# CTSV vs e46 M3 vs E39 M5 vs B6 V8 S4
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ctsv-vs-e46-m3-vs-e39-m5-vs-b6-v8-s4/234276
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [December 17, 2013, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ctsv-vs-e46-m3-vs-e39-m5-vs-b6-v8-s4/234276 "2013-12-17T07:46:57Z")
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### Author:  [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2013, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ctsv-vs-e46-m3-vs-e39-m5-vs-b6-v8-s4/234276/81 "2013-12-18T15:18:39Z")
> [@BigRon](#):
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> All 4 aren’t bad, I probably wouldn’t go red.
> This color is rather rare and looks good in person.
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> Agreed that the M5 is a great looking car, but comparing a stock V1 to a highly modified M5 picture is kind of one sided. That appears to be lowered, wheels, hood, headlights, lip, and modified lower bumper. I might be missing some other items.
Ron,
What is that color?
I have only seen Black, Stealth Gray which I like except in the Sun where it looks green, Silver, Red in the 04/05s
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### Author:  [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ctsv-vs-e46-m3-vs-e39-m5-vs-b6-v8-s4/234276/82 "2013-12-18T15:33:35Z")
> [@2TurboZ](#):
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> Ron,
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> What is that color?
> I have only seen Black, Stealth Gray which I like except in the Sun where it looks green, Silver, Red in the 04/05s
It is stealth gray.
Here is a good comparison page for the years and has all the colors available by year.
[http://www.cadillacfaq.com/faq/answers/my-chart.html](http://www.cadillacfaq.com/faq/answers/my-chart.html)
Also, worth digging around the rest of the FAQ, some good information in there.
Also, regarding MPG I could get 25 mpg on the hwy all day long after a k&n and exhaust. V2 might get 17.
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### Author:  [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2013, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ctsv-vs-e46-m3-vs-e39-m5-vs-b6-v8-s4/234276/83 "2013-12-18T15:39:14Z")
See I really like the Stealth Gray until it looks like this…
looks really green to me in direct light
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### Author:  [@Shifty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shifty)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ctsv-vs-e46-m3-vs-e39-m5-vs-b6-v8-s4/234276/84 "2013-12-18T18:57:14Z")
> [@2TurboZ](#):
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> [@BigRon](#):
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> Agreed that the M5 is a great looking car, but comparing a stock V1 to a highly modified M5 picture is kind of one sided. That appears to be lowered, wheels, hood, headlights, lip, and modified lower bumper. I might be missing some other items.
Agreed the m5: hood, lip, rims and suspension are not stock…neither is the v1(pic below): rims and suspension. Out of these two which one would you pick:
Or
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### Author:  [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2013, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ctsv-vs-e46-m3-vs-e39-m5-vs-b6-v8-s4/234276/85 "2013-12-18T19:05:34Z")
I have a hard time…They both have alot of appeal and they both have their pros and cons.
I think the Cadillac has a more aggressive front look which I like…
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### Author:  [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2013, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ctsv-vs-e46-m3-vs-e39-m5-vs-b6-v8-s4/234276/86 "2013-12-18T19:08:08Z")
i would honestly between both looks go with the V1. That particular M5 just doesn’t do it for me.
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### Author:  [@GV1390](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GV1390)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2013, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ctsv-vs-e46-m3-vs-e39-m5-vs-b6-v8-s4/234276/87 "2013-12-18T20:26:33Z")
> [@cougarspeed](#):
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> I loved my E39. Never had issues and when I replaced parts I was never bummed on the price.
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/9123403@N07/5230724700/](http://www.flickr.com/photos/9123403@N07/5230724700/)
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### Author:  [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)
#### Post date: [December 19, 2013, 4:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ctsv-vs-e46-m3-vs-e39-m5-vs-b6-v8-s4/234276/88 "2013-12-19T04:33:28Z")
We could all place bets on what car he’s going to get.
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### Author:  [@Shifty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shifty)
#### Post date: [December 19, 2013, 5:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ctsv-vs-e46-m3-vs-e39-m5-vs-b6-v8-s4/234276/89 "2013-12-19T05:10:09Z")
> [@2TurboZ](#):
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> I have a hard time…They both have alot of appeal and they both have their pros and cons.
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> I think the Cadillac has a more aggressive front look which I like…
I agree the v1 has an aggressive front look
> [@NYstanger](#):
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> i would honestly between both looks go with the V1. That particular M5 just doesn’t do it for me.
How between these two (similar color)
Scott’s old car
Or
02NismoSpecV old car
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### Author:  [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)
#### Post date: [December 19, 2013, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ctsv-vs-e46-m3-vs-e39-m5-vs-b6-v8-s4/234276/90 "2013-12-19T06:41:27Z")
what’s the point of having this discusson when you’re going to end up buying an Infiniti just like LZ did 🙂
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### Author:  [@GV1390](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GV1390)
#### Post date: [December 19, 2013, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ctsv-vs-e46-m3-vs-e39-m5-vs-b6-v8-s4/234276/91 "2013-12-19T06:57:32Z")
[http://www.ctsvowners.com/forum/showthread.php/13864-FS-in-NC-2005-CTS-V-15-500](http://www.ctsvowners.com/forum/showthread.php/13864-FS-in-NC-2005-CTS-V-15-500)?
