# Dad's New Toy **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [April 1, 2008, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dads-new-toy/46025 "2008-04-01T12:52:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_ls1_ss/32/7303_2.png) [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dads-new-toy/46025/41 "2008-04-01T19:55:06Z")
i think it is just the short block that was replaced. and i know it has a bigger cam in it. i guess it rumbles pretty good. ---
**Author:** ![Devioustsi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/devioustsi/32/7406_2.png) [@Devioustsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Devioustsi)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dads-new-toy/46025/42 "2008-04-01T20:38:36Z")
Bill get a dna test… no turbo/turbo’s = no bloodline… ---
**Author:** ![Firehawk853](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/firehawk853/32/7607_2.png) [@Firehawk853](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Firehawk853)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dads-new-toy/46025/43 "2008-04-01T21:41:51Z")
> [@badazzss](#): > > nice car… i’ve always loved the old school montes… I have always liked paying what I owe people also… NICE CAR ---
**Author:** ![jballz86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/53a042/32.png) [@jballz86](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jballz86)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2008, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dads-new-toy/46025/44 "2008-04-01T22:43:16Z")
> [@Firehawk853](#): > > I have always liked paying what I owe people also… NICE CAR booyashaka ---
**Author:** ![Rsnake91](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rsnake91/32/4996_2.png) [@Rsnake91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Rsnake91)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 4:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dads-new-toy/46025/45 "2008-04-02T04:45:29Z")
thats one fuckin hawt car i must say. nice pick up :tup: x3 ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 4:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dads-new-toy/46025/46 "2008-04-02T04:57:42Z")
> [@turbo ls1 ss](#): > > yes… on the lower front of the wheel front fender, opposite the ss454 badge > > does anybody know how to verify this car? we tried running a carfax, but since the vin has less digits, it wont take it. > > all my dad wants to know is that it is a true 454 car? anything? > > thanks Bill: ![http://www.firstgenmc.com/tech/VINfor7071.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/7/2/7240f685ff2b56f796efcd363cf6b6c8e86ea308.jpeg) > 1st Digit Division 1 Chevrolet > 2nd and 3rd Digits Series 38 Monte Carlo > 4th and 5 Digits Body Style 57 2-dr hardtop coupe > 6th Digit Model Year 0 1970 > 7th Digit Assembly Plant > A Atlanta/Lakewood, GA > B Baltimore, MD > F Flint, MI > G Framingham, MA > K Kansas City, Mo > L Los Angeles/Van Nuys, CA > R Arlington, TX > Z Fremont, CA > 1 Oshawa, ON Canada > Last 6 Digits Production sequence Starting at 100001 (except 200001 at Arlington, TX) and 500001 for Canadian production in 1971 From here: > **[The First Generation Monte Carlo Club](https://www.firstgenmc.com/tech/vindecoding.shtml)** > > 1970 1971 1972 70 71 72 general motors chevrolet chevy muscle car first generation monte carlo club fgmcc Looks like you’ll have to find the date codes stamped on the block, or look for a buck tag on the body. ---
**Author:** ![turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_ls1_ss/32/7303_2.png) [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dads-new-toy/46025/47 "2008-04-02T06:10:21Z")
> [@TrueBlue](#): > > snip lol thanks man, i already know that though. haha. im just going to tell the dad to ask the guy if it has the z20 code stamped on it ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dads-new-toy/46025/48 "2008-04-02T06:23:15Z")
Yeah, I saw the other thread, haha. This is kind of interesting though: > 1970 Intake Manifold Casting Numbers > 3965577 Cast Iron 300 & 350 Horsepower 350 Engines > 3972110 Aluminum 370 Horsepower LT1 350 Engine > 3955287 Aluminum 390 Horsepower 454 Engine > 3969802 Aluminum 390 Horsepower 454 Engine > > 1971 Intake Manifold Casting Numbers > > 3973469 Cast Iron 270 Horsepower 350 Engine > 3959594 Aluminum 330 Horsepower LT1 350 Engine > 3955287 Cast Iron 365 Horsepower LS5 454 Engine > 3967474 Aluminum 425 Horsepower LS6 454 Engine > 3963569 Aluminum 425 Horsepower LS6 454 Engine > > 1972 Intake Manifold Casting Numbers > > 6263751 Cast Iron 200 Horsepower 350 Engine > 3959594 Aluminum 255 Horsepower LT1 350 Engine > 6263753 Cast Iron 270 Horsepower LS5 454 Engine > > 1973 Intake Manifold Casting Numbers > > 3997770 Cast Iron 190 Horsepower 350 L48 Base Engine > 3997771 Cast Iron 190 Horsepower 350 L48 Base Engine > 3997771 Cast Iron 250 Horsepower 350 L82 Engine > 353015 Cast Iron 275 Horsepower 454 LS4 Engine > > 1974 Intake Manifold Casting Numbers > > 340261 Cast Iron 350 Cubic-Inch L48 & L82 Engines > 353015 Cast Iron 270 Horsepower 454 LS4 Engine > 336789 Cast Iron 270 Horsepower 454 454 Engine ---
**Author:** ![Oroc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c68b51/32.png) [@Oroc](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Oroc)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dads-new-toy/46025/49 "2008-04-02T09:18:16Z")
nice bill’s dad :tup: Leave it stock and enjoy it!! ---
