# Damn West Seneca Scammers in the news... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [July 17, 2013, 5:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798 "2013-07-17T05:11:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![BREETIME](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/breetime/32/5214_2.png) [@BREETIME](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BREETIME)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/21 "2013-07-17T09:04:03Z")
What does this choch drive? ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/22 "2013-07-17T09:23:54Z")
What a scumbag. In for FB photos. I heard he took it down. I also heard he had some good supporting evidence on his FB showing these changes made. ---
**Author:** ![BOBBYGRV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/23 "2013-07-17T09:30:23Z")
Looks like this is his car: ![https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1070002_1378601505696254_1712752550_n.jpg](https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1070002_1378601505696254_1712752550_n.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/24 "2013-07-17T09:43:10Z")
In to see who is getting banned from NYspeed for this now. Car like that would make me believe he’d be on here. ---
**Author:** ![bracketracer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bracketracer/32/15592_2.png) [@bracketracer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bracketracer)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/25 "2013-07-17T09:53:38Z")
hmmmmm ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/26 "2013-07-17T10:37:55Z")
> [@tpgsr](#): > > This. Years ago I had a grand am that had cluster issues. When I replaced it the car magically had 50K less on it. Two words: Intent, Conspire. (See JayS’s link to 49 U.S.C. § 327) Although you didn’t follow the law in your case either, whoever modified or replaced the odometer in this story did so with intent to defraud (since it went right back up for sale) possibly with multiple parties since according to the DOJ stats say these are rarely one-off cases. ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/27 "2013-07-17T10:43:54Z")
> [@dirtye30](#): > > Parkin lot pimpin This is a thing? ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/28 "2013-07-17T10:45:24Z")
> [@Onyx Z32](#): > > Two words: Intent, Conspire. (See JayS’s link to 49 U.S.C. § 327) > > Although you didn’t follow the law in your case either, whoever modified or replaced the odometer in this story did so with intent to defraud (since it went right back up for sale) possibly with multiple parties since according to the DOJ stats say these are rarely one-off cases. Problem in his case is almost every state requires an odometer disclosure statement be signed at the time of sale. Knowing that the odometer is wrong puts you in violation the minute you sign. With all the data out there between carfax and other similar services you’re better off just disclosing the odometer issue. > **[Odometer Disclosure Statements for all States | DMV.ORG](https://www.dmv.org/odometer-disclosure-statement.php)** > > Get an odometer disclosure statement when changing vehicle ownership in your state. Title transfers require the owner to provide an accurate odometer reading. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/29 "2013-07-17T10:49:57Z")
… Are you referring to tpgsr or the guy in the video when you say “he?” Just clarifying. ---
**Author:** ![BREETIME](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/breetime/32/5214_2.png) [@BREETIME](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BREETIME)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/30 "2013-07-17T10:52:52Z")
Yup. He’s gotta be a member with those wheels. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/31 "2013-07-17T11:00:28Z")
> [@Onyx Z32](#): > > … Are you referring to tpgsr or the guy in the video when you say “he?” Just clarifying. tpgsr. He’s doesn’t have intent to defraud in simply replacing a broken cluster, but when he sells the car if he signs that statement that the odometer is correct and he has no knowledge of it ever being altered that’s going to put him in violation. Chances of being prosecuted for such a thing? Probably almost zero. You’d probably have to sell it to a US attorney then have something go majorly wrong with it and piss him off. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Quattro\_Krant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ac91a4/32.png) [@Quattro\_Krant](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quattro_Krant)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/32 "2013-07-17T12:03:07Z")
