# Damm Nasa!!! They gonna get us killed!!!

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**Created:** [December 12, 2007, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damm-nasa-they-gonna-get-us-killed/134950 "2007-12-12T13:12:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![ismo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/278dde/32.png) [@ismo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ismo)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damm-nasa-they-gonna-get-us-killed/134950/41 "2007-12-13T19:15:15Z")

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> [@Hurricane Rita](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hurricane-rita/2562/82):
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> I do have the balls to digest information such as this…i just choose not to.
> 
> dont get me wrong, it is interesting to read about but i live to much of a happy-go-lucky life style to care.
> 
> if in 10 years saturn actually blows up and were all dying, the first thing that will come to my mind will be “shiit…he was right!”. ill even shake your hand.
> 
> My post was not ment to be offending, i just prefer to take everything with a grain of salt, and focus on things one day at a time.

ThatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s a good attitude dude, and I applaud you for that, oh my bad, about the balls and digest thing I realised I forgot to put a Ã¢â‚¬Å“lolÃ¢â‚¬Â after it, it was kind of like a joke, oh well im glad you didn’t take it seriously, that shows you really have a cool personality. hehe

oh and you may not have to wait 10 years more like 7 to 8 months. hehe  
Though, I do wish like everyone else, that it doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t happen because damm, im lazy as fuk, lol I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t want to run around.

on a short note, this is just me trying to warn others to keep an idea that if something does go down; they know what is going on. like you said DFresh, when it happens you’ll know what it is and what to do because you will remember about it. And anyways im just the middle guy passing on the message, I wasnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t the one who found this or anything like that. IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m just trying to spread the word and looking for other info on this.

But after all the crazy stuff going on in the world, my cousin and I are just preparing our selves one way. lol working out at home (gym), and trying to stay as fit as we can. lol thatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s it. And hoping nothing happens while at work, I love my boring job, I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t want excitement. lol

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**Author:** ![Cal-SoY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/91b2a8/32.png) [@Cal-SoY](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cal-SoY)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damm-nasa-they-gonna-get-us-killed/134950/42 "2007-12-13T20:04:05Z")

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> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2612/16):
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> Dude, you still don’t get it do you, you asked for proof, I can’t mention my sources or their names, so I find something from online to give you and you still doubt it happening. I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t know if your read the whole article, but they are already close to Saturn, so they sent this thing 10 years ago, that would make it 1997, and it takes them about another 5 years to plan for it and maybe another 5 to prepare (estimate) might have taken longer, so basically this whole thing was probably though off somewhere in the 80’s.

First of all, your source came from a site, that completely bases itself on conspiracy theories. I read pretty much the whole article and if you hadnt noticed, the article itself didnt refer to any offical sources either.

> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2612/16):
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> There is one more thing people have to get out of their heads, and that is no one is ever going to give you the whole truth, every truth has a little lie and a conspiracy behind it, thatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s how they keep people confused, I am very surprised Cal-soy that even with formula’s or a whole 5 page or more of how this is being done in your physics lingo you still doubt this, when this project is in its final stages already.

Those formulae mean absolutely nothing other than outlining what could be possible. Alot of their diagrams and calculations are also vague. There are no values attatched to the diagrams.

> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2612/16):
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> You say oh yea I could see the reason because they are trying to help humans and look for a potential place for us on titan, dude, wake up, this is the "lie part of the truth, the truth is that they are doing it, and the conspiracy part is the rest of the unrelated shit that comes with it all.

What is your basis that the “lie” isnt the truth and that the “truth” isnt the lie?

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**Author:** ![kazzxtrismus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@kazzxtrismus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kazzxtrismus)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damm-nasa-they-gonna-get-us-killed/134950/43 "2007-12-13T21:22:50Z")

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freedom has never been free…not even once

comunism / Nazi’s / stalinism / socialism and the like have allways ried to start shit with freedom, oppress it etc…but they allways start the wars.

by oppressing their people and FORCING their people into the army etc no matter whether they are at war or not.

