# Customer Car: Chris McCarty's Evo VIII

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/customer-car-chris-mccartys-evo-viii/67101>\
**Category:** Vendor Marketplace\
**Created:** [May 1, 2009, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/customer-car-chris-mccartys-evo-viii/67101 "2009-05-01T09:55:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![orzech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f04885/32.png) [@orzech](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/orzech)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2009, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/customer-car-chris-mccartys-evo-viii/67101/61 "2009-05-03T18:42:53Z")

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> [@alpha earl](#):
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> its funny that you talked all shit about an ebc when you have absolutely no experience with one…

i have read enough that i dont want to experience one and proven that it is a big waste of money and you can still go very fast with out needing slicks or an EBC. So i think i can talk shit on it all i want when i have the numbers to prove that my $75 hallman works fine for 1/4 of the price of an EBC.

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**Author:** ![orzech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f04885/32.png) [@orzech](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/orzech)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/customer-car-chris-mccartys-evo-viii/67101/62 "2009-05-03T18:47:12Z")

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> [@brent\_strong](#):
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> And I’d be willing to bet that both of them have gone faster and quicker than you have. Or probably ever will.

hahah well put

> [@alpha earl](#):
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> ya i guess 500whp on pump gas in a 2,500 lb car wont run better than a 13 second 1/4

pic of timeslip:  
[http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride\_images/2/4578/4401/23944700136\_large.jpg](http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4578/4401/23944700136_large.jpg)  
Since you are all about “street” cars, I wait to see the day you can match that with street tires, 93 octane, and no water or meth injection…  
or (this one you might have a chance at) how about trapping 130 with the same situations^^^ and you will probably have 750 lbs weight difference on me.

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**Author:** ![Carbonfiberhooded](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carbonfiberhooded/32/7608_2.png) [@Carbonfiberhooded](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carbonfiberhooded)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2009, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/customer-car-chris-mccartys-evo-viii/67101/63 "2009-05-03T19:44:43Z")

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Personally I think Alpha should keep going. I think he’s getting on Orzech’s nerves! Hopefully enough to get him back in the game!!! Sell the Audi already!!

Orzech versus Alpha Earl roll and drag.

My money’s on Chris.

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**Author:** ![orzech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f04885/32.png) [@orzech](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/orzech)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2009, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/customer-car-chris-mccartys-evo-viii/67101/64 "2009-05-03T19:57:47Z")

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> [@Carbonfiberhooded](#):
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> Personally I think Alpha should keep going. I think he’s getting on Orzech’s nerves! Hopefully enough to get him back in the game!!! Sell the Audi already!!
> 
> Orzech versus Alpha Earl roll and drag.
> 
> My money’s on Chris.

haha see rocdsm WTB ad 🙂

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**Author:** ![Carbonfiberhooded](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/carbonfiberhooded/32/7608_2.png) [@Carbonfiberhooded](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carbonfiberhooded)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2009, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/customer-car-chris-mccartys-evo-viii/67101/65 "2009-05-03T20:16:04Z")

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> [@orzech](#):
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> haha see rocdsm WTB ad 🙂

Fantastic!!

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**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2009, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/customer-car-chris-mccartys-evo-viii/67101/66 "2009-05-03T20:16:25Z")

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> Because experience trumps all. If all the fast guys are saying some fancy part is junk and to use a cheap one…well, there’s probably a reason. Hell, if a shop owner is trying to _NOT_ sell a $300 electronics part that probably has a killer markup on it, there’s probably a reason…
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> And I’m sure Orzech has gone much faster than a 13. He’s listed at 11.3 on roclife…

well i guess tony from t1racing would be a good example, he runs 8.8 in a fwd sfwd trim integra using boost by gear by rpm… is that fast enough??? and the solenoid is actually cheaper than the mbc he sells out of his shop…

the point i was getting at is that if the technology is there and you are exceeding your traction limits why not use that technology to better your times/car??

> [@orzech](#):
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> hahah well put
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> pic of timeslip:  
> [http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride\_images/2/4578/4401/23944700136\_large.jpg](http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4578/4401/23944700136_large.jpg)  
> Since you are all about “street” cars, I wait to see the day you can match that with street tires, 93 octane, and no water or meth injection…  
> or (this one you might have a chance at) how about trapping 130 with the same situations^^^ and you will probably have 750 lbs weight difference on me.

i seriously doubt i will run low 11’s on street tires lol, and i should be very close to 130mph traps on 93 octane, im not the type to say my car will do this or that without actually doing it

and i never said i am all about street cars either, i was just asking a question followed by a suggestion, in which the response was that they are junk or will never be used

to me if you drive a car on the street you want the least amount of spin to achieve maximum traction and all the while putting down as much power as you can, with a manual single stage boost controller i just don’t see that as possible, which is why i asked if evo/dsm had problems because emery stated it had a lack of traction ( and the owner told me personally it did)

guess i will start another thread

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**Author:** ![Emery](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Emery](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Emery)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2009, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/customer-car-chris-mccartys-evo-viii/67101/67 "2009-05-03T21:06:39Z")

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> [@alpha earl](#):
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> well i guess tony from t1racing would be a good example, he runs 8.8 in a fwd sfwd trim integra using boost by gear by rpm… is that fast enough??? and the solenoid is actually cheaper than the mbc he sells out of his shop…
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> the point i was getting at is that if the technology is there and you are exceeding your traction limits why not use that technology to better your times/car??
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> i seriously doubt i will run low 11’s on street tires lol, and i should be very close to 130mph traps on 93 octane, im not the type to say my car will do this or that without actually doing it
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> and i never said i am all about street cars either, i was just asking a question followed by a suggestion, in which the response was that they are junk or will never be used
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> to me if you drive a car on the street you want the least amount of spin to achieve maximum traction and all the while putting down as much power as you can, with a manual single stage boost controller i just don’t see that as possible, which is why i asked if evo/dsm had problems because emery stated it had a lack of traction ( and the owner told me personally it did)
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> guess i will start another thread

Solving the lack of traction with a better tire will make the car faster than solving it with less boost.

