# culture clash

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/culture-clash/205848>\
**Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [November 10, 2010, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/culture-clash/205848 "2010-11-10T10:38:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/culture-clash/205848/101 "2010-11-19T07:47:41Z")

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> [@dyingwish](#):
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> And that implies what exactly? That some manufacturers have no place in a certain type of series? That ALL drivers of foreign series, regardless of racing pedigree aspire to come to Nascar? That the best circuit drivers and engineers come to Nascar as opposed to F1? What am I ignorant of?

Shame on myself. Did not pick up on your context of the post.

throw in some smilies damn it 🤣

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**Author:** ![SK360](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sk360/32/5933_2.png) [@SK360](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SK360)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/culture-clash/205848/102 "2010-11-19T07:48:38Z")

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> [@whitey](#):
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> two words… Pearl Harbor!
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> lol, here we go!

I can still smell the burning

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**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/culture-clash/205848/103 "2010-11-19T07:50:37Z")

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I smell GTO transmission.

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**Author:** ![dyingwish](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dyingwish/32/6041_2.png) [@dyingwish](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dyingwish)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/culture-clash/205848/104 "2010-11-19T07:53:21Z")

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> [@Shaggy](#):
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> Shame on myself. Did not pick up on your context of the post.

:danny: Didn’t see your edit. And no way would I take it back. Nascar is archaic, aside from safety regs it is a non-evolving series. I’ll agree that it’s moderately impressive in person, as I have been to a few, but frankly you can get shitfaced at any racing event where the speed are high and it’s the exact same thing. I was making the point that european/asian manufacturers have an infinitely deep reservoir of racing engineering…and it’s just like a mouth-breathing cretin to say Toyota has no place in Nascar. Why is that exactly? Is it because they broke into the ol’ boys club and did extremely well using carb technology that they hadn’t raced with since the 70’s? Is it because a subset of americans hold onto Nascar like it’s the last fucking bastion of motorsports, and being themselves ignorant of what kinds of racing led to Nascar? Or is it the multitudes of different racing series across the globe that is somehow unfoundedly inferior to Nascar? What exacly is the argument.

Your point about drivers coming into Nascar, and not dominating, is somewhat vaild…but sketchy data at best. the really good drivers out there are doing shit like WRC, Touring Car, and the paths that lead to Formula. The only reason guys move from that arena to try out Nascar isn’t the challenge…it’s the money, and you’re aren’t dumb enough to not see that. :oj:

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**Author:** ![Swarzkopf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@Swarzkopf](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swarzkopf)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/culture-clash/205848/105 "2010-11-19T07:57:12Z")

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Who cares? None of us are driving NASCARs last time I checked… Even if I do pretend to be Dale Earnhart during my morning commute sometimes. But let’s keep that between us.

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**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/culture-clash/205848/106 "2010-11-19T08:14:41Z")

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attention desk jockeys , Go fuel up your desk and it might make your point clearer.

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**Author:** ![whitey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/whitey/32/5911_2.png) [@whitey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/whitey)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/culture-clash/205848/107 "2010-11-19T08:54:27Z")

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> [@danhr](#):
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> Just because my grandfather flew a plane into your grandfather, you gotta be all up on startin shit…
> 
> You’re just jealous that we get to see life in widescreen 1080p… while your round eye ass has to settle for full screen in 480i.

hahahahahaha… spit water out on this one!

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**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/culture-clash/205848/108 "2010-11-19T09:17:15Z")

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> [@SK360](#):
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> What’s wrong with Toyota and NASCAR?

Do You even know how NASCAR originated?

Its not about out circuit racing and other drivers. NASCAR sold out to be more commercialize, even its own ppl stated this. Toyota got in cause they paid out enough. Total bullshit

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**Author:** ![SK360](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sk360/32/5933_2.png) [@SK360](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SK360)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/culture-clash/205848/109 "2010-11-19T09:43:20Z")

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> [@Quik](#):
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> Do You even know how NASCAR originated?

Bunch of guys bought cars with broken steering racks that would only turn to the left?

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**Author:** ![Jeff95TA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeff95ta/32/5935_2.png) [@Jeff95TA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeff95TA)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/culture-clash/205848/110 "2010-11-19T09:46:34Z")

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> [@Quik](#):
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> Its not about out circuit racing and other drivers. NASCAR sold out to be more commercialize, even its own ppl stated this. Toyota got in cause they paid out enough. Total bullshit

If Toyota gave you a Tundra and said they’d give you $500 a month to drive it, would you tell them no?

