T18:43:02Z")

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I used to talk about not wanting to get the Vaccination because I wasn’t sure what kind of long term side affects there would be and I wasn’t really wanting to take a chance with the track record our country has. However, I did get it because I didn’t want to sit at my desk every day for the next year wearing a mask over my face or be limited in select things I can do. I always was hesitant because the vaccines were never actually FDA approved at the time and was only emergency approved which is far different. I mean Pfizer is obviously now FDA approved but there is no saying how true it is or what long term affects could happen. We don’t have years of research or results to show for it. And well… these pharma companies don’t really have the best track record either with loads of recalls over the years of items that were once FDA approved.

The other thing that bothers me about this is that we are being pushed and pushed and pushed to get vaccines while the people pushing us have stocks in the very companies that are giving the vaccinations.

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**Author:** ![HouseS2K](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/houses2k/32/100273_2.png) [@HouseS2K](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HouseS2K)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/44 "2021-08-24T19:56:32Z")

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You don’t think it is coincidence that the FDA approve Pfizer right after this blow out in Afghanistan….

Reminds me how emperor Cumhole would loosen restrictions every time an accuser came forward….coincidence??? I think not.

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**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/45 "2021-08-24T20:30:09Z")

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Again, I get it and see it and I’m feeling that’s the case as well. I just got to the point where I didn’t want to deal with the treatment being different. I personally am not a fan of the masks. I have no want to wear one now that I’m vaccinated and think it’s bs if they try to ask people to wear them now if you are. I personally will walk into that building without it.

Like stated, show me the hospital rates in NY/Erie county or the death rates in this area/NY. It’s not there for me to concern myself. It’s just like the Flu now.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/46 "2021-08-24T22:40:26Z")

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i actually cant believe you guys are taking this seriously still.

cases dont matter, they are simply a function of mass, inaccurate testing, not spread of the illness.

the mortality rate remains pretty consistent.

we’re never going back to normal ever again and we’re never going to find out what really happened and no one will ever be held accountable except for those that are not at fault.

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/47 "2021-08-25T01:37:19Z")

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Lol.

Does the Canadian political elite follow all the requirements?

People are still crazy about it. My wife cleans for people that leave before she gets there and then wait for her to leave before going back in.

She has others that literally work with the public as a trainer, but won’t risk having her clean.

We also have friends that are willing to lose their job because of the threat of vax requirements.

There must be some loophole for these mandates.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 4:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/48 "2021-08-25T04:49:57Z")

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there are no loopholes ☹

but no, it’s worse up here. i just meant you dudes as individuals, not the public at large.

many normies i associate with have resigned themselves to the fact that this is going to be with us for years if not forever now.

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**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/49 "2021-08-25T11:25:02Z")

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Its way better to just be healthy…

Can’t wait for the mandated 20 miles of running a week. Oh wait that doesn’t help anyone’s portfolio.

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/50 "2021-08-25T15:20:22Z")

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I just heard that a certain local company has an HR organization that wants to fire anyone not wearing a mask if unvaccinated, but have not yet done so because there are too many across the country.

Its going to be an interesting few weeks i believe.

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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/51 "2021-08-25T16:09:05Z")

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Just wanted to point out that in the summer, people in southern states spend more time inside while northern states spend more time outside. This situation flips in the winter.

COVID spreads more _inside_.

So yeah, expect the south to get cases in summer while we here get cases in winter.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/52 "2021-08-25T23:15:05Z")

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[https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=186877256712929](https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=186877256712929)

i think the audio is now cut from this video. i cannot find it on YT or rumble.

most of it is the usual stuff we already know but the last 4 minutes are wild.

in trinidad and tobago from March 2020 to April 6, 2021 only 145 died on the island. the vax campaign started on april 6, 2021. in the 4 months since, 1022 have died… 145 in a year vs. 1022 in 4 months.

this dr is attributing the excess death to the vax campaign.

Found it on rumble:

> **[Dr. Michael McDowell "In Response to the Vaccine Pt1"](https://rumble.com/vlnsl8-dr.-michael-mcdowell-in-response-to-the-vaccine-pt1.html)**
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> Re-posted from TT Response's Facebook in case of censorship.

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/53 "2021-08-26T01:51:48Z")

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Good find.  
I’m going to grab some tin foil on my way into the office.

I have not had a chance to check tractor supply for ivermectin.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 3:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/54 "2021-08-26T03:05:47Z")

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you’re not doubting the effectiveness of vitamin I are you?

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 3:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/55 "2021-08-26T03:45:42Z")

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Nope. I thought I had edited my post to add this, but looks like it didn’t save.

Another study saying that vaccines can help viruses to adapt.

> **[Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity:...](https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1)**
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> Background: Reports of waning vaccine-induced immunity against COVID-19 have begun to surface. With that, the comparable long-term protection conferred by previous infection with SARS-CoV-2 remains unclear. Methods: We conducted a retrospective...

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**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 3:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/56 "2021-08-26T03:53:12Z")

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yes i think any rationale person understood that there is no way to create long term synthetic immunity to a respiratory virus and that this would be no different.

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**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/57 "2021-08-26T12:27:05Z")

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> [@bing](#):
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> yes i think any rationale person understood that there is no way to create long term synthetic immunity to a _engineered bioweapon_ and that this would be no different.

fixed.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/58 "2021-08-26T12:39:32Z")

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Do you guys think the government will ever prove China engineered this thing? Do you think any governments are even trying to? I know Joe Xiden never will because he’s bought and owned by China but you would think with a global pandemic SOMEONE would be doing the research.

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**Author:** ![juicedz4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/juicedz4/32/5051_2.png) [@juicedz4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/juicedz4)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/59 "2021-08-26T12:51:15Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> Joe Xiden

QuidproJoe

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**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/60 "2021-08-26T13:22:38Z")

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Wonder how much the politicians are profiting off of the vaccinations. I believe like 40+ Senators have stock in Pfizer. (I understand you need to sell stocks to make the money itself)

Personally I feel no politicians should be able to have stocks in any pharma companies. Maybe that’s just me.

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