# CTS-v2 vs. M5 **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [August 21, 2008, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cts-v2-vs-m5/53663 "2008-08-21T19:28:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![JaysGreenLX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jaysgreenlx/32/7321_2.png) [@JaysGreenLX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JaysGreenLX)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cts-v2-vs-m5/53663/41 "2008-08-26T19:53:19Z")
I am really liking the Cadillac line up. ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cts-v2-vs-m5/53663/42 "2008-08-27T17:36:28Z")
I like how you skewed the stats to the favor of the CTS you pathetic fanboi. The M5 tops out at 204mph and gets a rated 16-23mpg. Having been in both _gasp_. I can say that I like the CTS a lot, and hate the transmission in the M5, so I can honestly say the winner of this arguement is the e39 m5 and first gen CTSV. ---
**Author:** ![Shockwave179](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shockwave179/32/7496_2.png) [@Shockwave179](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shockwave179)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cts-v2-vs-m5/53663/43 "2008-08-27T18:55:53Z")
> [@MPD47](#): > > so I can honestly say the winner of this arguement is the e39 m5 and first gen CTSV. LOL that totally blind-sided me. Anyway I love both cars, but I can’t help but love the CTS-V’s interior. ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cts-v2-vs-m5/53663/44 "2008-08-27T19:57:26Z")
I did not skew anything [http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Content/Vehicles/2008/M/M5Sedan/default.aspx](http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Content/Vehicles/2008/M/M5Sedan/default.aspx) 17 hwy is on the front page The rest was from these sites > **[2005 BMW M5 | BMW | SuperCars.net](https://www.supercars.net/blog/2005-bmw-m5/)** > > 2005 BMW M5 It has been 20 years since the launch of the first BMW M5. After three generations, more the 35,000 sales the BMW M5 still makes its position as the benchmark. The all-new fourth generation M5 has the first V10 engine to power a... > **[List of Nürburgring Nordschleife lap times](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordschleife_fastest_lap_times)** > > This is a list of lap times achieved by various vehicles on the Nürburgring (Nordschleife). The list itself is broken down into categories. The Nürburgring (Nordschleife) in Germany, with its remaining 20.8 km (12.9 mi) long old section dating from 1927, is used by various motoring media outlets and vehicle manufacturers for testing. Manufacturers publish times for promotional purposes while automotive media outlets usually publish times for comparison and reporting purposes. According to Car a... The first gen V is nice but the Diff problem is annoying at best I grew up as a BMW fan boi, but I am stuck in a city that will key your foreign car because they have an inferiority complex. I like competition and I also like value. Hell if the V lost by a second I would still be happy. ---
**Author:** ![rage87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9e8a1a/32.png) [@rage87](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rage87)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cts-v2-vs-m5/53663/45 "2008-08-27T21:21:22Z")
wow thanks bigron. fully loaded CTS-V interior pic versus bone-stock-out-the-door-for-as-cheap-as-possible M5. Good work. I’ve been in both cars. An upholstery shop I had my window replaced at had an M5 there. The interior is much more pleasing (simplicity and cleanliness speaks folks) and the amount of sound deadening material that goes into the car is ridiculous. You could hear a pin drop inside of the car at full throttle. And I’ve worked with a couple of douche bags that have CTS. The interior sucks. It looks cheap. nuff said. ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cts-v2-vs-m5/53663/46 "2008-08-28T05:48:51Z")
> [@rage87](#): > > wow thanks bigron. fully loaded CTS-V interior pic versus bone-stock-out-the-door-for-as-cheap-as-possible M5. Good work. > > I’ve been in both cars. An upholstery shop I had my window replaced at had an M5 there. The interior is much more pleasing (simplicity and cleanliness speaks folks) and the amount of sound deadening material that goes into the car is ridiculous. You could hear a pin drop inside of the car at full throttle. > > And I’ve worked with a couple of douche bags that have CTS. The interior sucks. It looks cheap. nuff said. where does it say it is a fully loaded CTS? and I didn’t know you could have a non-boring as shit interior as an option on the m5, thats great thinking. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 5:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cts-v2-vs-m5/53663/47 "2008-08-28T05:56:28Z")
> [@rage87](#): > > wow thanks bigron. fully loaded CTS-V interior pic versus bone-stock-out-the-door-for-as-cheap-as-possible M5. Good work. > > I’ve been in both cars. An upholstery shop I had my window replaced at had an M5 there. The interior is much more pleasing (simplicity and cleanliness speaks folks) and the amount of sound deadening material that goes into the car is ridiculous. You could hear a pin drop inside of the car at full throttle. > > And I’ve worked with a couple of douche bags that have CTS. The interior sucks. It looks cheap. nuff said. lol who in their right mind (as a car enthusiast at least) wants to hear a pin drop under full throttle? I, personally, want to hear that engine screaming under the hood (and/or blower lol) ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cts-v2-vs-m5/53663/48 "2008-08-28T05:57:26Z")
