# Democrats = draft? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 19, 2006, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/democrats-draft/20394 "2006-11-19T11:00:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2006, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/democrats-draft/20394/61 "2006-11-21T16:07:12Z")
^ :wtf: ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2006, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/democrats-draft/20394/62 "2006-11-21T16:11:09Z")
> [@BikerFry](#): > > I hate politics. It makes a game out of real life. “I’m on the deomcrats team! If we make the right moves we can advance to the next level!” The whole concept of career politicians is fucked, but since it’s a game you need players who are good at the game, not representatives who serve the interests of the public. Democrats vs Republicans? How about the people for the people? Even in the real George W’s farewell address he warned against a bicameral system yet here we are in a red vs blue fucking board game. Modern democracy is a mockery of what it was conceived to be. Tag your it! Blue team captured the flag! I do agree, this choose a side situation is destroying the principals of what it was founded on in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![n20junkie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/n20junkie/32/7396_2.png) [@n20junkie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n20junkie)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2006, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/democrats-draft/20394/63 "2006-11-21T17:36:22Z")
> [@SI01](#): > > I’d like you to link me to information proving any of your points. Because as of now, I’m writing you off as a blathering idiot grasping for straws. Blathering idiot thats actually in the military, and has lived with the guys. Guess what, the military isn’t a bunch of buch haters, most like the guy. read up, you might learn something [http://www.lewrockwell.com/ips/lobe43.html](http://www.lewrockwell.com/ips/lobe43.html) ---
**Author:** ![91CRXSI](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91crxsi/32/7247_2.png) [@91CRXSI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91CRXSI)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2006, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/democrats-draft/20394/64 "2006-11-21T18:53:43Z")
> [@n20junkie](#): > > Never mind every officer has a 4 year degree, and probably a masters on top of it, thats not totally true. You only need 60 credits to become an officer and under some circumstances they can get a waiver for that too ---
**Author:** ![SI01](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/si01/32/7187_2.png) [@SI01](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SI01)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2006, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/democrats-draft/20394/65 "2006-11-21T21:11:04Z")
> [@n20junkie](#): > > Blathering idiot thats actually in the military, and has lived with the guys. Guess what, the military isn’t a bunch of buch haters, most like the guy. > > read up, you might learn something [http://www.lewrockwell.com/ips/lobe43.html](http://www.lewrockwell.com/ips/lobe43.html) If you ‘read up’ you’d probably notice that at no point did I say anything one way or the other about people in the military approving/not approving of “buch”. Please address what I asked you to. ---
**Author:** ![n20junkie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/n20junkie/32/7396_2.png) [@n20junkie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n20junkie)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 4:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/democrats-draft/20394/66 "2006-11-22T04:24:37Z")
> [@91CRXSI](#): > > thats not totally true. You only need 60 credits to become an officer and under some circumstances they can get a waiver for that too 60 credits is just to get out in the program, in "some instances, then your only promoted based on you completeing your degree in so many years. The airforcce doesn’t do this, neither does the navy, pretty sure its just an army thing. “Please address what I asked you to.” Who the FUCK do you think your are, i’m not some fuckin 18 year old kid, and I answer to no one but those that earn it. Mabe when you grow up you will realize that calling people “blathering idiots” gets you no where. ---
**Author:** ![rskrause](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rskrause/32/7367_2.png) [@rskrause](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rskrause)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/democrats-draft/20394/67 "2006-11-22T06:13:56Z")
The amount of contempt many Democrats have for military people and institutions is staggering in its’ callousness and ingratitude. To be honest, universal service is not necessarily such a bad idea, though a full scale draft is not a good idea. That might actually make the military into the bunch of ignorant morons Kerry thinks they are. ---
