# Dale Jr SS

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dale-jr-ss/165666>\
**Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [April 13, 2004, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dale-jr-ss/165666 "2004-04-13T12:03:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2004, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dale-jr-ss/165666/81 "2004-04-13T17:39:21Z")

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> _Originally posted by Blue_   
> **and all i said was that the new monte ss was, was just a 2 door gtp.**   
> i think the GTP is actually lighter then the monte

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**Author:** ![Blue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3bc359/32.png) [@Blue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2004, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dale-jr-ss/165666/82 "2004-04-13T17:40:00Z")

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> _Originally posted by Quik_   
> **i think the GTP is actually lighter then the monte**

who knows… but its the same car. same platform.

both are w-bodies

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**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2004, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dale-jr-ss/165666/83 "2004-04-13T17:40:28Z")

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> _Originally posted by Blue_   
> **for the price of a GTP you received A LOT of performance, and A LOT of luxury. its a great comprimise for what it is.**
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> **No other car in its category can really outdo it.  
> On all platforms**   
> Mustang \> GTP for the same price. adn you forgot about the car that first started the S/C 3800 the regal GS

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**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2004, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dale-jr-ss/165666/84 "2004-04-13T17:41:06Z")

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> _Originally posted by Blue_   
> **who knows… but its the same car. same platform.**
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> **both are w-bodies**   
> so were talking about two pieces of junk for outragious prices

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**Author:** ![slowcamaro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slowcamaro/32/5975_2.png) [@slowcamaro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slowcamaro)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2004, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dale-jr-ss/165666/85 "2004-04-13T17:41:49Z")

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:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

who said you had to buy one

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**Author:** ![Blue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3bc359/32.png) [@Blue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2004, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dale-jr-ss/165666/86 "2004-04-13T17:43:12Z")

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> _Originally posted by Quik_   
> **Mustang \> GTP for the same price. adn you forgot about the car that first started the S/C 3800 the regal GS**

wrong… the Riviera had it… then they nixed it, and gave it to the Regal

and I’m sorry, but the Mustang does not have the same comforts as the GTP, as well as the standard options, luxuries etc etc.

Mustang is a pony car.

GTP is a luxury sports sedan/coupe  
its more competition for the Nissan Maxima, Cadillac CTS, Audi A4. etc etc

Where it may not win in all categories, it outshuns a lot of the competition.

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**Author:** ![Silver\_WS6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@Silver\_WS6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Silver_WS6)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2004, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dale-jr-ss/165666/87 "2004-04-13T17:44:19Z")

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the gtp has the 3800 series III s/c motor and the monte as well as the impala SS have the series II s/c motor at least that’s how it was in 03

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**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2004, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dale-jr-ss/165666/88 "2004-04-13T17:45:25Z")

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> _Originally posted by Silver\_WS6_   
> **the gtp has the 3800 series III s/c motor and the monte as well as the impala SS have the series II s/c motor at least that’s how it was in 03**   
> actually i think the regal was first and the RIV was then made with it

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**Author:** ![Blue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3bc359/32.png) [@Blue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2004, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dale-jr-ss/165666/89 "2004-04-13T17:46:09Z")

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> _Originally posted by Silver\_WS6_   
> **the gtp has the 3800 series III s/c motor and the monte as well as the impala SS have the series II s/c motor at least that’s how it was in 03**

20hp diff

04 GTP 260hp  
04 SS 240hp

Drivetrain is still the same.

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**Author:** ![slowcamaro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slowcamaro/32/5975_2.png) [@slowcamaro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slowcamaro)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2004, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dale-jr-ss/165666/90 "2004-04-13T17:47:37Z")

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blue if i am not mistaken i think the old riv had a lt1 for a while

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**Author:** ![Silver\_WS6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@Silver\_WS6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Silver_WS6)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2004, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dale-jr-ss/165666/91 "2004-04-13T17:48:15Z")

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:gives: :blah: :stupid: :lockd:

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**Author:** ![Blue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3bc359/32.png) [@Blue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2004, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dale-jr-ss/165666/92 "2004-04-13T17:48:23Z")

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> _Originally posted by slowcamaro_   
> **blue if i am not mistaken i think the old riv had a lt1 for a while**

I know nothing about the Rivs, except their last body style, had the 3800 SC motor.

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**Author:** ![GNocide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gnocide/32/5947_2.png) [@GNocide](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GNocide)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2004, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dale-jr-ss/165666/93 "2004-04-13T17:55:01Z")

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gtps are faster than mustang gt’s stock and they are more lux than race car but are they that much more money.

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**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2004, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dale-jr-ss/165666/94 "2004-04-13T17:56:18Z")

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> _Originally posted by Blue_   
> **I know nothing about the Rivs, except their last body style, had the 3800 SC motor.**   
> nope, the riv never had a lt1 in it always powered by the buick motor. just like the rest of them

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**Author:** ![Blue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3bc359/32.png) [@Blue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2004, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dale-jr-ss/165666/95 "2004-04-13T17:56:24Z")

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> _Originally posted by Gnocide_   
> **gtps are faster than mustang gt’s stock and they are more lux than race car but are they that much more money.**

unfortunately youre a tad off

a good driver can put a 99 Mustang GT into the high 13’s.

theyre close, but theyre not going to beat a GT stock for stock, equal driving

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**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2004, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dale-jr-ss/165666/96 "2004-04-13T17:57:22Z")

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> _Originally posted by Gnocide_   
> **gtps are faster than mustang gt’s stock and they are more lux than race car but are they that much more money.**

:bsflag: the new GT will smoke the shit out of a GTP or equilant

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**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2004, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dale-jr-ss/165666/97 "2004-04-13T17:58:24Z")

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> _Originally posted by Blue_   
> **unfortunately youre a tad off**
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> **theyre close, but theyre not going to beat a GT stock for stock, equal driving**

i agree,

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**Author:** ![GNocide](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gnocide/32/5947_2.png) [@GNocide](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GNocide)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2004, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dale-jr-ss/165666/98 "2004-04-13T18:01:55Z")

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97greengtp is 13.6 with 1 size pulley smaller and an air intake.hes beat a few im aware of.sleepergtp is 13.9 and heath is 13.8 all same mods.for a front drive v6 heavy car that kicks ass-why should the v8 pony car need mods/ nos to beat the fwd v6 unless it cant produce hp???

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**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2004, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dale-jr-ss/165666/99 "2004-04-13T18:03:20Z")

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> _Originally posted by Gnocide_   
> **97greengtp is 13.6 with 1 size pulley smaller and an air intake.hes beat a few im aware of.sleepergtp is 13.9 and heath is 13.8 all same mods.for a front drive v6 heavy car that kicks ass-why should the v8 pony car need mods/ nos to beat the fwd v6 unless it cant produce hp???**   
> this is the same as the Z06 vs cobra argument.

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**Author:** ![slowcamaro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slowcamaro/32/5975_2.png) [@slowcamaro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slowcamaro)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2004, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dale-jr-ss/165666/100 "2004-04-13T18:03:30Z")

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> _Originally posted by Quik_   
> **nope, the riv never had a lt1 in it always powered by the buick motor. just like the rest of them**

it was the roadmaster

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