# COVID-19/20/21/22 Discussion (NOW COVID-23?) **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [July 29, 2021, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120 "2021-07-29T14:26:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/61 "2021-08-26T14:59:31Z")
Politicians have a conflict of interest if they are discussing policy that effects publicly traded companies. I’m sure insider trading groups would uncover any and all wrong doing. I wonder how many politicians have people investing on their behalf and “legally” ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/62 "2021-08-26T21:11:19Z")
Everything about the origin of covid already exists and has been widely communicated. It is that the folks we are up against are discrediting it and too many of our peers are accepting of the false narrative. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2021, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/63 "2021-08-28T19:27:07Z")
So based… > **[Tommy Robinson News](https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/24417)** > > Tenured Army/Navy doctor confirms the vaccine is more dangerous than the disease to US armed forces ---
**Author:** ![1QIKZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1qikz/32/6112_2.png) [@1QIKZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1QIKZ)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2021, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/64 "2021-08-28T23:36:24Z")
This whole scamdemic has been about rhe same two things its always about. Money and power. The best defense against sickness is a well tested natural immune system. The more we try to circumvent that, the worse we make it. I’d rather roll the dice with an almost completely survivable infection than to let someone inject me with a DNA altering “vaccine” with not even a years history provided by companies designed to make money and pushed by a government that can’t stop fucking me over. The machine and it’s tentacles have made non thinking sheep follow exactly what they want them to and no one will even take a half minute to ask some simple questions. Fear is the best means of convincing people to do what you want them to and that’s exactly what they started with and will keep riding that horse as long as it’ll run. I WILL NOT take that vaccine. I don’t care who tries to convince, force, manipulate me into doing so. Thinking is hard work…but it’s worth it. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/65 "2021-08-31T13:38:28Z")
Maybe all the hospitals turned him away saying their ICU beds were full because they were just inflating their ICU numbers though, since it really isn’t hitting the ICU’s that hard according to some. > **[Veteran dies of treatable illness after waiting hours for ICU bed](https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/569834-veteran-dies-of-treatable-illness-after-waiting-hours-for-icu-bed)** > > Daniel Wilkinson, 46, who served two deployments in Afghanistan, died Sunday of gallstone pancreatitis, a treatable illness, after waiting hours for an ICU bed, ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/66 "2021-08-31T14:55:08Z")
I’ve said that TX and Florida are a different situation than NY. I don’t see this issue being a massive concern in WNY based on the numbers I keep going back and looking at. Maybe I’m wrong but based on the vaccination rate of this state, it shouldn’t get to what those states are seeing. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/67 "2021-08-31T15:07:58Z")
Agreed. It’s unfortunate this is so political now. None of the “blues” are willing to admit Florida handled the pandemic pre-delta better than pretty much any other state. They didn’t crush their economy or education system and had pretty similar covid numbers to states like NY that went full lockdown. The flip side however is now none of the “reds” are willing to admit that Florida and several other red states are doing a lot worse post-delta. As my kid is heading back to school I’m really hoping NY fairs better than these schools in the south have. ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/68 "2021-09-01T12:00:17Z")
That story is a bit messed up. Bellville is a po-dunk town west of Houston. Not sure why they would call hospitals in other states, when they have a man on the verge of death that they can’t treat? He died in route to Houston, which is probably the closest biggest city… sounds like the hospital in Bellville screwed up…you get the person in an ambulance or on a chopper heading to the city and find the exact hospital when they are in route. > [@](#): > > Wilkinson’s mother, Michelle Puget, rushed him to the local emergency room in Bellville, Texas, on Saturday after he started to feel sick. The doctor diagnosed Wilkinson with gallstone pancreatitis, which the Bellville Medical Center is not equipped to treat, the emergency physician who treated Wilkinson, Hasan Kakli, [explained](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaX98KI5aKo&t=43s) on “CBS This Morning.” ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/69 "2021-09-01T12:09:18Z")
But that doesn’t sell stories. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/70 "2021-09-01T13:26:56Z")
