# Damn West Seneca Scammers in the news... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [July 17, 2013, 5:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798 "2013-07-17T05:11:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 5:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/1 "2013-07-17T05:11:28Z")
[http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/local/odometer-rolled-back-on-car-for-sale](http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/local/odometer-rolled-back-on-car-for-sale) Cliffs, guy sells car on craigslist with 200k miles, next day finds same car back up for sale with 79k miles. Channel 4 goes undercover. :tspry: ---
**Author:** ![turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_ls1_ss/32/7303_2.png) [@turbo\_ls1\_ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbo_ls1_ss)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/2 "2013-07-17T05:22:27Z")
Might as well start a drama thread… ---
**Author:** ![1sik\_bmw](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1sik_bmw/32/7341_2.png) [@1sik\_bmw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1sik_bmw)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 5:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/3 "2013-07-17T05:25:01Z")
I saw this the day it was posted originally and the day after when the guy swapped the speedo and painted the rims! 2 or 3 people on craigslist called him out on it ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/4 "2013-07-17T05:47:42Z")
JnJ odometer rollback special? ---------- Post added at 08:47 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:41 AM ---------- > [@turbo ls1 ss](#): > > Might as well start a drama thread… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![nitroinsane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d26b3c/32.png) [@nitroinsane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitroinsane)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/5 "2013-07-17T05:55:40Z")
This guy has no legal liability. In nys after 10 years the odomoter is exempt from recording. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/6 "2013-07-17T06:11:31Z")
> [@nitroinsane](#): > > This guy has no legal liability. In nys after 10 years the odomoter is exempt from recording. Federal Law trumps state law making it illegal under the federal odometer act. [http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/49C327.txt](http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/49C327.txt) ---
**Author:** ![nitroinsane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d26b3c/32.png) [@nitroinsane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitroinsane)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 6:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/7 "2013-07-17T06:20:06Z")
However the mileage on the vehicle has not been recognized by the state in ten years. So he could easily say. " I bought the car this way I had no idea" the kid probably never registered the car. ---
**Author:** ![Kramer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/97f17d/32.png) [@Kramer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Kramer)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/8 "2013-07-17T06:30:06Z")
I wonder how many people have been scammed before the days of digital speedos and car fax ---
**Author:** ![BREETIME](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/breetime/32/5214_2.png) [@BREETIME](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BREETIME)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/9 "2013-07-17T06:30:39Z")
West seneca strikes again. ---
**Author:** ![nitroinsane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d26b3c/32.png) [@nitroinsane](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nitroinsane)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/10 "2013-07-17T06:37:48Z")
> [@thunderbunnycrisis](#): > > I wonder how many people have been scammed before the days of digital speedos and car fax What does it matter with digital speedos? Go to the junkyard or ebay and find one with less miles. ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/11 "2013-07-17T06:58:33Z")
> [@nitroinsane](#): > > What does it matter with digital speedos? Go to the junkyard or ebay and find one with less miles. This. Years ago I had a grand am that had cluster issues. When I replaced it the car magically had 50K less on it. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/12 "2013-07-17T07:05:43Z")
> [@nitroinsane](#): > > However the mileage on the vehicle has not been recognized by the state in ten years. So he could easily say. " I bought the car this way I had no idea" the kid probably never registered the car. Kind of hard to claim ignorance when the previous owner is there saying, “yep, that’s the guy I sold it to, when I sold it the odometer had over 200k and here’s my ad that says it had over 200k when I sold it”. If the previous owner is pissed enough to call channel 4 to investigate I’m willing to be he’d testify if charges get filed. Plus carfax is showing odometer fraud so it’s been reported officially at least once in the past with less than 79k. I really hope he does get charged. Fucking scammers. ---
**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/13 "2013-07-17T07:39:30Z")
I hate scammers…but I sort of do know that on 2000-2005 grand ams that may have been a lease at the time…if you pulled the fuse for the cluster…the odometer didnt work anymore… ---
**Author:** ![GV1390](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gv1390/32/5432_2.png) [@GV1390](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GV1390)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/14 "2013-07-17T07:46:05Z")
![http://www.wfuv.org/sites/default/files/imagecache/fuveleven_node/homepage/photos/ferris%20ferrari.jpg](http://www.wfuv.org/sites/default/files/imagecache/fuveleven_node/homepage/photos/ferris%20ferrari.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![BREETIME](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/breetime/32/5214_2.png) [@BREETIME](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BREETIME)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/15 "2013-07-17T08:13:32Z")
" you made me make a phony phone call to me Rooney!" ---
**Author:** ![TORQDSS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/torqdss/32/5125_2.png) [@TORQDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TORQDSS)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/16 "2013-07-17T08:23:17Z")
I am not surprised at all. I appraise cars all day every day and people try to pull this crap all the time. The “selling for a friend” bullshit is because he was trying to jump titles and hand over a title to the buyer with the previous owners info on it. That saves him reg/tax/dmv fees. ---
**Author:** ![dirtye30](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dirtye30/32/7333_2.png) [@dirtye30](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dirtye30)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/17 "2013-07-17T08:23:44Z")
This kid is a total fuck stain. I hope he gets charged I’m sick of seeing his ass around town Parkin lot pimpin and trying to be thugin ---
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/18 "2013-07-17T08:28:59Z")
> [@TORQDSS](#): > > I am not surprised at all. I appraise cars all day every day and people try to pull this crap all the time. The “selling for a friend” bullshit is because he was trying to jump titles and hand over a title to the buyer with the previous owners info on it. That saves him reg/tax/dmv fees. I used to get this all the time when I sold RV’s. People would come in with a title from a deceased relative or friend who they got it from and try to trade it in. They get so pissed to find out they had to go to the DMV, pay their taxes and wait for a new title to come in the mail. ---
**Author:** ![llink78](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/llink78/32/8037_2.png) [@llink78](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/llink78)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/19 "2013-07-17T08:39:59Z")
This the guy with the e46 with fake M3 badges? ---
**Author:** ![1sik\_bmw](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1sik_bmw/32/7341_2.png) [@1sik\_bmw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1sik_bmw)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 8:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/20 "2013-07-17T08:44:24Z")
> [@tpgsr](#): > > This. Years ago I had a grand am that had cluster issues. When I replaced it the car magically had 50K less on it. Works with some cars, but others it stores the mileage somewhere in the computer, and even if you replace the dash with a lower or higher mileage cluster it will still have the original miles on it. I want to say the older caravans did this [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798.md?page=2)