# d-series swap problem

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/d-series-swap-problem/6906>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [January 16, 2006, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/d-series-swap-problem/6906 "2006-01-16T14:23:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![woz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/woz/32/7605_2.png) [@woz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/woz)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/d-series-swap-problem/6906/1 "2006-01-16T14:23:51Z")

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ok 91crxsi’s heaggasket shit the bed in his beater, he got a spare d15 which we had to swap everything over onto, including the dizzy. we got it all together and go to fire it up and it wont fire up, turns over fine, but just doesnt seem like it even wants to start. we thought we had the plug wires setup wrong, which we did, but even when we fixed that still nothing. motor is getting fuel and wen we set plug #1 on the cover got spark from it. im not rly a honda guy, but i thought maybe the dizzy was 180degrees off, we pulled it off and it wouldent even fit in when turned 180, so we figured it had to be in right. any suggestions? all wiring is hooked up, it seems liek an ignition problem to me, like its not sparking at the right point but idk just looking to try and get this thing running again

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**Author:** ![MidgeX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@MidgeX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MidgeX)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/d-series-swap-problem/6906/2 "2006-01-16T16:06:04Z")

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try transfering the icm’s in the dizzy’s  
seriously

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**Author:** ![91CRXSI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91crxsi/32/7247_2.png) [@91CRXSI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91CRXSI)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/d-series-swap-problem/6906/3 "2006-01-16T17:13:22Z")

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its the same dizzy that came off the old engine… spark plugs, wires, and dizzy all came from the old engine

both engins are d15’s from DX civics…

the starter turns the engine over but it doenst even sound like its attempting to fire up even tho we saw spark when we pulled a wire out and had it on the valve cover.

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**Author:** ![MidgeX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@MidgeX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MidgeX)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/d-series-swap-problem/6906/4 "2006-01-16T17:15:07Z")

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try all the wires? maybe one or two are not firing  
GL

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**Author:** ![Freek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freek/32/7357_2.png) [@Freek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Freek)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/d-series-swap-problem/6906/5 "2006-01-16T18:56:48Z")

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ok in problem solving an engine check fuel and spark first … is it getting fuel is it getting spark (on all 4 cylinders)

firing order is 1-3-4-2 the plug wires follow that order on the dizzy … one is usually the top right hand corner as i remember

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**Author:** ![HYPEville](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hypeville/32/7226_2.png) [@HYPEville](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HYPEville)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/d-series-swap-problem/6906/6 "2006-01-16T19:28:32Z")

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last time my civic didn’t start if you remember, i had spark, and it would crank but not catch. same as what it seems is happeneing to you. changed the ignitor, same thing. changed the coil and it started right up. maybe out of nowhere your coil just took a shit, probably not but ya never know.

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**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/d-series-swap-problem/6906/7 "2006-01-16T20:07:24Z")

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did you guys put the timing belt on right

Call me tomarrow in the AM Ill come take a look at it,

if you have spark and fuel, then its timing.

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**Author:** ![woz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/woz/32/7605_2.png) [@woz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/woz)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/d-series-swap-problem/6906/8 "2006-01-16T20:10:44Z")

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engine at tdc, cam level with head witht he “up” end up

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**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/d-series-swap-problem/6906/9 "2006-01-16T22:07:31Z")

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^ fine dont call me, whatever

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**Author:** ![91CRXSI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91crxsi/32/7247_2.png) [@91CRXSI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91CRXSI)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 11:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/d-series-swap-problem/6906/10 "2006-01-16T23:41:55Z")

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> [@93dx--hatch](#):
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> ^ fine dont call me, whatever

dont worry i’ll give you and john d a call tomorrow… cuz i NEED my car back

but there was fuel to each cylinder b/c we pulled all the plugs out and they were wet from fuel being shot in there and nothing igniting it

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**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/d-series-swap-problem/6906/11 "2006-01-17T05:37:30Z")

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> [@originalsin](#):
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> engine at tdc, cam level with head witht he “up” end up

uh, there are different marks on the cam gear for different d series. they are NOT all level with the head. you may want to double check the helms.

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**Author:** ![woz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/woz/32/7605_2.png) [@woz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/woz)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/d-series-swap-problem/6906/12 "2006-01-17T08:23:17Z")

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> [@Zer0DazE](#):
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> uh, there are different marks on the cam gear for different d series. they are NOT all level with the head. you may want to double check the helms.

i was just going by wat matt (91crxsi) said. the cam gear had the two lines going across on either side and the word “up” on one end, its a d15 out of a 92-95 dx i belive?

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**Author:** ![91CRXSI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91crxsi/32/7247_2.png) [@91CRXSI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91CRXSI)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/d-series-swap-problem/6906/13 "2006-01-17T11:22:38Z")

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ok for the timing i lined the single timing notch ( 0 degrees ) on the crank pully up with the little arrow on the timing cover.

then for the cam it clearly says UP and then there were the two lines on the cam gear that were parallell to the head

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**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/d-series-swap-problem/6906/14 "2006-01-17T11:27:05Z")

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you didnt mix up the map and tps connectors did you (they are the same)

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**Author:** ![turbociv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@turbociv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbociv)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/d-series-swap-problem/6906/15 "2006-01-17T11:46:46Z")

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ughh, im gunna go look at it now.

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**Author:** ![woz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/woz/32/7605_2.png) [@woz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/woz)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/d-series-swap-problem/6906/16 "2006-01-17T11:48:42Z")

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> [@Zer0DazE](#):
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> you didnt mix up the map and tps connectors did you (they are the same)

would that cause it to not even start tho?

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**Author:** ![Zer0DazE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zer0daze/32/7624_2.png) [@Zer0DazE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zer0DazE)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/d-series-swap-problem/6906/17 "2006-01-17T12:15:35Z")

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sometimes
