# democracy at work... 2/3rds?  really?

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/democracy-at-work-2-3rds-really/264969/33 "2012-09-15T05:22:41Z")

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> [@Oasis24-7's bike was just stolen](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oasis24-7s-bike-was-just-stolen/50759/15):
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> who said we live in a secular nation? It says in god we trust on our money.

It wasn’t always like that…

> Aspirations for the motto arose surrounding the turmoil and heightened religious sentiment that existed during the Civil War. The Reverend M. R. Watkinson, as part of a campaign initiated by eleven northern Protestant Christian denominations in a letter dated November 13, 1861, petitioned the Treasury Department to add a statement recognising “Almighty God in some form in our coins.”[7] At least part of the motivation was to declare that God was on the Union side of the Civil War.[8] According to Brian Burrell, the actual wording of the motto was inspired by a Union Civil War unit’s company motto.[9][10]

> Treasury Secretary Salmon P. Chase acted on this proposal and directed the then-Philadelphia Director of the Mint, James Pollock, to begin drawing up possible designs that would include the religious phrase. Chase chose his favorite designs and presented a proposal to Congress for the new designs in late 1863.[11]

Source: truth.

It wasn’t always on the pledge of elegance either.

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