# Creatine **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 22, 2006, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/creatine/186385 "2006-11-22T19:02:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/creatine/186385/21 "2006-11-23T12:44:18Z")
& u do? dont sound like it! ---
**Author:** ![red04cavy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5fc32e/32.png) [@red04cavy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/red04cavy)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/creatine/186385/22 "2006-11-23T13:09:10Z")
I am no expert by any means, but I was always told that Ethyl Ester creatine is actually more effective than monohydrate. From what I understand, ethyl ester helps in that you gain less water weight than with monohydrate. I was also told that you can take a thermo (fat burner like hydroxycut) with ethyl ester, where with monohydrate you can’t because thermos cancel out the effect of monohydrate. Again, I am no expert, but this is what I have been told by a few heavy weight lifters I know. ---
**Author:** ![imported\_Hero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ccd318/32.png) [@imported\_Hero](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_Hero)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/creatine/186385/23 "2006-11-23T13:54:54Z")
The biggest difference between Ethyl Ester Creatine and Creatine monohydrate is the absorption rate. EEC is absorbed up to 10 times faster (claimed) than the monohydrate version. In addition to being more soluble in water than monohydrate, EEC is FAT soluble. Creatine is very important to replenishing ATP. ATP is the primary energy producing molecule for bursts of vigorous muscle contraction. If you are going to lift weights or train in a manner that rapidly and repeatedly drains your ATP levels, your body will respond to a creatine supplement. People that do not see the benefits of creatine supplementation probably do not or have never trained in this fashion. Lifting light weights for high reps without even coming close to muscle failure or jogging/running long distances does not deplete your stores of ATP very quickly, nor does it drain them completely. HIT training to failure, full body circuit training, sprints, and interval runs are activities that deplete ATP very quickly. Replenishing ATP quickly allows for increased sets, longer ALL OUT EFFORT, more reps to failure, and more intense interval runs. ---
**Author:** ![EXTtoG35](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/67e7ee/32.png) [@EXTtoG35](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EXTtoG35)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/creatine/186385/24 "2006-11-23T16:15:50Z")
I didn’t notice any gain from mono, N0-xplode was awesome, but $$. ---
**Author:** ![yelo69](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yelo69/32/6023_2.png) [@yelo69](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yelo69)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/creatine/186385/25 "2006-11-23T16:37:55Z")
> [@internet connection problems](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/internet-connection-problems/26034/6): > > again, smart asses have to reply to cover the fact they don’t know dick. creatine is safe, and it does work. it doesn’t give “bacne”-steroids do, nice try though. its not a waste of money either. if you take it properly and the right amount, the results will be great. you only need around 5-10 grams per day, and there is no loading peroid needed. your better off in getting plain creatine, and mixing it with water. no-xplode, cell-tech, etc have a rep for bloationg you, but thats because there is a ton of suger in the drinks with the creatine. sugar does help release it faster, but it will release on its own. if you and a friend start taking it, and he takes cell-tech, and you take regular creatine, he will get results faster in the 1st few weeks, but after about a month or so, it will even out. > > creatine doesn’t shut down your kidneys, it doesn’t give a temper, it doesn’t give roid rage, etc. in case anyone didn’t know, creatine is found naturally in red meat. mostly steaks. did anyone ever get roid rage from eating a sirloin? in the late 70’s, early 80’s, bodybuilders who ate more steak then those eating chicken, fish were getting bigger, and they did studies, etc, and found out the effects of creatine on the muscle system. long story short, when those lifters who ate only fish/chicken starting taking a powdered creatine, they caught up to those who ate steaks. > > creatine works by allowing your muscle bodies to hold more water, that is where the so called bloating comes from. when your muscles are swelled with water, they expand, and are bigger, which allows you to lift more weight, and go at a higher intensity. once you stop taking it, which you should every 4 weeks for a 1 week, you should keep the strength you gained, because you didn’t take a testosarone booster.(steroids, andro, tribulis, etc). when you take those, you lose a lot of strength when your off because your muscles adapt to higher testosarone level, your not raising it with creatine. your gains will not be as great as with a testosarone bosster, but they will reamain after you get off it, and thats bonus of taking creatine. > > it is not a lot of $. i get 2.2lbs for around $30, and its from eas, which is a very good brand. i recommend eas, gnc pro-performance, muscletech, and sci-fit. all are very good quality. honestly, if you want a serious answer, and want it accurate, just pm on here, and i’ll give it to you. 1/2 of the people who responded on this don’t know shit about supplements/lifting. Geeze…you sound like the guy from the Oxyclean commercial. ---
**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/creatine/186385/26 "2006-11-23T16:54:07Z")
> [@In need of helping hands ......](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/in-need-of-helping-hands/25993/32): > > Geeze…you sound like the guy from the Oxyclean commercial. 🤣 go natural…real men lift with nothing follow a good diet thats all ---
**Author:** ![Orr89rocz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac91a4/32.png) [@Orr89rocz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Orr89rocz)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/creatine/186385/27 "2006-11-23T18:48:53Z")
> if you take it properly and the right amount, the results will be great. you only need around 5-10 grams per day, and there is no loading peroid needed. when ur new to takin creatine your suppose to load up on it by taking a few days to consume multiple servings of around 5 grams. then you can go take two 5 gram servings daily. i didnt notice anything after about a month and a half…but probly should have kept on it. but nitro explosion is insane and does work well. the creatine dose is mild at 2 grams, but its the energy it gives you that really helps your performance. ---
**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/creatine/186385/28 "2006-11-23T19:35:10Z")
> [@STi 6K dump.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sti-6k-dump/26047/2): > > but its the energy it gives you that really helps your performance. The energy was a selling point for me. When I was light, I didn’t eat as much and felt the effects. When I changed jobs, I was able to eat when I wanted and the combination of that and the creatine completely turned me around. Since i quit it, you can manipulate your diet to create the same effects I remember from the creatine. Just adding a big basket of ramdom fruit amazed me. Thats been a while now though… now im just a lazy fat ass. :sadwavey: ---
**Author:** ![06se-r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/0/c5a1d2/32.png) [@06se-r](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/06se-r)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/creatine/186385/29 "2006-11-23T20:28:39Z")
hero, thank you for a solid answer:bigthumb: [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/creatine/186385.md?page=1)