[http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadillac-CTS-CTS-V-2005-cadillac-cts-v-4-dr-sdn-400-hp-/161171229268?forcerrptr=true&hash=item25868dca54&item=161171229268&pt=US\_Cars\_Trucks](http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadillac-CTS-CTS-V-2005-cadillac-cts-v-4-dr-sdn-400-hp-/161171229268?forcerrptr=true&hash=item25868dca54&item=161171229268&pt=US_Cars_Trucks)
[http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadillac-CTS-V-2007-cadillac-cts-v-infrared-tan-6-spd-navigation-bose-ipod-aux-400-hp-xenon-wow-/360811184295?forcerrptr=true&hash=item540205c0a7&item=360811184295&pt=US\_Cars\_Trucks](http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadillac-CTS-V-2007-cadillac-cts-v-infrared-tan-6-spd-navigation-bose-ipod-aux-400-hp-xenon-wow-/360811184295?forcerrptr=true&hash=item540205c0a7&item=360811184295&pt=US_Cars_Trucks)
[http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadillac-CTS-V-2005-cadillac-cts-v-400-hp-6-speed-luxury-rocket-low-miles-great-shape-/321273464324?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4acd640604&item=321273464324&pt=US\_Cars\_Trucks](http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadillac-CTS-V-2005-cadillac-cts-v-400-hp-6-speed-luxury-rocket-low-miles-great-shape-/321273464324?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4acd640604&item=321273464324&pt=US_Cars_Trucks)
[http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadillac-CTS-WE-FINANCE-2005-cadillac-cts-v-5-7-l-v-8-htd-leather-sunroof-nav-35-k-texas-direct-auto-/190998017981?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2c785e77bd&item=190998017981&pt=US\_Cars\_Trucks](http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadillac-CTS-WE-FINANCE-2005-cadillac-cts-v-5-7-l-v-8-htd-leather-sunroof-nav-35-k-texas-direct-auto-/190998017981?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2c785e77bd&item=190998017981&pt=US_Cars_Trucks)
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [December 19, 2013, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ctsv-vs-e46-m3-vs-e39-m5-vs-b6-v8-s4/234276/92 "2013-12-19T07:01:06Z")
> [@bing](#):
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> what’s the point of having this discusson when you’re going to end up buying an Infiniti just like LZ did 🙂
:lol:
In his case the M5/CTS-V are better options in my case AWD/Reliability were larger concerns.
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### Author:  [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)
#### Post date: [December 19, 2013, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ctsv-vs-e46-m3-vs-e39-m5-vs-b6-v8-s4/234276/93 "2013-12-19T09:06:41Z")
For that generation the M5 definitely looks better.
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### Author:  [@Kramer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Kramer)
#### Post date: [December 19, 2013, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ctsv-vs-e46-m3-vs-e39-m5-vs-b6-v8-s4/234276/94 "2013-12-19T09:22:22Z")
That interior is awful on the CTSv but ont he other hand where are you going to get 400hp for less than 17k and its reliable.
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### Author:  [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)
#### Post date: [December 19, 2013, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ctsv-vs-e46-m3-vs-e39-m5-vs-b6-v8-s4/234276/95 "2013-12-19T09:28:30Z")
Jag S type R, they’re more like 10k and surprisingly reliable.
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### Author:  [@jay\_g](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jay_g)
#### Post date: [December 19, 2013, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ctsv-vs-e46-m3-vs-e39-m5-vs-b6-v8-s4/234276/96 "2013-12-19T09:50:05Z")
If I’m meeting with clients the last thing I want to do is show up with a car that is slammed and all modded out. I vote cts-v.
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### Author:  [@Shifty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shifty)
#### Post date: [December 19, 2013, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ctsv-vs-e46-m3-vs-e39-m5-vs-b6-v8-s4/234276/97 "2013-12-19T09:59:14Z")
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If I’m meeting with clients the last thing I want to do is show up with a car that is slammed and all modded out. I vote cts-v.
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He has an FX35 for that.
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### Author:  [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)
#### Post date: [December 19, 2013, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ctsv-vs-e46-m3-vs-e39-m5-vs-b6-v8-s4/234276/98 "2013-12-19T11:06:08Z")
I think the solution is to buy Norbs car. No gaudy interior, lssiqqqqq powahh
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### Author:  [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)
#### Post date: [December 19, 2013, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ctsv-vs-e46-m3-vs-e39-m5-vs-b6-v8-s4/234276/99 "2013-12-19T14:24:07Z")
What about a G8? No manual option unless you go GXP, but that would be out of your price point. Probably not the same badge power, but great vehicle.
Edit: reread your criteria so the auto won’t work
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### Author:  [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)
#### Post date: [December 19, 2013, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ctsv-vs-e46-m3-vs-e39-m5-vs-b6-v8-s4/234276/100 "2013-12-19T14:31:28Z")
Yeah, no autos and the Pontiac badge power is non existent for me.
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I do not believe the Jaguar came with a manual trans…I also used to work on Jags and they were junk IMO and the styling does nothing for me.
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