China, Russia, Vietnam, Iraq, Iran, German Nazis in WWII, North Korea have allways practiced this and never plan / planned to stop.

nuclear weapons or anything strong enough to blow up a gas or gas-giant which is missing the primary elements to convert them into a plasmatic self perpetuating substances as they burn (simultneous fusion / fission)  
while a “SUN” is so near by is Physically impossible.

the “explosion”, which couldn’t happen  
would expand the planet to a volumetricly inconsistant state tobe sble to hold iteself together under its own gravity,

the planet would “pop” and be sucked into the sun as the remants would only be unburned gasses.

mercury is liquid at room tempereature

the loss of any planet including PLUTO would cause a solar system wide catastrophy as the balance of the system we live in is perfect  
ratiotically  
the mass and gravitational pull of the sun when compared to the same from all the planets combined and calculating for their speeds and trajectories in ration form is a foolish looking # like this  
12486778376785849888:2225485858:1222688623:5353426:5467354:3466456

but when braught to its lowest common denominators…it looks like this  
1:2:3:4:5:6:7:8 = 32…sun = 32

this has been calculated to be veeeeerrrrrryyy close to absoulutely perfect…  
so as you can see dropping even 1 item means it dont = 32…sun is 32  
rest of planets float away or crach into eachother…

this mainly depends on order of sequence…so its a crap shoot as to which planet will move first and from their…its calculable…but who gives a shit because we’d all be dead in less than 24 hrs anyway.

the conspiracies we think we know ARE the distraction.

seeing if you can find 12 yellow tags in a circle of events does not make a conspiracy…its called open bar night…and some people have “chits”

a friend of my family for many years worked for CSIS for 25 years.  
he had basic stories of how they caught drug smugglers etc…nuthin super fancy.  
his wife was in “special information”…she never said shit!  
other than…"my laptop wont be available for a few years

research is best left to the people who know the subject…get 9 doctorates before you call “CONSPIRACY!!” about something as complicated as nasa and nuclear weaponry…

i like a good conspiracy but seriously keep it to the Erin brokovitch level until your second PHD or you are not qualified.

also if you were smart enough you wouldn’t need to theorise as you would discover and get the big GUBMENT job / raise and dissappear into oblivion as some mediocer “fill in the blank”…and no janitor does not apply

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**Author:** ![ismo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/278dde/32.png) [@ismo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ismo)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damm-nasa-they-gonna-get-us-killed/134950/44 "2007-12-13T21:35:41Z")

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> [@car railslide!!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/car-railslide/2677/2):
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> First of all, your source came from a site, that completely bases itself on conspiracy theories. I read pretty much the whole article and if you hadnt noticed, the article itself didnt refer to any offical sources either.
> 
> Those formulae mean absolutely nothing other than outlining what could be possible. Alot of their diagrams and calculations are also vague. There are no values attatched to the diagrams.
> 
> What is your basis that the “lie” isnt the truth and that the “truth” isnt the lie?

dude i totally agree with you, i did find a formula for their explaination, but i don’t know how to type it on here it has all the weird symbols, i think you’d be able to understand it, i’ll try to copy it on here but its on a vid.lol

