# COVID-19 Pandemic Thread \[NY Now Closes All Biz\] **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [March 18, 2020, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-pandemic-thread-ny-now-closes-all-biz/1413978 "2020-03-18T16:56:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 54
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-pandemic-thread-ny-now-closes-all-biz/1413978/1061 "2021-06-04T11:53:39Z")
There’s plenty of data from reputable sources that showed asymptomatic spread was\is happening and was a major contributor to why covid was so hard to contain. Even if you want to discount all experts as some grand conspiracy I’ve personally witnessed asymptomatic spread. My neighbor got it from one of his friends who had no symptoms while they were hanging out. 2 days later my neighbor’s friend developed symptoms, got tested and was positive. My neighbor and his wife both ended up with it several days later and they hadn’t seen anyone else. I know lots of people with similar stories. They didn’t get it from being coughed on, just near people who didn’t know they had it having casual conversation. Very early in the pandemic Michael Osterholm explained why asymptomatic spread was happening and it was because the viral counts were incredibly high before people were symptomatic so even breathing normally was releasing a lot of the virus. The little bitch wearing it while having sex with his wife though… fuck him. I have my doubts if that story is even real since the whole thing is setting off my troll alarm. ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-pandemic-thread-ny-now-closes-all-biz/1413978/1062 "2021-06-04T12:04:25Z")
It’s definitely a shock article to get clicks and ad revenue lol. If people like that truly exist then I’m ready for the next lab created virus to wipe us out. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-pandemic-thread-ny-now-closes-all-biz/1413978/1063 "2021-06-04T12:19:19Z")
I’m 95% sure it’s fake. The other 5% is because I still see people alone in their cars with all the windows up wearing masks… ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-pandemic-thread-ny-now-closes-all-biz/1413978/1064 "2021-06-04T15:06:50Z")
can you provide a good source for documented asymptomatic spread? not an article but a proper medical study? I ask because i remain convinced that evidence of asymptomatic spread is circumstantial or speculative. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-pandemic-thread-ny-now-closes-all-biz/1413978/1065 "2021-06-04T17:17:46Z")
> **[SARS-CoV-2 Transmission From People Without COVID-19 Symptoms](https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2774707)** > > This decision analytical model assesses the proportion of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) transmissions in the community that likely occur from persons without symptoms. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-pandemic-thread-ny-now-closes-all-biz/1413978/1066 "2021-06-04T17:59:16Z")
reading that study is pretty frustrating. I dont want to go too far down the rabbit hole here but the words relative, estimates, analytical model etc form the entirety of the study based on this quote: “The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention determined that this decision analytical study, which **involved no enrollment of human subjects** , **did not require institutional review board approval**.” and then: **For all estimates we used data from a meta-analysis of 8 studies from China to set the incubation period** at a median of 5 days with 95% of symptomatic individuals developing symptoms by day 12.[17](https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2774707#zoi201061r17) Therefore the daily ( _t_ ) probability of symptom onset ( _pso_ ) for individuals who develop symptoms was: and Uncertainty also remains about the proportion of individuals with infection who are never symptomatic ( _pns_ ) and the relative contribution of these infections to transmission – im sorry but this is a meaningless study based on compounding estimates based on pernicious data. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2021, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-pandemic-thread-ny-now-closes-all-biz/1413978/1067 "2021-06-04T18:13:06Z")
We can sit here posting studies for days on end. > **[Analysis of Asymptomatic and Presymptomatic Transmission in SARS-CoV-2...](https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/27/4/20-4576_article)** > > Presymptomatic Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 We should also note that there’s a difference between asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic in regards to spread. Asymptomatic means you NEVER develop symptoms, while pre-symptomatic means you’re infected and develop symptoms days later. It looks like there’s a big difference in spread between truly asymptomatic people and those who exposed others while they were just pre-symptomatic. Every study aside, I’ve witnessed pre-symptomatic spread with my neighbors case. I’m friends with them and the person who infected them and I know for a fact on the day they were together he had zero symptoms. I even said hi to him from my driveway (and thankfully didn’t walk over because I was busy). Really it’s just common sense that covid is spreading from people who aren’t showing symptoms because it never would have become a 170+ million people infected pandemic if all you had to do was avoid people with symptoms. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2021, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-pandemic-thread-ny-now-closes-all-biz/1413978/1068 "2021-06-06T03:18:17Z")
