# Decisions, decisions... (Opinions needed ITT) **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [December 17, 2009, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/decisions-decisions-opinions-needed-itt/249151 "2009-12-17T22:01:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 32
**Author:** ![JClark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jclark/32/6309_2.png) [@JClark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JClark)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/decisions-decisions-opinions-needed-itt/249151/32 "2009-12-18T08:29:49Z")
> [@ordering delivery vehicle for the pizzeria and have Ordered toady \*\*UPDATE\*\* 4/9/07](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ordering-delivery-vehicle-for-the-pizzeria-and-have-ordered-toady-update-4-9-07/27234/33): > > You forget to realize my good man that homosexuality ran rampant in the days of Socrates and Plato. In fact Socrates wrote of his sexual exploration of the male body but that it was nothing more than enthatuation with themale physique and not anything a man could feel for a woman. Ancient Chinese emperors were even found to have young boyd they would use for certain sexual gratification in the Ming Dynasty. So the current western culture has not redefined or chancged anything I humbly disagree. Homosexuality was customary if not tradition in the times of every philosopher mentioned thus far, however Socrates’s views are as archaic as the very period in which he lived. Homosexuality in past ages was, just as you described, a curious exploration of the male form, often times with young boys. Homosexuality has been redefined in our time to include passionate love and even long lasting monogamous relationships. Surely these new features of homosexual relations have recategorized their love in relation to Socrates’s Five Forms and in doing so made them obsolete. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/decisions-decisions-opinions-needed-itt/249151)._