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**Author:** ![danhr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@danhr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/danhr)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/culture-clash/205848/111 "2010-11-19T09:48:32Z")

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> [@SK360](#):
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> Bunch of guys bought cars with broken steering racks that would only turn to the left?

LMFAO

Game… Set… and Match, sir.

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**Author:** ![whitey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/whitey/32/5911_2.png) [@whitey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/whitey)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/culture-clash/205848/112 "2010-11-19T09:56:24Z")

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> [@Quik](#):
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> Do You even know how NASCAR originated?
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> Its not about out circuit racing and other drivers. NASCAR sold out to be more commercialize, even its own ppl stated this. Toyota got in cause they paid out enough. Total bullshit

NASCAR started to provide an event to allow bootleggers to drive their souped up cars. It never was created or based around a specific make, model, or origin of a car. It was made for fast cars and fast drivers. Why shouldn’t Toyota be involved in this?

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**Author:** ![danhr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@danhr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/danhr)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/culture-clash/205848/113 "2010-11-19T10:19:08Z")

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> [@whitey](#):
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> It was made for fast cars. Why shouldn’t Toyota be involved in this?

I think you answered your own question there buddy…

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**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/culture-clash/205848/114 "2010-11-19T11:18:11Z")

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> [@whitey](#):
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> NASCAR started to provide an event to allow bootleggers to drive their souped up cars. It never was created or based around a specific make, model, or origin of a car. It was made for fast cars and fast drivers. Why shouldn’t Toyota be involved in this?

It’s all about sponsorship $. The days are gone WIN on sunday SELL on monday long gone

toyota found $ mopar who the fuck knows how they survive. MOPAR IS LIKE KDKA, They just do it. CBS / KDKA has loyal old people

CBS and Pittspeed has a lot in common, has OLD people viewing / posting then sell out to the first bidder

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**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/culture-clash/205848/115 "2010-11-19T14:10:15Z")

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sorry ill pass, tundra is the biggest piece of shit called a truck. 500 isnt enough to drive a jap truck

> [@Jeff95TA](#):
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> If Toyota gave you a Tundra and said they’d give you $500 a month to drive it, would you tell them no?

---------- Post added at 05:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:07 PM ----------

originally created it was solely American made cars. key word AMERICAN. Orignally stock cars, toyota never had a stock car

> [@whitey](#):
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> NASCAR started to provide an event to allow bootleggers to drive their souped up cars. It never was created or based around a specific make, model, or origin of a car. It was made for fast cars and fast drivers. Why shouldn’t Toyota be involved in this?

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**Author:** ![Cheeks](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cheeks/32/5930_2.png) [@Cheeks](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cheeks)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/culture-clash/205848/116 "2010-11-19T14:16:14Z")

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toyota is more of an AMERICAN company right now than gm. Hell toyota’s are MADE in the USA not mexico

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**Author:** ![SupraSean](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/suprasean/32/6062_2.png) [@SupraSean](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SupraSean)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/culture-clash/205848/117 "2010-11-19T15:59:23Z")

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> [@Quik](#):
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> sorry ill pass, tundra is the biggest piece of shit called a truck. 500 isnt enough to drive a jap truck
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> ---------- Post added at 05:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:07 PM ----------
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> originally created it was solely American made cars. key word AMERICAN. Orignally stock cars, toyota never had a stock car

Nascar was originated For competive Makes. to take their showroom models and race them on a track in “Stock” Form, Hence “StockCar”. NASCAR- National association for Stock Car Auto Racing. Nascar was born an american sport, but so is baseball so your saying that japanese people don’t belong in baseball? —Rant @ Douchecanoe…----

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**Author:** ![T34418L31](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e56c9b/32.png) [@T34418L31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T34418L31)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/culture-clash/205848/118 "2010-11-19T16:00:54Z")

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> [@Cheeks](#):
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> toyota is more of an AMERICAN company right now than gm. Hell toyota’s are MADE in the USA not mexico

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**Author:** ![danhr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@danhr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/danhr)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2010, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/culture-clash/205848/119 "2010-11-20T07:02:10Z")

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THEY TOOK OUR JOBS!

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**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/culture-clash/205848/120 "2010-11-20T19:09:06Z")

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> [@Cheeks](#):
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> toyota is more of an AMERICAN company right now than gm. Hell toyota’s are MADE in the USA not mexico

if your implying most GM crap is made in mexico, your sir are wrong EH

for the record toyota is still not USA. ALL PROFITS still go to head quarters in JAPAN  
Yup USA citizens are paid and we thank them. in the end the sushi eating non walmart shopper laughs

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