# Dear AIG: I quit....

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-aig-i-quit/65082
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [March 25, 2009, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-aig-i-quit/65082 "2009-03-25T12:15:45Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2009, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-aig-i-quit/65082/61 "2009-03-26T06:53:59Z")

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Don’t blame me I voted for Ron Paul.🙂 Please don’t group me with neo-cons.

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### Author: ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2009, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-aig-i-quit/65082/62 "2009-03-26T06:54:42Z")

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> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#):
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> Don’t blame me I voted for Ron Paul.🙂

Yeah who did you vote for in 2000 and 2004?

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### Author: ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2009, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-aig-i-quit/65082/63 "2009-03-26T06:59:01Z")

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> [@StrokedZ28](#):
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> There is your fucking legacy and in a couple of years, thats what I will be teaching in gov’t class about the first decade of the 21st century.

Sad isn’t it? A group of fucking goat herders managed to hijack a couple of planes and create some carnage and we lost our fucking minds.

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### Author: ![Eazy716](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eazy716/32/7443_2.png) [@Eazy716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eazy716)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2009, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-aig-i-quit/65082/64 "2009-03-26T07:04:00Z")

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> [@StrokedZ28](#):
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> I know you are but what am I. 😛 You are nothing more than a neo-con facist, pissed off at the world that your party had everything and lost everything. You never truly admit that when conservatives were in power they failed miserably.
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> The hypocrasy coming from conservatives these days is pathetic:
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> Now you guys are worried about deficit spending?  
> Now you guys are worried about one party dominating gov’t?  
> Now you say its patriotic to question the Presidents policies?
> 
> For 8 years, conservatives spent like fat cats, dominated nearly every branch of the gov’t and called anyone who question Bush on the war as being un-American.
> 
> All your side was able to do was:
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> 1. mistakenly invade another country
> 2. deregulate business
> 3. cut funding for science
> 4. get involved in a personal family matter (Schiavo)
> 5. destroy our ability to respond to natural disasters (Katrina)
> 6. fail to have a plan for said war
> 7. setup a torture facility
> 8. preach homophobia
> 9. Have one scandal after another
> 10. destroy our image in the world
> 11. set mandates but no funding for schools
> 12. alienate anyone who dissagreed with you
> 13. bring the religious nut jobs one step closer in telling the rest of us what to do
> 14. help out only the wealthy and not the middle class
> 15. completely divide the country
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> There is your fucking legacy and in a couple of years, thats what I will be teaching in gov’t class about the first decade of the 21st century.

Perhaps this is the problem? It’s not about Dem vs Republican(or at least it shouldn’t be). It’s about right vs. wrong. Both administrations were wrong on many accounts IMO.

But it’s certainly easy to point one way or the other.

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### Author: ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2009, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-aig-i-quit/65082/65 "2009-03-26T07:04:50Z")

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> [@StrokedZ28](#):
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> Yeah who did you vote for in 2000 and 2004?

Not Gore and not Kerry.

Your signature is HILARIOUS. Obama wouldn’t know liberty if it smashed into his face. Seriously it shows how star struck you are by Obama.

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### Author: ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2009, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-aig-i-quit/65082/66 "2009-03-26T07:16:19Z")

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> [@Eazy716](#):
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> Perhaps this is the problem? It’s not about Dem vs Republican(or at least it shouldn’t be). It’s about right vs. wrong. Both administrations were wrong on many accounts IMO.
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> But it’s certainly easy to point one way or the other.

This is what I have learned about my own views, I am not right or left even though Stoogedz28 and others wants to label me like that.

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### Author: ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2009, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-aig-i-quit/65082/67 "2009-03-26T07:25:29Z")

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> [@Eazy716](#):
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> Perhaps this is the problem? It’s not about Dem vs Republican(or at least it shouldn’t be). It’s about right vs. wrong. Both administrations were wrong on many accounts IMO.
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> But it’s certainly easy to point one way or the other.

Both?

Don’t get me wrong, a politician is a politician with few exceptions. But no administration or congress can say that they had as much of an epic fail then the past one.

Our invasion of Iraq makes them top the list.

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### Author: ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2009, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-aig-i-quit/65082/68 "2009-03-26T07:28:06Z")

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> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#):
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> This is what I have learned about my own views, I am not right or left even though Stoogedz28 and others wants to label me like that.

If you are not a righty then please name me a few liberal points that you have. Other than you love for Ron Paul, who I have said should represent all republicans. You have not once shown a bit of centrism.

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### Author: ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2009, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-aig-i-quit/65082/69 "2009-03-26T07:36:17Z")

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:LOL: @ the poor people not understanding capitalism and why people make more than $8/hr.

“overpaid” :lol:

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### Author: ![Eazy716](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/eazy716/32/7443_2.png) [@Eazy716](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Eazy716)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2009, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-aig-i-quit/65082/70 "2009-03-26T07:39:01Z")

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> [@StrokedZ28](#):
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> Our invasion of Iraq makes them top the list.