My lack of traction (1.7 60 ft) and yours (2.5 60 ft.) are completely different

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**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2009, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/customer-car-chris-mccartys-evo-viii/67101/68 "2009-05-03T21:08:41Z")

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> [@EmeryatSTM](#):
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> Solving the lack of traction with a better tire will make the car faster than solving it with less boost.
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> My lack of traction (1.7 60 ft) and yours (2.5 60 ft.) are completely different

i completely agree a bigger/stickier tire will help alot, but that can only overcome soo much (and i cut 2.0’s thanks)

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**Author:** ![BH46](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@BH46](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BH46)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/customer-car-chris-mccartys-evo-viii/67101/69 "2009-05-03T21:09:44Z")

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damn, thats mad clean

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**Author:** ![mickdad246](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mickdad246/32/7274_2.png) [@mickdad246](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mickdad246)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2009, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/customer-car-chris-mccartys-evo-viii/67101/70 "2009-05-03T21:14:40Z")

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:eek: sexy lookin mani

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**Author:** ![Deathproof](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@Deathproof](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Deathproof)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/customer-car-chris-mccartys-evo-viii/67101/71 "2009-05-06T18:17:21Z")

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That’s a very nicely built evo.

I personally would go with a supercharger to control boost…oh, on a cobra that is.

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**Author:** ![The\_Russian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the_russian/32/7414_2.png) [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/customer-car-chris-mccartys-evo-viii/67101/72 "2009-05-06T22:20:27Z")

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Its an Amazing Machine, Too Bad Nobody owns it, someone put in the wrench time.

Looks awesome Emery.

Props from the slow and ugly.

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**Author:** ![dpm90iroc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dpm90iroc/32/4966_2.png) [@dpm90iroc](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dpm90iroc)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/customer-car-chris-mccartys-evo-viii/67101/73 "2009-05-07T05:32:08Z")

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> [@EmeryatSTM](#):
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> If you want to fix wheel spin with less power, Why bother building it.
> 
> I know in our car if we had less power for the first 330 feet we would not have a chance at being as fast as it is. Drag racing has alot more to do with the first half of the track than the last.
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> -Em

Freiken Brilliant-60 ft is everything. & the funnest part of the pass:)

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**Author:** ![neonglh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neonglh/32/4951_2.png) [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/customer-car-chris-mccartys-evo-viii/67101/74 "2009-05-07T19:49:27Z")

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> [@alpha earl](#):
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> ya i guess 500whp on pump gas in a 2,500 lb car wont run better than a 13 second 1/4

Your car makes 500 whp?

I’ve never seen anyone have any luck with an ebc. I know a bunch of megasquirt people were trying to do different setups, using the abs for traction control based boost, and some had time and gear based boost setups, and then I have other people trying to use the AVC-R, and not a single one has had much luck at all.

Even my SRT had trouble with the stock controlled ebc. The setup I had ran me 11 psi down low, and 26 up top, but it would change from day to day, week to week. I like to have full boost whenever I want it. If it’s too much for my tire, feather the gas. If someone goes WOT and spins, and stays in it, they are doing somethign wrong.

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**Author:** ![Studderin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/studderin/32/7197_2.png) [@Studderin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Studderin)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/customer-car-chris-mccartys-evo-viii/67101/75 "2009-05-07T20:25:46Z")

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Emery how much for a EBC for my camaro?

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**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/customer-car-chris-mccartys-evo-viii/67101/76 "2009-05-08T14:55:59Z")

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> [@neonglh](#):
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> Your car makes 500 whp?
> 
> I’ve never seen anyone have any luck with an ebc. I know a bunch of megasquirt people were trying to do different setups, using the abs for traction control based boost, and some had time and gear based boost setups, and then I have other people trying to use the AVC-R, and not a single one has had much luck at all.
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> Even my SRT had trouble with the stock controlled ebc. The setup I had ran me 11 psi down low, and 26 up top, but it would change from day to day, week to week. I like to have full boost whenever I want it. If it’s too much for my tire, feather the gas. If someone goes WOT and spins, and stays in it, they are doing somethign wrong.

none of those systems are pwm based using gear/rpm

and last dyno i had 438 @15psi, upgraded some parts and 500whp shouldn’t be a problem around 18-20psi

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**Author:** ![Emery](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Emery](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Emery)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/customer-car-chris-mccartys-evo-viii/67101/77 "2009-05-08T23:37:09Z")

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> [@alpha earl](#):
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> none of those systems are pwm based using gear/rpm
> 
> and last dyno i had 438 @15psi, upgraded some parts and 500whp shouldn’t be a problem around 18-20psi

What does your car run?

-Em

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**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/customer-car-chris-mccartys-evo-viii/67101/78 "2009-05-10T15:44:28Z")

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havent had a chance to run it at the track yet, although i put out similar numbers as the black del sol and he starts walking chris’s evo in 4th gear when they are both on pump gas

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**Author:** ![EVOLUTION\_VIII\_MR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/evolution_viii_mr/32/5187_2.png) [@EVOLUTION\_VIII\_MR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EVOLUTION_VIII_MR)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/customer-car-chris-mccartys-evo-viii/67101/79 "2009-05-10T16:29:43Z")

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saw this car at carlisle over the weekend  
very nice :tup:

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**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/customer-car-chris-mccartys-evo-viii/67101/80 "2009-05-10T16:33:31Z")

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ya, i wish he would have entered it into the show!!

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