The doctors said they were calling hospitals in Texas first but couldn’t find a bed. At that point you’re going to work outward and each one of those other states would be within lifeflight range. It took 7 hours to find that ICU bed in a Houston VA. ---
**Author:** ![OfficerK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4da419/32.png) [@OfficerK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OfficerK)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/71 "2021-09-01T14:03:51Z")
These beds arent full of covid patients but rather unstaffed due to forced vax policies. ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/72 "2021-09-01T14:45:55Z")
There must be similar stories to that one out there by now. I could not quickly find any up to date info on beds. I don’t recall hearing many of those stories during V1 hospital overruns. It’s wrong, but my 1st thought was that it was a Kenmore Mercy quality hospital a VA hospital. (I’m not sure how those places are these days, but they really sucked when I was young, so I’m bitter) Another guy I know at the office got the covid. Vaccinated and young. I believe another also had it as well, but It’s none of my business to ask if he had the shot. There is now a much more threatening policy update for our unvaxed this week… ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/73 "2021-09-01T14:52:21Z")
But it is your business! IT’S EVERYONE’S BUSINESS TO KNOW WHO THE BAD PEOPLE AREEEEEEEE. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/74 "2021-09-01T15:12:59Z")
> [@drvnkd](#): > > There is now a much more threatening policy update for our unvaxed this week Like get the shot or get out threatening, or just painful like you have to get tested every X weeks like NY is doing with teachers? Now that it’s fully approved not an emergency use things are going to get interesting. There is already a ton of established case law on mandatory vaccinations in school, but there hasn’t been a lot about adults. Jacobson v. Massachusetts however did rule that a state could mandate the smallpox vaccine during a smallpox outbreak, and it was affirmed in Zucht v. King. In modern times corporations haven’t had to deal with this because almost everyone has been vaccinated against diseases like measles, mumps etc when they were in school. ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/75 "2021-09-01T16:12:08Z")
Sounds like a break down in communication to me. My wife was a nurse when we lived in Texas and still has some really good friends there. I specifically asked if how their ICU beds are and they said FINE. They did mention that they are short staffed, so maybe hospitals are just refusing patients due to staffing? No idea unless they were only calling hospitals that were in their network or something. There is like 200 hospitals in Houston. ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/76 "2021-09-01T16:26:50Z")
> BlockquoteLike get the shot or get out threatening, or just painful like you have to get tested every X weeks like NY is doing with teachers? Not yet. Just noting punishment if caught in violation. Imagine being the 1st one to with the lawsuit where forced medical requirements have lead to some sort of emotional trauma. It’s not rape if you consent, right? (yes, 100% overly dramatic comment) ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/77 "2021-09-01T20:28:32Z")
It’s like Bertrand Chaffee “hospital” - shit small building but it’s the only hospital for miles. People think these hospitals that are at capacity are all like ECMC or Buff Gen. ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/78 "2021-09-01T20:37:01Z")
Curious, who would be okay with traveling to Florida anytime soon? Vaccinated. ---
**Author:** ![1QIKZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1qikz/32/6112_2.png) [@1QIKZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1QIKZ)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 1:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/79 "2021-09-02T01:45:01Z")
Here’s a little thinker nugget. Since mask restrictions were loosened some months back, where only vaccinated were allowed to go without the face diaper, what percentage of un-jabbed posers were abusing the honor system? Hell, my observation is anyone I see wearing the face filter is just another brainwashed sheep afraid of everyone and everything around them. That being said, if all those posers were running around maskless, shouldn’t we be seeing Covidic Armageddon in NY? Shouldn’t there be refers lined up outside hospitals for all the bodies? Went to the Corn Fest this summer and 98% of everyone there wasn’t face diapered. I still haven’t seen the massive spike scientists have lead me to believe was inevitable with such reckless activity. ---
**Author:** ![HouseS2K](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/houses2k/32/100273_2.png) [@HouseS2K](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HouseS2K)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/80 "2021-09-02T11:02:55Z")
A local friend of mine did a poll on Instagram with his 2700 followers and got 47% vax and 46% un vax as a result. So I agree, how come NYS isn’t a wild fire with cases? [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120.md?page=5)