I will grant you the significance of pre-symptomatic people given that you cannot know whether you are pre or asy until you show syptoms. however, that study also sucks. sample size of 59,all in the same german town and the study was based on phone interviews and a questionaire. some of the people avoided the calls entirely so only 53 people participated. notwithstanding your personal experience, which does matter but is not relevant (anecdotal to) the broader population, these studies are extremely weak and certainly do not rise to a level of confidence for major societal disruption. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-pandemic-thread-ny-now-closes-all-biz/1413978/1069 "2021-06-08T01:13:28Z")
> Jacobs said if the border is not opened by June 22, he’s pushing for at least the U.S. to open its side of the border unilaterally to put pressure on Canada. > **[Separated families continue push for reopening of U.S.-Canadian border](https://www.wkbw.com/news/local-news/separated-families-continue-push-for-reopening-of-u-s-canadian-border)** > > Shannon Harder has been protesting nearly every Sunday with her children because her husband has been in Canada. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 5:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-pandemic-thread-ny-now-closes-all-biz/1413978/1070 "2021-06-08T05:15:53Z")
[https://www.facebook.com/melynnie.kalosza.5/videos/617259493003286](https://www.facebook.com/melynnie.kalosza.5/videos/617259493003286) ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-pandemic-thread-ny-now-closes-all-biz/1413978/1071 "2021-06-08T19:32:56Z")
Some good stuff in there. Terrible rapper though. ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-pandemic-thread-ny-now-closes-all-biz/1413978/1072 "2021-06-08T19:49:49Z")
It’s because she’s white. Phew…there, I said it. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-pandemic-thread-ny-now-closes-all-biz/1413978/1073 "2021-06-08T20:41:35Z")
here is an embedded version: [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/2/6/26dae642ef11e5232223517d1769b1f110e73e00.jpeg "PARRHESIA by Kayla Henry") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0wDdMeGBfM) ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-pandemic-thread-ny-now-closes-all-biz/1413978/1074 "2021-06-09T02:52:32Z")
It really is worth a watch, but it will have zero impact to those that just want everyone to get along. So many people are so easily offended these days. Gotta go watch handmaid tail now. Be back later 😃 ---
**Author:** ![juicedz4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/juicedz4/32/5051_2.png) [@juicedz4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/juicedz4)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-pandemic-thread-ny-now-closes-all-biz/1413978/1075 "2021-06-09T15:01:54Z")
My work just set a full return to work date of 13 Sept ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-pandemic-thread-ny-now-closes-all-biz/1413978/1076 "2021-06-09T19:00:47Z")
![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/a/5/a534f6436d06f8bf80f198b628a41db4c9d19451.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![drvnkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drvnkd/32/109615_2.png) [@drvnkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drvnkd)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-pandemic-thread-ny-now-closes-all-biz/1413978/1077 "2021-06-09T23:13:52Z")
![Screenshot_20210603-143208_Instagram](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/8/2/82ee26763999011f9b911b10b1f1833ebcd50d7c.jpeg) ![Screenshot_20210602-105005_Instagram](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/6/5/650b7096a90e184f384b190b0bc62cf91ce1bffc.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2021, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-pandemic-thread-ny-now-closes-all-biz/1413978/1078 "2021-06-13T16:58:42Z")
> **[WATCH: 2018 Video Shows Wuhan Lab Partner Scheming on How to Make Money from...](https://thenationalpulse.com/breaking/wuhan-lab-partner-scheming-on-pandemic-profits/)** > > While speaking at a conference in 2018, Wuhan Institute of Virology collaborator Dr. Ralph Baric advised attendees on how to "make money" in the next pandemic. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 1:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-pandemic-thread-ny-now-closes-all-biz/1413978/1079 "2021-06-14T01:19:10Z")
expect this to be gone in weeks [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du2wm5nhTXY) ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/covid-19-pandemic-thread-ny-now-closes-all-biz/1413978/1080 "2021-06-16T14:18:37Z")
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