# COVID-19/20/21/22 Discussion (NOW COVID-23?)

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**Created:** [July 29, 2021, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120 "2021-07-29T14:26:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-20-21-22-discussion-now-covid-23/1414120/1398 "2023-10-21T12:18:26Z")

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> [@Onyx\_Z32](#):
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> Somewhat related… Apparently we were lied to about Phenylephrine.

A little deeper on this

> “Pharmacists were telling us, this doesn’t work,” Hatton said.
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> Approved for use nearly a century ago, phenylephrine is listed as an ingredient in pills, syrups and liquids such as Advil Sinus Congestion & Pain, Flonase Headache & Allergy Relief, and DayQuil Cold & Flu.
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> But studies over the years have shown that it is not more effective to clear nasal congestion than a placebo when taken orally. Scientists believe that is partly because almost all of it is [inactivated in the gut and liver](https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-many-cold-medicines-dont-work-to-relieve-congestion-11671656745?mod=article_inline) before it reaches the bloodstream.

> **[These Are the Two Scientists Taking Down Cold Medicines That Don’t Work](https://www.wsj.com/health/healthcare/cold-medicine-phenylephrine-scientists-740350b5)**
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> Randy Hatton and Leslie Hendeles have spent years fighting to remove over-the-counter decongestants with phenylephrine from store shelves

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