**Author:** ![SI01](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/si01/32/7187_2.png) [@SI01](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SI01)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/democrats-draft/20394/68 "2006-11-22T20:20:55Z")
> [@n20junkie](#): > > 60 credits is just to get out in the program, in "some instances, then your only promoted based on you completeing your degree in so many years. The airforcce doesn’t do this, neither does the navy, pretty sure its just an army thing. > > “Please address what I asked you to.” Who the FUCK do you think your are, i’m not some fuckin 18 year old kid, and I answer to no one but those that earn it. Mabe when you grow up you will realize that calling people “blathering idiots” gets you no where. And regardless of how old you are, maybe when you grow up you’ll realize that making wild claims then failing miserably to back them up gets YOU nowhere. So again, where did your information come from? ---
**Author:** ![SI01](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/si01/32/7187_2.png) [@SI01](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SI01)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/democrats-draft/20394/69 "2006-11-22T20:22:33Z")
> [@rskrause](#): > > The amount of contempt many Democrats have for military people and institutions is staggering in its’ callousness and ingratitude. To be honest, universal service is not necessarily such a bad idea, though a full scale draft is not a good idea. That might actually make the military into the bunch of ignorant morons Kerry thinks they are. I don’t mean to come off as having disrespect for anyone in the military. I really don’t. ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/democrats-draft/20394/70 "2006-11-22T22:22:51Z")
While I don’t support making people Join the military, I do however think there should be some sort of mandate that everyone must do a certain amount of volunteer work after HS. Be it being a firefighter, emt, military, working a soup kitchen, reading to children etc…whatever the case may be, EVRYBODY should do at least something to help out a little and make this country a better place. It would not be too much to ask. Even a few hours a week for a few weeks. People need to learn respect and courtesy for their fellow man. This would be a decent start. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 1:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/democrats-draft/20394/71 "2006-11-23T01:32:36Z")
its not volunteer work if its forced. the good that all those orgs do would go by the wayside if people were forced into it. its like when i had to do community service in high school, i ended up driving old people around on an activity shuttle. did i give a shit? hell no, but i was forced to do it. there were people that were actually considerate and useful doing what i did, but i was just there to get my hours in and GTFO. respect and courtesy cant be forced on you, you have to exude them voluntarily. ---
**Author:** ![Bucker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bucker/32/7379_2.png) [@Bucker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bucker)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/democrats-draft/20394/72 "2006-11-23T08:56:31Z")
> [@91CRXSI](#): > > doesnt matter to me either BECAUSE IM NOT A PUSSY AND ALREADY JOINED!! 😉 Baghdad by May ---
**Author:** ![VANDIT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vandit/32/4977_2.png) [@VANDIT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/VANDIT)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/democrats-draft/20394/73 "2006-11-23T09:13:16Z")
> [@91CRXSI](#): > > doesnt matter to me either BECAUSE IM NOT A PUSSY AND ALREADY JOINED!! Thank you for helping my selfish ass stay free, or rediculasly taxed… on or the two! anyways, dual citizenships, anyone else have one??? you cant be drafted if you do!!! besides, i dont want to die 2000 miles away from my family at the hands of a towelhead. g/l to you, you are much more brave than i am, but the cowered lives most of the time, soo whos smarter. ohhh, and most of the time, people who die over in iraq/afgan, die from IED’s and crazy mofo’s/accidents. soo you wont even know it :tdn: ---
**Author:** ![VANDIT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vandit/32/4977_2.png) [@VANDIT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/VANDIT)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/democrats-draft/20394/74 "2006-11-23T09:16:18Z")
> [@Bigairskier1580](#): > > Yes, because you know, all of Canada speaks French and they all are eskimos and live in Igloos and it snows 24/7 the second you cross the border into anywhere in Canada, and there are also no Canadian soldiers serving in the military anywhere overseas involved in conflicts. > > /sarcasm. > > You sir, are a douchebag. > > Suchhhh truth. you sir are my favorite, and not just because your from ea! :tup: ---
**Author:** ![Bucker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bucker/32/7379_2.png) [@Bucker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bucker)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/democrats-draft/20394/75 "2006-11-23T09:17:02Z")
> [@VANDIT](#): > > Thank you for helping my selfish ass stay free, or rediculasly taxed… on or the two! > > anyways, dual citizenships, anyone else have one??? you cant be drafted if you do!!! > > besides, i dont want to die 2000 miles away from my family at the hands of a towelhead. > > g/l to you, you are much more brave than i am, but the cowered lives most of the time, soo whos smarter. > > ohhh, and most of the time, people who die over in iraq/afgan, die from IED’s and crazy mofo’s/accidents. soo you wont even know it :tdn: I am better than you. I’m going to outright say that, physically and I can go further, mentally I can take more. You are afraid of the TINY potential of a draft, while plently of true Americans are joining daily. I think its disgusting how people are already trying to find loopholes to avoid potential military service. ---