> [@WTB:Oakley Juliet Sunglasses](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-oakley-juliet-sunglasses/2617/4):
>
> freedom has never been free…not even once
> 
> comunism / Nazi’s / stalinism / socialism and the like have allways ried to start shit with freedom, oppress it etc…but they allways start the wars.
> 
> by oppressing their people and FORCING their people into the army etc no matter whether they are at war or not.
> 
> China, Russia, Vietnam, Iraq, Iran, German Nazis in WWII, North Korea have allways practiced this and never plan / planned to stop.
> 
> nuclear weapons or anything strong enough to blow up a gas or gas-giant which is missing the primary elements to convert them into a plasmatic self perpetuating substances as they burn (simultneous fusion / fission)  
> while a “SUN” is so near by is Physically impossible.
> 
> the “explosion”, which couldn’t happen  
> would expand the planet to a volumetricly inconsistant state tobe sble to hold iteself together under its own gravity,
> 
> the planet would “pop” and be sucked into the sun as the remants would only be unburned gasses.
> 
> mercury is liquid at room tempereature
> 
> the loss of any planet including PLUTO would cause a solar system wide catastrophy as the balance of the system we live in is perfect  
> ratiotically  
> the mass and gravitational pull of the sun when compared to the same from all the planets combined and calculating for their speeds and trajectories in ration form is a foolish looking # like this  
> 12486778376785849888:2225485858:1222688623:5353426:5467354:3466456
> 
> but when braught to its lowest common denominators…it looks like this  
> 1:2:3:4:5:6:7:8 = 32…sun = 32
> 
> this has been calculated to be veeeeerrrrrryyy close to absoulutely perfect…  
> so as you can see dropping even 1 item means it dont = 32…sun is 32  
> rest of planets float away or crach into eachother…
> 
> this mainly depends on order of sequence…so its a crap shoot as to which planet will move first and from their…its calculable…but who gives a shit because we’d all be dead in less than 24 hrs anyway.
> 
> the conspiracies we think we know ARE the distraction.
> 
> seeing if you can find 12 yellow tags in a circle of events does not make a conspiracy…its called open bar night…and some people have “chits”
> 
> a friend of my family for many years worked for CSIS for 25 years.  
> he had basic stories of how they caught drug smugglers etc…nuthin super fancy.  
> his wife was in “special information”…she never said shit!  
> other than…"my laptop wont be available for a few years
> 
> research is best left to the people who know the subject…get 9 doctorates before you call “CONSPIRACY!!” about something as complicated as nasa and nuclear weaponry…
> 
> i like a good conspiracy but seriously keep it to the Erin brokovitch level until your second PHD or you are not qualified.
> 
> also if you were smart enough you wouldn’t need to theorise as you would discover and get the big GUBMENT job / raise and dissappear into oblivion as some mediocer “fill in the blank”…and no janitor does not apply

dude i agree with you too, what pisses me off when i herd about this, and what got me was, that most people are saying its not possible, and even if it was, it is impossible,lol being a guy who is set on thinking always that anything is possible, it gets to me that if these morons know its not possible why the fuk are they still going to try it by crashing the cassini into Jupiter, being positive and thinking anything possible is good as long as the after effects don’t hurt others.

i wish their plan fails and the cassini goes off track, but then i hope it dosen’t bite us in the ass 50 years from now when an alien civilization gets pissed that it crashed on their planet, and they come kick our asses.

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**Author:** ![ismo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/278dde/32.png) [@ismo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ismo)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damm-nasa-they-gonna-get-us-killed/134950/45 "2007-12-13T21:46:10Z")

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Cal-Soy, by any chance did you post up a video on youtube about how the lucifer project will not work?..lol

the way the video is made almost sounds like you on here, for real dude, no joke.

if it is let me know im interested.

thanks dude.

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**Author:** ![Cal-SoY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/91b2a8/32.png) [@Cal-SoY](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cal-SoY)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damm-nasa-they-gonna-get-us-killed/134950/46 "2007-12-13T23:29:47Z")

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> [@WTB:Oakley Juliet Sunglasses](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-oakley-juliet-sunglasses/2617/4):
>
> nuclear weapons or anything strong enough to blow up a gas or gas-giant which is missing the primary elements to convert them into a plasmatic self perpetuating substances as they burn (simultneous fusion / fission)  
> while a “SUN” is so near by is Physically impossible.

Any release of extreme quantity of energy could cause a reaction. Primarily because it is initiating a reaction between already present reactants within the object it originated from. The reason why a larger reaction (fusion/fission) will react is because the closed system reaction will take upon the elements on saturn primarily helium and hydrogen which is available in large quantities.

> [@WTB:Oakley Juliet Sunglasses](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-oakley-juliet-sunglasses/2617/4):
>
> the “explosion”, which couldn’t happen  
> would expand the planet to a volumetricly inconsistant state tobe sble to hold iteself together under its own gravity,
> 
> the planet would “pop” and be sucked into the sun as the remants would only be unburned gasses.
> 
> mercury is liquid at room tempereature

Agreed

> [@WTB:Oakley Juliet Sunglasses](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-oakley-juliet-sunglasses/2617/4):
>
> the loss of any planet including PLUTO would cause a solar system wide catastrophy as the balance of the system we live in is perfect  
> ratiotically  
> the mass and gravitational pull of the sun when compared to the same from all the planets combined and calculating for their speeds and trajectories in ration form is a foolish looking # like this  
> 12486778376785849888:2225485858:1222688623:5353426:5467354:3466456
> 
> but when braught to its lowest common denominators…it looks like this  
> 1:2:3:4:5:6:7:8 = 32…sun = 32
> 
> this has been calculated to be veeeeerrrrrryyy close to absoulutely perfect…  
> so as you can see dropping even 1 item means it dont = 32…sun is 32  
> rest of planets float away or crach into eachother…

Though i didnt know that, it is some simple that makes perfect sense.

