# Cruise & Info for September 14th Track Day
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cruise-info-for-september-14th-track-day/34481
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [August 27, 2007, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cruise-info-for-september-14th-track-day/34481 "2007-08-27T17:14:03Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2007, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cruise-info-for-september-14th-track-day/34481/1 "2007-08-27T17:14:03Z")
We’ll be meeting at Mighty Taco (2309 Eggert Road, Tonawanda, NY for the new people) at 2pm. **We leave for Dunnville at 2:30 SHARP.**
If you’re late, just meet us up there.
**Everyone should have their own directions.** This should be painfully obvious. We’re not going to stop everyone else from getting there on time if one person gets stuck at the border or falls behind.
Once you get to the track, immediately start to remove loose items, check tire pressure, etc. When you’re track and tech ready, line up on the pit road (paved blacktop) and pop your hood. The first 12 people to line up will be the first 12 on the track.
**Sometime around 4:00** we’ll be having another drivers meeting so we can further discuss improvements and procedures for the day. Drop what you’re doing and come into the building. As soon as we’re done with the meeting and whoever is flagging is set, we’ll tech and get cars on the track.
**This time around we’re not going to have run groups.** When you’re ready to run, pull up to whoever is flagging and wait for them to give you the all clear to head out onto the track. There are only 12 cars allowed at a time on the track. If you’ve been out there for a long time and you see a line of people waiting to head out, take a break and head into the pits to give someone else the chance to run. If you’re being a track hog, whoever is flagging has the right to flag you in. This way we’ll maximize our time.
Drivers please let those who are flagging know where debris is on the track. We might need to flag everyone in and take 5 minutes to clean an area during the day.
Now to those who have been there before: **Do we run the track in reverse? If so, when?**
It’s less technical, it’s faster and it makes the process of pitting and passing easier. But it’s up to you guys so vote in the poll. :tup:
**Remember the “muffler” rule!**
[quote=“Onyx Z32"”]
**_VERY IMPORTANT!_**
I just spoke with the track’s owner - all cars _do need_ to have something attached to the exhaust that _looks like a muffler_… although it doesn’t need to act like one. They are required by law now to take pictures of these _“mufflers”_ on all of the cars so at any time they can show the pictures to authority’s to prove that they indeed had _“mufflers”_ on them.
He apologizes for any inconvenience this will cause us, but he has to do what he can to keep the track from being shut down!
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PLEASE VOLUNTEER TO FLAG!
We can’t have a track day without someone flagging, and I can’t do it the whole time (I want to film! 🙂 )
**People offering to flag list:**
1. MPD47
2. OneFastMonkey
3. copperlegend
4. Quattro Krant
5. Xander
6. Anonymity
7. dtvburns
8. 90NA300ZX
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**Paid List:**
1. 01AudiS4
2. Xander
3. RedrRocket 1
4. RedrRocket 2
5. 87conquestTSi
6. Jeller
7. Maksim2000
8. dmoffitt
9. FuzzyFish
10. somedude
11. 84\_Supra
12. bottomsUP
13. InnTune
14. jmercado567
15. jason8225
16. dtvburns
17. POOPRA
18. theblue
19. Ishodu
20. Rocket SLC 1
21. Quattro Krant
22. Rocket SLC 2
23. Anonymity
24. MXS
25. Jim1234664
26. 93z24
27. herman
28. TunerFreak
29. MPD47
30. eesti x2
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### Author:  [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2007, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cruise-info-for-september-14th-track-day/34481/2 "2007-08-27T17:50:09Z")
Of course, I will flag some and help anyone who needs it as usual. Josh you riding up with me again?
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### Author:  [@Anonymity](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Anonymity)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2007, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cruise-info-for-september-14th-track-day/34481/3 "2007-08-27T18:54:08Z")
i am in for 50-50, now i just have to complete the car…
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### Author:  [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2007, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cruise-info-for-september-14th-track-day/34481/4 "2007-08-27T19:03:17Z")
FYI, for those who have never run reverse. It has a higher average speed, but a lower top speed if you take the correct line and is quite fun.
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### Author:  [@OneFastMonkey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OneFastMonkey)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2007, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cruise-info-for-september-14th-track-day/34481/5 "2007-08-27T19:11:22Z")
Josh,
Looking to ride up with Xander possibly so I can flag or run a camera or whatever. Let me know.