Who gives a fuck, it’s a Camry. 200,000, 500,000, or 79,000 they run like a champ. Fuck Channel 4 for actually covering a shit story as trivial as this. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/33 "2013-07-17T12:21:45Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > tpgsr Well using tpgsr as an example, he (or whoever installed it) is mandated under the law to: > Sec. 32704. Service, repair, and replacement > -STATUTE- > (a) Adjusting Mileage. - A person may service, repair, or replace > an odometer of a motor vehicle if the mileage registered by the > odometer remains the same as before the service, repair, or > replacement. If the mileage cannot remain the same - > (1) the person shall adjust the odometer to read zero; and > (2) the owner of the vehicle or agent of the owner shall attach > a written notice to the left door frame of the vehicle specifying > the mileage before the service, repair, or replacement and the > date of the service, repair, or replacement. So even before he sold it he would have had to abide by this statute. In a perfect world of course. > [@JayS](#): > > tpgsr …Chances of being prosecuted for such a thing? Probably almost zero. Exactly, but tpgsr’s case isn’t what they’d pursue anyway. They’re looking for volume and multiple counts / violations. > [@Quattro Krant](#): > > Who gives a fuck, it’s a Camry. 200,000, 500,000, or 79,000 they run like a champ. Fuck Channel 4 for actually covering a shit story as trivial as this. See my point above the quote. I doubt the story would have run if there wasn’t more than one potential person effected. Looks like the guy has been selling a few cars out of his driveway. The news report might alert others who may have purchased cars from him in the past. ---
**Author:** ![SOLITUDE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@SOLITUDE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SOLITUDE)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/34 "2013-07-17T12:34:41Z")
So a Customer came into my work about 3 monthes ago and this scumbag drilled 2 holes in the trunk to run power wire for a system…well he just so happens to hit the gas tank… not once but twice. Idk this kid has had no brains… he used to hotwire cars in potter road auto tech all the time. I have seen him drift across intercetions in rush hour traffic and nearly hitting pedestrians. He deserves every last bit of punishment and im sure theres alot more that we dont know. he just got out of jail for stealing a radio out of my friends car and started smashing it in the street… Like WTF:tspry: poof be gone ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/35 "2013-07-17T12:44:59Z")
> [@Quattro Krant](#): > > Who gives a fuck, it’s a Camry. 200,000, 500,000, or 79,000 they run like a champ. Fuck Channel 4 for actually covering a shit story as trivial as this. Another post that inspires confidence in buying a car from your establishment. ---
**Author:** ![Quattro\_Krant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ac91a4/32.png) [@Quattro\_Krant](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quattro_Krant)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/36 "2013-07-17T12:56:07Z")
> [@SOLITUDE](#): > > he just got out of jail for stealing a radio out of my friends car and started smashing it in the street… Like WTF:tspry: poof be gone Who gets sent to jail for stealing a radio? Was he out on parole or something? ---------- Post added at 03:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:45 PM ---------- > [@JayS](#): > > Another post that inspires confidence in buying a car from your establishment. What I said did come out wrong. I was trying to say that with what’s going on in Egypt and other more important issues globally, fuck channel 4 for covering something as trivial as a scumbag like this. That said, I hope this asshole gets run over by a bus as now when i sell a legit 50k mile car that is perfect, I’m going to have to hear people reference this story:madfawk::madfawk::madfawk: When people tell me the miles seem too low, I tell them I jack the car up and put a brick over the gas pedal for a few months in reverse to take off miles:fail: ---
**Author:** ![robftw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6bbea6/32.png) [@robftw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/robftw)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/37 "2013-07-17T13:03:42Z")
Hey internet superheros. Why don’t we all just report him for odometer rollbacks, I’m always down to ruin some scumbags life ---
**Author:** ![SOLITUDE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@SOLITUDE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SOLITUDE)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/38 "2013-07-17T13:32:16Z")
> [@Quattro Krant](#): > > Who gets sent to jail for stealing a radio? Was he out on parole or something? > > ---------- Post added at 03:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:45 PM ---------- He demolished the car in the process. ---
**Author:** ![honda4life](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/honda4life/32/5300_2.png) [@honda4life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/honda4life)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/39 "2013-07-17T14:30:19Z")
Wow, in for fb and other cars he sold… ---
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798/40 "2013-07-17T17:55:25Z")
LOL I can’t believe someone would go through this much trouble for $600 [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/damn-west-seneca-scammers-in-the-news/231798.md?page=3)