**Author:** ![VANDIT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vandit/32/4977_2.png) [@VANDIT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/VANDIT)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/democrats-draft/20394/76 "2006-11-23T09:19:29Z")
one more comment to end my thread whoring, in a few years from now when the democrats have restablishted full control once again, this bs conflict over oil will be dissolved and yes even you gun hungry go get um military men will be out of work… ---
**Author:** ![SI01](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/si01/32/7187_2.png) [@SI01](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SI01)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/democrats-draft/20394/77 "2006-11-23T09:39:25Z")
> [@98 Red Ex](#): > > I am better than you. I’m going to outright say that, physically and I can go further, mentally I can take more. You are afraid of the TINY potential of a draft, while plently of true Americans are joining daily. > I think its disgusting how people are already trying to find loopholes to avoid potential military service. Wow, imagine that not everyone shares your desire to go be a hero in the desert. I’m glad that somebody wants to do it, but the fact that you are, doesn’t inherently make you “better” than anyone else. I find the ethnocentric attitude of some of those in the armed forces disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![d3x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8491ac/32.png) [@d3x](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/d3x)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/democrats-draft/20394/78 "2006-11-23T09:57:31Z")
Bad Religion - Generator - Heaven Is Falling As I walk beneath the valley I shall fear no evil for thanks to King George and his rainbow cabinet today murder is legal **God I know that it’s wrong** **to kill my brother for what he hasn’t done** and as the planes blacken the sky it sounds like heaven is falling it sounds like heaven is falling you promised me a new day a’dawning I’ve seen a thousand points of light like so many points of hatred, shame and horror **God I want to be a man** **but I don’t want to die with a rifle in my hand** and as the planes blacken the sky it sounds like heaven is falling it sounds like heaven is falling you promised me a new day a’dawning well nothing here looks new to me but a score of mothers’ sons caught 'tween the devil and the deep blue sea The whole point of a voluntary military is to avoid unjust conflicts. i personally will never allow my government to ship me to the other side of the globe to kill someone who hasn’t done anything to me, my family, my friends, or my fellow citezens. and i _would_ die for that belief. ---
**Author:** ![VANDIT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vandit/32/4977_2.png) [@VANDIT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/VANDIT)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/democrats-draft/20394/79 "2006-11-23T10:47:39Z")
> [@d3x](#): > > Bad Religion - Generator - Heaven Is Falling > > As I walk beneath the valley > I shall fear no evil > for thanks to King George and his rainbow cabinet > today murder is legal > **God I know that it’s wrong** > **to kill my brother for what he hasn’t done** > and as the planes blacken the sky > it sounds like heaven is falling > it sounds like heaven is falling > you promised me a new day a’dawning > I’ve seen a thousand points of light > like so many points of hatred, shame and horror > **God I want to be a man** > **but I don’t want to die with a rifle in my hand** > and as the planes blacken the sky > it sounds like heaven is falling > it sounds like heaven is falling > you promised me a new day a’dawning > well nothing here looks new to me > but a score of mothers’ sons > caught 'tween the devil and the deep blue sea > > The whole point of a voluntary military is to avoid unjust conflicts. i personally will never allow my government to ship me to the other side of the globe to kill someone who hasn’t done anything to me, my family, my friends, or my fellow citezens. and i _would_ die for that belief. i completely understand… this is what every republican should listen to; Otophobia “blind leading blind” blind leading blind, god they can’t find resplendent deity left you behind slave to god or your choice forget that you once had a mind and a voice i can’t believe a word that i hear religious fanatics are just f-in weird idea of god is one that i fear close my eyes to make it disappear easy and painless to be christ’s [email=“wh#@e”]wh#@e like lambs to slaughter what you have in store proofs in the pastures but you need more when is the last time religion didn’t start a war? you look to your lord you praise and submit but i don’t want your god cause yours is full of shit ---
**Author:** ![VANDIT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vandit/32/4977_2.png) [@VANDIT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/VANDIT)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/democrats-draft/20394/80 "2006-11-23T10:49:27Z")
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