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### Author:  [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2007, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cruise-info-for-september-14th-track-day/34481/6 "2007-08-27T19:43:12Z")
I’d vote reverse, ALL OUTSIDE, for big speed on the back going into the combo:
Sunset Sweep -\> Club -\> Paddock
But, my vote wouldn’t count. That and it would create a 30 second course safe for 5 cars at a time.
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### Author:  [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2007, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cruise-info-for-september-14th-track-day/34481/7 "2007-08-27T19:44:12Z")
All outside would be sooooo boring.
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### Author:  [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2007, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cruise-info-for-september-14th-track-day/34481/8 "2007-08-27T19:46:06Z")
I find back to back 190\* boring 😕
I guess it’s fun if you like to bang through gears.
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### Author:  [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2007, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cruise-info-for-september-14th-track-day/34481/9 "2007-08-27T19:53:04Z")
“Paddock” and “Club” are my two least favorite turns on the track, so a course that consisted of only them would be pretty much worthless IMO.
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### Author:  [@dmoffitt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dmoffitt)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2007, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cruise-info-for-september-14th-track-day/34481/10 "2007-08-27T21:04:36Z")
I would prefer “normal” but I suppose a LITTLE reverse time (last group?) would be ok…
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### Author:  [@dmoffitt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dmoffitt)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2007, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cruise-info-for-september-14th-track-day/34481/11 "2007-08-27T21:05:41Z")
PS - re: on-track time, learn from my mis-hap last time, let your car cool… your brakes (and for most, the ride home) will thank you 😉
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### Author:  [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2007, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cruise-info-for-september-14th-track-day/34481/12 "2007-08-27T21:05:47Z")
Dave, you’ll prefer reverse, trust me 😉
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### Author:  [@Quattro\_Krant](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quattro_Krant)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2007, 5:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cruise-info-for-september-14th-track-day/34481/13 "2007-08-28T05:42:19Z")
I say stick with what works, 1/2 time “normal”, half the time “reverse”. I love the long sweeping left hander when the course is run “backwards” that leads into the 90 degree turn.
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### Author:  [@copperlegend](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/copperlegend)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2007, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cruise-info-for-september-14th-track-day/34481/14 "2007-08-28T07:04:11Z")
I can flag for a while too, I’ll be driving up with theblue
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### Author:  [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2007, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cruise-info-for-september-14th-track-day/34481/15 "2007-08-28T08:34:49Z")
I voted 50/50… I like both… reverse is a lot more fun but less technical so less learning and getting better.
when we do reverse we could try including dagmar’s curves? I can’t decide if this would make it more interesting.
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### Author:  [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2007, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cruise-info-for-september-14th-track-day/34481/16 "2007-08-28T08:42:02Z")
Aaron, Dagmar is SUPER tight and wont allow you to squeeze the throttle into the mini straight like Len’s will fyi. It’ll turn into a drag race…
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### Author:  [@Quattro\_Krant](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quattro_Krant)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2007, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cruise-info-for-september-14th-track-day/34481/17 "2007-08-28T08:50:07Z")
Just run it like we ran it in August and that will be perfect
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### Author:  [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2007, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cruise-info-for-september-14th-track-day/34481/18 "2007-08-28T08:50:40Z")
Thanks guys of offering to flag :tup:
I’m going to setup flagging times for you guys so everyone knows where they should be when.
[quote=“theblue,post:15,topic:34481"”]
when we do reverse we could try including dagmar’s curves? I can’t decide if this would make it more interesting.
[/quote]
A few years ago they didn’t have that “Len’s” curve so you had to use “Dagmar.” I only ran using “Dagmar” in normal configuration, but I do think it would make things more interesting.
It would turn the “center straight” into almost a dragstrip since that 90-Degree turn scrubs off so much speed.
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### Author:  [@Quattro\_Krant](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quattro_Krant)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2007, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cruise-info-for-september-14th-track-day/34481/19 "2007-08-28T10:28:03Z")
[quote=“Onyx Z32,post:18,topic:34481"”]
Thanks guys of offering to flag :tup:
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I said in one of the threads previously that I’d be in for a half hour of flagging, don’t know if you remember that but when you make the list throw me in the mix also. And I’ll try and remember to bring some fly paper and bug spray for the classroom.
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### Author:  [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2007, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cruise-info-for-september-14th-track-day/34481/20 "2007-08-28T10:29:42Z")
[quote=“Quattro Krant,post:19,topic:34481"”]
And I’ll try and remember to bring some fly paper and bug spray for the classroom.
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lol, it’s a nice place, it just needs AC.
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