# Dear Red States; **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 30, 2008, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-red-states/57312 "2008-10-30T06:51:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-red-states/57312/61 "2008-10-30T13:45:53Z")
> [@TORQDSS](#): > > Last I checked the word “fair” was being thrown around when talking about all the poor people in this country so why not the wealthy? x2 exactly… I’m nowhere NEAR making over 50K a year. But eventually I do plan to get myself to a higher level where I’d like to be making 200K a year, and IMO, half of it shouldn’t be going to the government or other people who are content making 15K a year. It sounds cold, but fuck 'em. If you want FAIR for everyone, a flat tax across the board is what’s needed edit: IMO, taxing people for being well off is no different than giving someone a job because of their skin color ---
**Author:** ![TORQDSS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/torqdss/32/5125_2.png) [@TORQDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TORQDSS)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-red-states/57312/62 "2008-10-30T13:49:31Z")
> [@Dr.Stevil](#): > > x2 > > exactly… I’m nowhere NEAR making over 50K a year. But eventually I do plan to get myself to a higher level where I’d like to be making 200K a year, and IMO, half of it shouldn’t be going to the government or other people who are content making 15K a year. > > It sounds cold, but fuck 'em. If you want FAIR for everyone, a flat tax across the board is what’s needed > > edit: IMO, taxing people for being well off is no different than giving someone a job because of their skin color :bigclap: ---
**Author:** ![ILC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilc/32/5337_2.png) [@ILC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILC)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-red-states/57312/63 "2008-10-30T13:49:45Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > But the thing is, if that guy who got the million from his parents decides to sit on his ass and do nothing, he’s an “investor.” He also likely has a comfortable life. If the poor person decides to, they’re a drain on society, called lazy, and live pretty shittily. > > The average CEO pay is 431 times the average worker at their company’s pay. Do you honestly believe they EARNED 431 times the money that their subordinates did? > > If the minimum wage climbed as fast as the income of the top 5% of america did since 1990, it would currently be over $30 an hour. The “redistribution of wealth” in this country that the rich are so paranoid of is actually what’s making them so much richer than everyone else. Min wage shouldn’t be as high as $30 an hour. Its Minimum wage, no skill, no training, its bullshit work. Yes a CEO should be paid 431 times its average worker. They make the decisions that keep the company afloat. If they don’t make the right decisions, Enron, Financial Crisis people lose lots of money. They have A LOT of responsibility in the position that they are in. The person that just gets the Million happens. he/she would be smart to just drop it into a CD and live off 50K a year. This will always happen, It will never stop, I see it as an exception. ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-red-states/57312/64 "2008-10-30T13:53:01Z")
> [@TORQDSS](#): > > so why is it that the top 5% of the country pays 60% of the tax revenue and 40% of the country doesn’t even pay tax? Is that fair to them? Last I checked the word “fair” was being thrown around when talking about all the poor people in this country so why not the wealthy? > > please explain that to me dozr… > > EDIT: btw, what loopholes are there because I’d love it if someone showed me why it’s ok that I should give my money to a government that doesn’t know wtf it’s doing. Ugh… I dealt with this before, read; [http://nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59218](http://nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59218) ---
**Author:** ![Shockwave179](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shockwave179/32/7496_2.png) [@Shockwave179](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shockwave179)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-red-states/57312/65 "2008-10-30T14:18:05Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > Many poor people bust their asses and make \<30k a year. College graduates fresh out of school bust theirs and make 30 to 50k. All a person has to do if they inherit one million dollars, which is not even that much money any more, is drop it in a 5% CD, with no risk involved, and they earn $50k a year to do absolutely nothing, without ever touching the principle. > > How is that fair? That’s too bad there shouldn’t be anything you or anyone can do about it. Life isn’t fair. However you’re complaining about people being given large amounts of money through inheritance. Isn’t taking that money from someone and redistributing it to poor people that also don’t deserve it literally the same concept. > [@Joe](#): > > The average CEO pay is 431 times the average worker at their company’s pay. Do you honestly believe they EARNED 431 times the money that their subordinates did? Most everyone I know that’s in a corporate upper management level position works their fucking ass off. You have no clue what you’re talking about if you state otherwise. Most people attain those positions because they are good at what they do and are workaholics. Unlike a good majority of the people that never get promoted or aren’t ambitious enough. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dear-red-states/57312.md?page=3)