As will the invasion of Socialism.

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### Author: ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2009, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-aig-i-quit/65082/71 "2009-03-26T07:41:49Z")

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> [@StrokedZ28](#):
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> If you are not a righty then please name me a few liberal points that you have. Other than you love for Ron Paul, who I have said should represent all republicans. You have not once shown a bit of centrism.

Ummm, did you see the chart? The red dot is me.

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### Author: ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2009, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-aig-i-quit/65082/72 "2009-03-26T07:53:47Z")

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I find it unfortunate that the United States unbeknown to me is a teeter-totter. The general aggression shown toward people standing up for what they believe in is most unfortunate.

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### Author: ![dubbin91](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@dubbin91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dubbin91)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2009, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-aig-i-quit/65082/73 "2009-03-26T08:04:18Z")

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[quote=StrokedZ28;1321212

1. destroy our ability to respond to natural disasters (Katrina)  
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um…sorry to disagree here. First those idiots where told that a hurricane was going to hit, and did nothing but sit on there fat lazy asses while the smart ones moved the hell out of the area…can’t feel bad for them. Secondly, the state has to declare a state of emergency and ask for help…don’t just blame the whole organization, wasn’t completely there fault.

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### Author: ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2009, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-aig-i-quit/65082/74 "2009-03-26T08:50:45Z")

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> [@dubbin91](#):
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> um…sorry to disagree here. First those idiots where told that a hurricane was going to hit, and did nothing but sit on there fat lazy asses while the smart ones moved the hell out of the area…can’t feel bad for them. Secondly, the state has to declare a state of emergency and ask for help…don’t just blame the whole organization, wasn’t completely there fault.

I take it then you agree with the rest of my points? I can live with that.

This is a discussion for another thread. But I agree with some of your points but I still don’t like the fact that Bush appointed the horse judge as the head of FEMA.

Again this is for another thread.

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### Author: ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2009, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-aig-i-quit/65082/75 "2009-03-26T08:53:16Z")

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> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#):
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> Ummm, did you see the chart? The red dot is me.

My bad I didn’t see the dot, I thought it was a general chart with you claiming to be in the center.

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### Author: ![dubbin91](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@dubbin91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dubbin91)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2009, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-aig-i-quit/65082/76 "2009-03-26T08:57:06Z")

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> [@StrokedZ28](#):
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> I take it then you agree with the rest of my points? I can live with that.
> 
> This is a discussion for another thread. But I agree with some of your points but I still don’t like the fact that Bush appointed the horse judge as the head of FEMA.
> 
> Again this is for another thread.

Not really, parts of them yes but not all…but that is a different thread.

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### Author: ![Tevenor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@Tevenor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tevenor)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2009, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-aig-i-quit/65082/77 "2009-03-26T09:01:51Z")

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Nothing like chasing away the best and brightest from the source of the worse economic flop most of us will ever see but demonizing and criminalizing their work when they had NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FAILURE.

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### Author: ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2009, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-aig-i-quit/65082/78 "2009-03-26T09:12:07Z")

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If this guy is one of the best and the brightest then why was he working only for the promise of a bonus at a failed company that had been taken over by the government? Me thinks his story is a bit of a crock of shit and he was just another person with logic clouded by greed.

I agree that the talented individuals working to fix the clusterfuck we are in should be rewarded generously for taking on such a task. I just don’t buy everything that article/letter was trying to feed me.

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### Author: ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2009, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-aig-i-quit/65082/79 "2009-03-26T09:29:17Z")

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Yeah, I get little tired of hearing how these guys are the best and brightest. The other thing is when people say, “If they don’t get a bonus they will quit and get a job somewhere else.” Orly? I hear Walmart and McDonalds are doing well right now, goodluck with your search fellas.

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### Author: ![Tevenor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@Tevenor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tevenor)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2009, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-aig-i-quit/65082/80 "2009-03-26T09:41:46Z")

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Don’t get me wrong. There are lots of greys here and lots of opinions and few facts, but the point is in any capitalist economy, penalizing monetarily workers doesn’t exactly incent them to do much of anything.

In this case, do I feel sorry for the guy? Not really. He spent how many years raking in an inflated salary, regardless if he was involved with the securities that caused the issues. But going overboard on the reaction like Cuomo and other politicians have to “name and shame” them is just ridiculous. Passing legislation JUST to get that money back is retarded. How about instead of closing the barn door after the horses have escaped you do the the due diligance and have government auditors keep track instead of always being reactive.

It’s the sweeping brush strokes that are going to hamper the recovery. Saying “all Executives are greedy incompetent and over paid” is like saying “all McDonald’s workers are undereducated, underprivileged, and have no career aspirations”. While both are certainly true of some of those people, there are many who are the exact opposite of the stereotype now being encouraged.

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