**Author:** ![MaximaSE98](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maximase98/32/7600_2.png) [@MaximaSE98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MaximaSE98)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dads-new-toy/46025/50 "2008-04-02T09:24:29Z")
> [@turbo ls1 ss](#): > > yes… on the lower front of the wheel front fender, opposite the ss454 badge > > does anybody know how to verify this car? we tried running a carfax, but since the vin has less digits, it wont take it. > > all my dad wants to know is that it is a true 454 car? anything? > > thanks someone tole me once if u take out the front seats…on the bottom pan there is a spec list…i dunno how true it is ---
**Author:** ![9c1ny](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/9c1ny/32/5050_2.png) [@9c1ny](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/9c1ny)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dads-new-toy/46025/51 "2008-04-02T09:38:50Z")
> [@MaximaSE98](#): > > someone tole me once if u take out the front seats…on the bottom pan there is a spec list…i dunno how true it is sometimes theres build sheets in the car Usually if it has one its up on the springs on the underside of the front seats but they can be anywhere in the car…if one was left in it that is ---
**Author:** ![TrueBlue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/trueblue/32/7245_2.png) [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dads-new-toy/46025/52 "2008-04-02T09:41:32Z")
Word, I was lucky enough to find mine. Chances are good that it’s A.) gone B.) rotted away or C.) really well hidden. ---
**Author:** ![Boomin99GT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boomin99gt/32/7306_2.png) [@Boomin99GT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boomin99GT)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dads-new-toy/46025/53 "2008-04-02T09:52:46Z")
Awesome car, keep us posted if he does anything to it. ---
**Author:** ![ieatpaint](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ieatpaint/32/7311_2.png) [@ieatpaint](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ieatpaint)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dads-new-toy/46025/54 "2008-04-02T10:30:52Z")
cool car. i heard top of the gas tank for spec sheets too. ---
**Author:** ![camarojoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c67d28/32.png) [@camarojoe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/camarojoe)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dads-new-toy/46025/55 "2008-04-02T10:33:51Z")
> [@ieatpaint315](#): > > cool car. i heard top of the gas tank for spec sheets too. :word: ---
**Author:** ![joelster](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joelster/32/7258_2.png) [@joelster](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/joelster)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dads-new-toy/46025/56 "2008-04-02T10:37:06Z")
Bill, on my 2 2nd gen Z28’s the build sheet was tucked into the upright portion of the backseats, in the springs. You could see one of them just by popping the trunk. The other one took 2 bolts to undo the seat portion, and then it flipped up revealing the sheet. The sheets are taped somewhere on the car (windshield) as the car goes down the line, and each station puts the necessary parts onto the car as it travels. The sheet will tell you every little detail about it. Go onto a Monte site, and see if there is a particular spot where the stuffed them after the car was done going down the line. ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dads-new-toy/46025/57 "2008-04-02T11:04:35Z")
Nice…if the motor isn’t number matching then it doesn’t matter if you mod it period. I love the old school muscle. ---
**Author:** ![turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_ls1_ss/32/7303_2.png) [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dads-new-toy/46025/58 "2008-04-02T11:09:02Z")
thanks for the tips and compliments guys. i said this to my dad this morning… as much as it’s nice to say “my car _is_ a true (whatever) car”… in this instance, even the real MC SS’s aren’t really worth anything substantial so who gives a shit. This is a driver. and he agreed. We will check on those things though. The current owner didn’t have the build sheet but we will do a little research. I believe it is a true 454 ss, but i guess we shall see ---
**Author:** ![BuickGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/buickgn/32/7200_2.png) [@BuickGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BuickGN)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dads-new-toy/46025/59 "2008-04-02T14:58:08Z")
does it have the plate bill? ---
**Author:** ![FASTMOFO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9de053/32.png) [@FASTMOFO](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/FASTMOFO)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2008, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dads-new-toy/46025/60 "2008-04-02T15:07:31Z")
that car would be awesome to go cruisin in, looks real nice :tup: [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dads-new-toy/46025.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dads-new-toy/46025.md?page=4)