# Crazy Bob throws out a 4 door challenge **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [October 14, 2009, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/crazy-bob-throws-out-a-4-door-challenge/74820 "2009-10-14T06:41:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/crazy-bob-throws-out-a-4-door-challenge/74820/21 "2009-10-29T12:16:57Z")
> **Jalopnik** Some “Mystery Driver” just turned a 2:45… Some say he roams the woods at night, foraging for wolves… :snky: ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/crazy-bob-throws-out-a-4-door-challenge/74820/22 "2009-10-29T13:19:09Z")
What was the mystery driver driving? ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/crazy-bob-throws-out-a-4-door-challenge/74820/23 "2009-10-29T13:27:23Z")
^^^CTS-V > Mystery Driver is none other than Johnny O’Connell of Corvette racing fame. > If you take GM’s ringers out of the equation, a BMW M3 won the CTS-V challenge. GM won’t be mentioning that, we suspect.^DP Just saying 😃 apparently, all the CTS-Vs that beat the M3 where driven by race car drivers, where the M3 was driven by the owner ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/crazy-bob-throws-out-a-4-door-challenge/74820/24 "2009-10-29T13:28:22Z")
John Heinricy is an engineer… ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/crazy-bob-throws-out-a-4-door-challenge/74820/25 "2009-10-29T13:31:05Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > John Heinricy is an engineer… Thought he was also apart of the vette racing team member EDIT: Jesus… do some research before posting > John Heinricy is a U.S. automotive engineer and **noted racecar driver.** > Heinricy has had a long and distinguished career at General Motors, serving as assistant chief engineer for the Corvette and as Director of the GM Performance Division. John retired from GM in October 2008 > **He also campaigns a variety of GM products in SCCA competition, winning the annual SCCA National Championship Runoffs in Corvettes and Camaros , Firebirds and a Chevrolet Co** balt. > In 2007, Heinricy claimed his 11th SCCA Runoffs championship (driving a Chevy Cobalt in Showroom Stock C). Heinricy presently holds the third most Runoffs titles, behind Duane Davis (13) and Jerry Hansen (27). > John also has a sub 8 minute time in a Cadillac CTS-V around the Nurburgring. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/crazy-bob-throws-out-a-4-door-challenge/74820/26 "2009-10-29T13:33:06Z")
He was the chief engineer for the vette and he races GM stuff for promotional shit. He’s not a full time racecar driver. Who knows, the M3 driver may have just as much experience ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/crazy-bob-throws-out-a-4-door-challenge/74820/27 "2009-10-29T13:37:19Z")
He campaigned for them for over 13 years… EDIT: actually since 1981 He is also the performance division test car drive [http://www.hotrod.com/thehistoryof/hrdp\_0704\_gm\_performance\_test\_driver/index.html](http://www.hotrod.com/thehistoryof/hrdp_0704_gm_performance_test_driver/index.html) he is also part of the vette racing team [http://www.phoenixperformance.net/phoenix\_heinricy.html](http://www.phoenixperformance.net/phoenix_heinricy.html) ---
**Author:** ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/crazy-bob-throws-out-a-4-door-challenge/74820/28 "2009-10-29T13:41:10Z")
WAHHHHH THE M3 GOT BEAT BY A FUCKING ENGINEER IN A CADDILAC. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/crazy-bob-throws-out-a-4-door-challenge/74820/29 "2009-10-29T13:41:49Z")
meh, if they had allowed SUVs on the track, the trailblazer SS would have smoked the M3 for sure. ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/crazy-bob-throws-out-a-4-door-challenge/74820/30 "2009-10-29T13:44:53Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > He was the chief engineer for the vette and he races GM stuff for promotional shit. He’s not a full time racecar driver. Who knows, the M3 driver may have just as much experience Probably this kid? **Name:** Michael C. **Hometown:** Long Island, NY Our second Michael has trained at Skip Barber. At just 21 years old, Michael is the younger driver in the Challenge. He owns a BMW M3. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/crazy-bob-throws-out-a-4-door-challenge/74820/31 "2009-10-29T13:46:31Z")
Great. He’s a retired engineer during the day. There’s no way of knowing the level of the owners. If Michael Schumacher owned a CTS-V he’d probably walk all of those times. ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/crazy-bob-throws-out-a-4-door-challenge/74820/32 "2009-10-29T13:49:17Z")
Well Aaron Link is a development engineer. Also did some time in the MT6 V around the ring. There is a difference between having a full time job plusracing as a hobby and full time racing. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/crazy-bob-throws-out-a-4-door-challenge/74820/33 "2009-10-29T13:54:32Z")
regardless, this was an engineered experiment and they got what they wanted. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/crazy-bob-throws-out-a-4-door-challenge/74820/34 "2009-10-29T13:57:14Z")
Chris Fairman must suck at driving :lol: ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/crazy-bob-throws-out-a-4-door-challenge/74820/35 "2009-10-29T14:09:12Z")
> **Jalopnik [Al Navarro]:** Hope for the rest of us: I caught Corvette hotshoe Johnny O’Connell talking to Michael Cooper (M3 guy) and Johnny seemed genuinely impressed with Cooper’s performance. O’Connell said “You hit all your marks, man.” The extent of Cooper’s training/experience? The Skip Barber advanced class and a few arrive and drives. **Oh, and Forza 2**. Walter Mittys of the world, rejoice. You gotta love it. :tup: ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/crazy-bob-throws-out-a-4-door-challenge/74820/36 "2009-10-29T14:10:28Z")
Also interesting: > **[Al Navarro]:** After my laps (I was a passenger, btw), I spoke to Michael Cooper, the winning M3 driver. He had just gotten out of a CTS-V himself…and said something like “I could probably find another 3 seconds in that car [the CTS] vs. my M3. The brakes are amazing.” ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/crazy-bob-throws-out-a-4-door-challenge/74820/37 "2009-10-29T14:31:21Z")
Can’t wait to own one of these in 2011. ---
**Author:** ![eMKay](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/emkay/32/7428_2.png) [@eMKay](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/eMKay)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/crazy-bob-throws-out-a-4-door-challenge/74820/38 "2009-10-29T15:14:50Z")
> [@BigRon](#): > > Well Aaron Link is a development engineer. Also did some time in the MT6 V around the ring. > > There is a difference between having a full time job plusracing as a hobby and full time racing. Not really, for every pro race driver there are 100 amateurs equally fast. The difference is luck, getting the job. ---
**Author:** ![RLB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rlb/32/5196_2.png) [@RLB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RLB)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/crazy-bob-throws-out-a-4-door-challenge/74820/39 "2009-10-30T08:32:44Z")
Kid who drove the M3 was a local. Only ones to beat him were the ringers in CTS-V’s. ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/crazy-bob-throws-out-a-4-door-challenge/74820/40 "2009-10-30T08:42:07Z")
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