Knew you’d want to get in on this.

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**Author:** ![Zredlady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/f19dbf/32.png) [@Zredlady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zredlady)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damm-nasa-they-gonna-get-us-killed/134950/47 "2007-12-13T23:48:03Z")

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my gosh you guys are such nerds 😉 hehe

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**Author:** ![AkumaS13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac8455/32.png) [@AkumaS13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AkumaS13)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 4:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damm-nasa-they-gonna-get-us-killed/134950/48 "2007-12-14T04:45:40Z")

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i just wasted 5 mins of my life reading through all of that -\_-

i dont feel very convinced at all and i dont think anythin ismo says will even reach that far. the site he provided was purely based on conspiracy theories so the first thing that comes to mind is tabloids. if your truth is based on that site and its main argument is based off of conspiracy theories then any argument you have to prove me wrong will just make me laugh.

sorry dude, nothin against you but im more of a realist and unless its been proven true to me first hand then i wont even bother researching it

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**Author:** ![pcproa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@pcproa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pcproa)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 5:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damm-nasa-they-gonna-get-us-killed/134950/49 "2007-12-14T05:15:45Z")

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> [@Stupid Troopers](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stupid-troopers/2673/9):
>
> i just wasted 5 mins of my life reading through all of that -\_-

Willl, you combat the wasted time by reading this at work :R  
I really don’t want to get into this one now. How about you… B13 Bully…Woops :S

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**Author:** ![duckJAI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/duckjai/32/5553_2.png) [@duckJAI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/duckJAI)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 5:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damm-nasa-they-gonna-get-us-killed/134950/50 "2007-12-14T05:24:29Z")

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if this really did make sense i’m sure there would be a lot more theories floating around on websites and it would be the biggest talk of the town, not just on TNC

after seeing that zeigiest watever movie, i’m almost 90% convinced that 9/11 was staged.

it added more proof ontop of the video called “loose change”

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damm-nasa-they-gonna-get-us-killed/134950/51 "2007-12-14T08:55:33Z")

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i remember telling people about this a long time ago but just in case anyone missed it. [http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com](http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com)

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**Author:** ![Zredlady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/f19dbf/32.png) [@Zredlady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zredlady)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damm-nasa-they-gonna-get-us-killed/134950/52 "2007-12-14T09:51:27Z")

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> [@assass1n"](#):
>
> i remember telling people about this a long time ago but just in case anyone missed it. [http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com](http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com)

i posted that link up not long ago in the amero thread

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**Author:** ![ismo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/278dde/32.png) [@ismo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ismo)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damm-nasa-they-gonna-get-us-killed/134950/53 "2007-12-14T12:15:26Z")

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> [@Stupid Troopers](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stupid-troopers/2673/9):
>
> i just wasted 5 mins of my life reading through all of that -\_-
> 
> i dont feel very convinced at all and i dont think anythin ismo says will even reach that far. the site he provided was purely based on conspiracy theories so the first thing that comes to mind is tabloids. if your truth is based on that site and its main argument is based off of conspiracy theories then any argument you have to prove me wrong will just make me laugh.
> 
> sorry dude, nothin against you but im more of a realist and unless its been proven true to me first hand then i wont even bother researching it

like i said before dude, the site i showed was just a website from the web, because some people wanted some sort of visible evidence, i’m not here to be popular or anything i herd this from my cousin so it was word of mouth to me. And the website was JUST to give you an idea what i was talking about, because i didn’t understand half the shit my cousin was talking about when she went technical.

> [@Stupid Troopers](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stupid-troopers/2673/10):
>
> Willl, you combat the wasted time by reading this at work :R  
> I really don’t want to get into this one now. How about you… B13 Bully…Woops :S

pcpora

lol. i don’t know what you mean by the last sentance, but if you are thinking im “b13bully” lol, you’re jokes.