> [@rage87](#): > > wow thanks bigron. fully loaded CTS-V interior pic versus bone-stock-out-the-door-for-as-cheap-as-possible M5. Good work. > > I’ve been in both cars. An upholstery shop I had my window replaced at had an M5 there. The interior is much more pleasing (simplicity and cleanliness speaks folks) and the amount of sound deadening material that goes into the car is ridiculous. You could hear a pin drop inside of the car at full throttle. > > And I’ve worked with a couple of douche bags that have CTS. The interior sucks. It looks cheap. nuff said. Was there any added value to this topic to name call your co-workers or are you trying to imply that all CTS drivers are “douche bags”? I also updated the picture of the interior of the M5. Hopefully it is loaded enough for you. The last CTS-V had one option and it was a sunroof so to me a fully load V is a stock V. As for the new one there are more options. The one in the picture had the CTS-V Performance Collection (RJE) which I would think most V will be ordered with. Options are listed below. - Sueded Steering Wheel and Shift Knob - Audio system with Navigation - Recaro Heated/Ventilated Performance Seats - 19x9" front, 19x9.5" rear Polished Aluminum Wheels ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cts-v2-vs-m5/53663/49 "2008-08-28T06:03:06Z")
> [@Dr.Stevil](#): > > lol who in their right mind (as a car enthusiast at least) wants to hear a pin drop under full throttle? I, personally, want to hear that engine screaming under the hood (and/or blower lol) Don’t see why they waste all that money on sound deadening…I believe the demographic for Caddys is older people who can’t hear that well anyways… ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 6:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cts-v2-vs-m5/53663/50 "2008-08-28T06:04:21Z")
^ lol it’s retarded how much R&D goes into that kind of shit too ---
**Author:** ![rage87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9e8a1a/32.png) [@rage87](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rage87)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cts-v2-vs-m5/53663/51 "2008-08-28T08:41:05Z")
You guys are car enthusiasts. Not all M5 owners are. I see a lot of people who are either older or just stupid rich driving M5s. IMO the M5 isn’t about the car enthusiast. It’s about a 500+hp luxury sedan. ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cts-v2-vs-m5/53663/52 "2008-08-28T12:28:33Z")
> [@rage87](#): > > You guys are car enthusiasts. Not all M5 owners are. I see a lot of people who are either older or just stupid rich driving M5s. IMO the M5 isn’t about the car enthusiast. It’s about a 500+hp luxury sedan. Why would you want 500HP if you weren’t concerned with performance? :deadhorse2: Drive a regular 550 or 760 ---
**Author:** ![rj-92](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rj-92/32/7310_2.png) [@rj-92](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rj-92)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cts-v2-vs-m5/53663/53 "2008-08-28T18:27:41Z")
> [@rage87](#): > > I’ve been in both cars. An upholstery shop I had my window replaced at had an M5 there. The interior is much more pleasing (simplicity and cleanliness speaks folks) It sure does, until you have to use it. I drive is just idiotic. Id rather have to locate one of 24 buttons. > [@rage87](#): > > And I’ve worked with a couple of douche bags that have CTS. The interior sucks. It looks cheap. nuff said. If you are talking a pre '08 I’d agree. The interior in the 08+ are head and shoulders \> the old CTS interior and just as nice in my opinion as the BMWs. ---
**Author:** ![rage87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9e8a1a/32.png) [@rage87](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rage87)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cts-v2-vs-m5/53663/54 "2008-08-28T21:26:31Z")
> [@walter](#): > > Why would you want 500HP if you weren’t concerned with performance? :deadhorse2: Drive a regular 550 or 760 Because when you’re making mid to high six figures you buy whatever puts a smile on your face and makes you feel warm and happy inside, for the moment. And the CTS I was in might have been an 07, I’m not entirely sure. ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2008, 4:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cts-v2-vs-m5/53663/55 "2008-08-29T04:39:45Z")
> [@rage87](#): > > And the CTS I was in might have been an 07, I’m not entirely sure. 2004 - 2007 New 2009 V ![http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/gallery/data/557/medium/ctv12.jpg](http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/gallery/data/557/medium/ctv12.jpg) 2008 CTS I can see where you would get confused. Thanks for everything you have added to this thread. ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2008, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cts-v2-vs-m5/53663/56 "2008-08-29T06:23:21Z")
New pics released by GM [http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f15/gm-releases-new-cts-v-photos-good-ones-68577/#post1495603](http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f15/gm-releases-new-cts-v-photos-good-ones-68577/#post1495603) ---
**Author:** ![rage87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9e8a1a/32.png) [@rage87](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rage87)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2008, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cts-v2-vs-m5/53663/57 "2008-08-29T06:36:00Z")
It was a 2008 for sure. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2008, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cts-v2-vs-m5/53663/58 "2008-08-29T09:36:04Z")
the newer cts interior is a massive improvement, but it’s still just shit all over the place. climate controls on my knee? no thanks. ---
**Author:** ![reliant\_turbo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/reliant_turbo/32/7189_2.png) [@reliant\_turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reliant_turbo)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2008, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cts-v2-vs-m5/53663/59 "2008-08-29T18:35:18Z")
i like the old CTS better. simple. clean. Ive never liked a BMW interior except my buddies E12. Brian [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/cts-v2-vs-m5/53663.md?page=2)