> [@Finally picked a costume.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/finally-picked-a-costume/2680/2):
>
> i posted that link up not long ago in the amero thread

Yes, and thatnks i still remember that vid as one of the most factual.hehe

PS: Duckjai\< i think, yes,dude you’re right this kinda stuff won’t be so popular on TNC, maby people have no interest in reality on here.lol

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**Author:** ![Cal-SoY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/91b2a8/32.png) [@Cal-SoY](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cal-SoY)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damm-nasa-they-gonna-get-us-killed/134950/54 "2007-12-14T15:17:46Z")

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Samson, you liek the zeitgeist i put up! man that movie had me hooked through exam times. it was so crazy, the fdereal reserve one was the craziest.

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**Author:** ![ismo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/278dde/32.png) [@ismo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ismo)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damm-nasa-they-gonna-get-us-killed/134950/55 "2007-12-14T23:16:54Z")

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Cal-Soy, dude I don’t understand this shit, lol wtf is the winter solstice thing about 2012, my brain is getting hammered, so much shit going on.

some are now saying the 2012 shit was supposed to be a winter solstice, some where saying it’s the end on the Mayan calendar so apparently were dead. lol then some were saying the planet X nibiru aligns on that day so we still die because it sling shots pass earth too fast, then some motha f, says that all that shit is whack, we are missing 4 years of history, and all the history we know about man kind was bullshit, and that the Mayan calendar 2012 is supposed to be 2007, so we basically have what one week to see wtf happens.

I like a little zest in my freak fast but all this mofo conspiracies with all their proof is pissing me off now, I need your calculated opinion ASAP, dude.

because apparently we are supposed to have somthing like 25cm to 30cm snow tomorrow, and im wondering could this be it the bigining of the winter solstice???

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**Author:** ![Cal-SoY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/91b2a8/32.png) [@Cal-SoY](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cal-SoY)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damm-nasa-they-gonna-get-us-killed/134950/56 "2007-12-15T00:36:04Z")

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A solstice is an event that happens twice a year. its when the equator of the earth reaches the farthest point from the sun on its orbit. Depending on which hemisphere we live, the winter solstice could be either December 22ndish or June 22ndish.

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**Author:** ![ismo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/278dde/32.png) [@ismo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ismo)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damm-nasa-they-gonna-get-us-killed/134950/57 "2007-12-15T21:41:52Z")

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> [@hola](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hola/2681/5):
>
> A solstice is an event that happens twice a year. its when the equator of the earth reaches the farthest point from the sun on its orbit. Depending on which hemisphere we live, the winter solstice could be either December 22ndish or June 22ndish.

oh k, thanks for the info, but then why would a winter solstice be a threat to us if it happens twice a year, could they be talking about a severe solstice?

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damm-nasa-they-gonna-get-us-killed/134950/58 "2007-12-15T22:00:21Z")

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ya cal i loved the zeitgeist, it just wows you.

i had to leave my house 6hrs b4 my exam so i could study without watching the whole damn movie.

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**Author:** ![jed240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a4c791/32.png) [@jed240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jed240)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2007, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damm-nasa-they-gonna-get-us-killed/134950/59 "2007-12-16T00:15:03Z")

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Highly possible, even though it sounds like another conspiracy theory. it took appollo 3 days to reach moon over 3 decades ago, technology in all other fields has progressed exponentially so why not NASA. The skyline GTRs of the 70s made 160hp, GTRs of the 90s were rated at 280hp (probable 320hp) and the new GTR is rated at 480hp. The newer nukes are way more powerful & use much less space than the ones dropped in Japan. Look how electric cars have progressed from golf karts to insight/prius to the Tesla roadster (0-62mph in 4.5s or so)

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**Author:** ![Cal-SoY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/91b2a8/32.png) [@Cal-SoY](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cal-SoY)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2007, 12:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damm-nasa-they-gonna-get-us-killed/134950/60 "2007-12-16T00:48:37Z")

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> [@Finally picked a costume.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/finally-picked-a-costume/2680/6):
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> oh k, thanks for the info, but then why would a winter solstice be a threat to us if it happens twice a year, could they be talking about a severe solstice?

A Solstice is an event so you cant have a severe event. I’m confused as you are by how they mean a winter solstice is dangerous.

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